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S/O Feeding 12+ Months...

When did/will you introduce cow's milks, honey, peanut butter and things like raisins/craisins?

My mom has tried Libby on cow's milk, straight as well as mixed with some of mine and so far, it's a no-go. I am desperate for her to start taking cow's milk because I will be OOT for 5 days in one month and she won't take previously frozen BM so the plan is to leave as much as I can "fresh" in the fridge and the rest will be cow's milk. Any tips for getting her to take it?

Also, I know my friend's toddlers LOVE peanut butter and raisins, but I have no idea when they are to be introduced. I've read conflicting things online. We see the pedi on the 10th, but I thought I'd ask here too.

Re: S/O Feeding 12+ Months...

  • hmmm... I did not know there was special timing for raisins? I figured since she had already had grapes, she could have raisins?? they have no sugar added and are just dried grapes so I didn't see the problem.  she LOVES them and gobbles them up like candy :) they will calm her down whenever she is crying LOL which I need to remember so I can leave some in the diaper bag

    she had just a tiny bit of honey in a marinade I used for pork tenderloin about 2 wks ago and we are waiting until 15 months to introduce PB, nuts, shellfish, etc.  Pedi said it was ok normally at 12 months but since we have lots of food allergies in our families (me, my brother, MIL) she said it would be best to wait until 15 months.

    I introduced cow's milk when she was just over 13 months old.  I was going to do it cold turkey but then Brent said it would be best to transition her to it so her GI tract doesn't get upset.  So, I did like 10% cow's milk in the BM one day...then 25%/75% then 50/50, then 75/25, and then finally 100% cow's milk....so over the course of 5 days total.  I think she definitely prefers BM over cow's milk, as she doesn't drink very much while I am at work.  granted, since she has been on solids, she has been taking at most 8-9oz of BM per day (I am gone 10 hours).  with the cow's milk she is usually taking about 5 oz or so, sometimes even less.  when I am home with her she has been taking about 2-3 oz cow's milk in addition to nursing 4-5x/day....but in the last week she has been drinking closer to 5oz/day and yesterday she drank 7oz!!! so, I am not sure if she is just getting more used to it or what.

    as for suggestions on how to get Libby to take it, I would definitely mix in it w/your BM so you can slowly get her used to the different taste. maybe transition over a longer period of time than I did, and start with just 5% cow's milk and 95% BM for a few days first before going to 10%? you can also buy different brands of milk (get the small containers) and see if she prefers one brand over another. I distinctly remember as a kid that my brother and I would only drink milk from one grocery store chain and not the other so my mom always had to get milk from there, even if she was getting groceries somewhere else that week.  so, perhaps Libby would like one brand over another too?

    and, honestly, worst case scenario when you are gone for those 5 days she will either get so thirsty/hungry she will take the cow's milk....or she will only drink water while you are gone.  not ideal, but it's only 5 days and she will be just fine for that period of time.  she'll eventually get to drinking cow's milk, but I wouldn't stress too much about rushing her before your trip if she is not ready yet.

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  • We started cow's milk mixed with mine around 13 1/2 months. We mixed it half and half. She did best with it in a sippy with a straw! They say for ages 2+ but she was refusing all other sippy's so we gave it a try. A friend had mentioned that the straw was easier for BF babies because it was more of the same tongue motion... I'm not sure about that but I know that's what worked best for us. However I will say that once we transitioned, her milk intake did decrease. Our pedi said after one she really only needed 3 8 oz glasses of milk a day. She usually took (and still does) take 12-16 oz a day. 
     
    We introduced raisins when she was about 15 months, not like we were purposely waiting, I just never even thought about it until my SIL was feeding her daughter some. Bella LOVES raisins and other dried fruit. She has 11 teeth now and has no problem chewing them up.
     
    Ryan and I think we started giving her PB around 15 months but neither of us are sure. She LOVES PB and will eat it by the spoonful. We've even let her spoonfuls of it. We used to let her dip her apples into it but discovered that she loves dipping but doesn't eat what she's using to dip. So she'd eat the PB off of the apple then dip the apple again until the PB was gone and she'd never take a bite of the apple! Now we give her apples first then she can have PB after she eats the apple :)
     
    I think we waited until about 13-14 months to give her honey. We mix a tiny bit in her oatmeal (which she loves) and we've put it on her pancakes too. We've also put fruit in her oatmeal and she likes that.
     
    We do have allergies in my side of the family and we just introduce and give her the same new thing every day for 4 days to see if there's a reaction.  So the same idea applied, introduce one new food at a time. We haven't had any issues. We've even re-introduced cinnamon (she got a little rashy after we gave it once) without any problems since. 
  • I am pretty sure we will be doing goat milk rather than cow milk when the time comes in 2 weeks.  I will do 1:3, 1:1, then all.  He will keep his jars of goat milk at daycare to eat as he would have BM. Given DH's family's severe history of asthma I would really like to limit cow based dairy.  Most of the cheese has had to date has not been cow based (same with yogurt).  This was also based on some feedback from J's dr (I don't think I mentioned it but I switched him to an ND for primary care).  I can email you her food handout if you want.  I still don't follow it completely (it has PB on it for age 4!!), but it reminds me to branch out a little.

    I haven't given Jack honey, but figured he would have some by this summer when farmers markets are in full swing.  He has had all types of seafood, I was nervous at first but he happened to be at my grandparents' house a couple of months ago when my gramps came in with a fresh catch of crab and I didn't have the heart to refuse him.  From what I have read the early introduction hasn't shown to lead to an increase in allergy anymore so it's either you have it or you don't - and other than asthma on DH's side we don't have any history of food issues.  He had fish at about 7mo (I can remember that b/c that would be the typical salmon run here).  After crab went ok I let him have homemade clam chowder after we got some clams over new years eve.

    Peanuts, I am pretty sure Jack has had some in various Thai dishes that he picks off my plate.  I recently gave him fresh ground almond butter on toast and he loved it.  I figure I will not limit it anymore but won't go out of my way to offer peanut based stuff.  

    oh and raisins - Jack has had them.  He's iffy on chewing them up fully though.  They were not planning to give him any at daycare but I ok'd it and I know they cut them up.  They are already pretty small, so I'm not worried about him choking regardless... but whatever. 

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    I am pretty sure we will be doing goat milk rather than cow milk when the time comes in 2 weeks.  I will do 1:3, 1:1, then all.  He will keep his jars of goat milk at daycare to eat as he would have BM. Given DH's family's severe history of asthma I would really like to limit cow based dairy. 

    what's the link between cow based dairy and asthma? i've never heard of this before :) i'm intrigued! esp since MH has horrible allergy-related asthma

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    what's the link between cow based dairy and asthma? i've never heard of this before :) i'm intrigued! esp since MH has horrible allergy-related asthma

    Well, it's hard b/c the only places I have read or heard about this is naturopathic medical sources/people.  However, even my old ped had my (half) sister go dairy free when she had chronic allergy based sinus infections as a child.  So there was some link to this even 20 years ago.  I think it's easy to find resources that tout there is a link to a milk protein allergy and sinus/asthma/allergies.  The protein in goat milk is *sometimes* easier to digest which lends less allergies.  But to me it all a seems like a maybe/maybe not realm.  There is actually a medical journal article (I can only see the abstract of course) that finds no significant link, but also says there is a possibility that the findings are skewed b/c many asthmatic children already limit dairy so it's hard to find a study group that would present a full dairy/asthma study source.

    The ND was interested to see that J has never had a reaction to food but does have dry skin (especially along his shoulders, upper back, and upper arms) even given that I don't bathe him more than 2-3 times a week.  It was particularly dry and red the day he had his first exam and I have never really focused on it since our first ped (and now kind of our back up provider should he ever need an MD) said it wasn't a big deal.  Anyways, it was enough for her to be a little concerned.  (especially since DH is in with us sniffing up a storm with his usual sinus issues) but I get the feeling that she is hesitant to recommend cow milk in the quantity that most children drink it.  Goat milk has less folic acid and one of the Bs but that shouldn't be an issue since he will still be drinking lots of BM (and I guess the level is much closer to BM anyways - just not as much as cow milk)


  • Since he was on soy formula, our pedi suggested we start with yogurt, and since he didn't tolerate that, we skipped cow's milk and went straight to soy milk. 

    I mixed the formula and the milk at first, I think the first day we did 3/4 formula, 1/4 milk, then the next day I did  1/2 & 1/2, and we did that for about a week until we finished the formula off, lol.  Then we just did full bottles of milk. 

    Our pedi said to hold off on PB until 18 months, so we haven't introduced it yet. 

    The sweet & sour sauces have honey in them, and that's how we introduced that - with chicken nuggets.  He's been eating raisins since about 11 months - just put them on the tray and he gobbles them up!  I haven't tried craisins yet, but that might be another good one for him soon.  He mostly loves to feed himself by picking things up.  Not using utensils yet - but he will take a spoon/fork and a bowl (or empty yogurt cup) and pretend to "mix" - not sure if he knows what he's doing or if he just likes the sound, LOL.

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