xp: Would you let your child join.....

mrs.dovey · February 2011

the Boy Scouts *when older of course*, if you thought the leader was a horrible role model?

Clayton wanted to join so we went to the meeting. Turns out the leader is a mom *which I am fine with* but it was the mom who at a baseball game of 8-10 year olds was very outspokenly rude! For instance when a kid struck out, she screamed "See Ya!" She was even asked to leave the diamonds. We live in a small town and this is the only troop around, Soo would you?

soko987 · February 2011

I wouldn't let my son join the Boy Scouts, period, because of their views on homosexuality and not allowing the children of same-sex couples to join. I think that assy leader would just be the cherry on top of the whole "no way in Hell" sundae.

robinsokj · February 2011

soko987:
I wouldn't let my son join the Boy Scouts, period, because of their views on homosexuality and not allowing the children of same-sex couples to join. I think that assy leader would just be the cherry on top of the whole "no way in Hell" sundae.

Absolutely.

mrs.dovey · February 2011

You know, I hadn't heard about all of that until I was talking to my sister about the leader. *really should pay more attention to the news lol*

Clayton is an outdoors kind of kid and he heard about the camping trips so I think that is why he wants to join. We usually let him do anything he likes as in sports, clubs, ect.. But I think this time we are not going to let him do this.

curlychic · February 2011

soko987:
I wouldn't let my son join the Boy Scouts, period, because of their views on homosexuality and not allowing the children of same-sex couples to join. I think that assy leader would just be the cherry on top of the whole "no way in Hell" sundae.

I couldn't have said it better myself!

Shortycube · February 2011

robinsokj:
soko987:
I wouldn't let my son join the Boy Scouts, period, because of their views on homosexuality and not allowing the children of same-sex couples to join. I think that assy leader would just be the cherry on top of the whole "no way in Hell" sundae.
Absolutely.

This

Azrayla · February 2011

Shortycube:
robinsokj:
soko987:
I wouldn't let my son join the Boy Scouts, period, because of their views on homosexuality and not allowing the children of same-sex couples to join. I think that assy leader would just be the cherry on top of the whole "no way in Hell" sundae.
Absolutely.
This

Agreed.

Also with the girlscouts..I was in it for a couple days in elementary and the leader was one of my best friends mothers. She was a horrible person I later found out but she kicked me out because she thought I was a "Bad influence" and to this day her mother and father cant stand me and I honestly dont know what I could have done. To be honest, their daughter wasnt an angel (She still isnt but still a great friend).

I think they need to evaluate their leaders a little better before giving them such power.

IrishBrideND · February 2011

Shortycube:
robinsokj:

soko987:
I wouldn't let my son join the Boy Scouts, period, because of their views on homosexuality and not allowing the children of same-sex couples to join. I think that assy leader would just be the cherry on top of the whole "no way in Hell" sundae.

Absolutely.

This

Ditto. Although I would let DD join GS, especially with the recent overhauls of their program. Its pretty impressive now.

But I would not let her join a troop where the leader was a bad role model.

bakedlaurabean · February 2011

Probably not. DS will be in boy scouts, though. DH had a very positive experience growing up and there are a lot of goid skills taught. It's not like they are going to pass their views on hhomosexuality down to my son.

soko987 · February 2011

bakedlaurabean:
Probably not. DS will be in boy scouts, though. DH had a very positive experience growing up and there are a lot of goid skills taught. It's not like they are going to pass their views on hhomosexuality down to my son.

Well, if your son has a little friend who has two moms or two dads, and he can't join the Boy Scouts with your little guy, then yes - they will be passing down their views on homosexuality to your son.

DrinknDerive · February 2011

soko987:
I wouldn't let my son join the Boy Scouts, period, because of their views on homosexuality and not allowing the children of same-sex couples to join. I think that assy leader would just be the cherry on top of the whole "no way in Hell" sundae.

100% this.

bakedlaurabean · February 2011

soko987:
bakedlaurabean:
Probably not. DS will be in boy scouts, though. DH had a very positive experience growing up and there are a lot of goid skills taught. It's not like they are going to pass their views on hhomosexuality down to my son.

Well, if your son has a little friend who has two moms or two dads, and he can't join the Boy Scouts with your little guy, then yes - they will be passing down their views on homosexuality to your son.

I would just explain that we don't agree with that. I think there are so many benefits to scouting.

pandagirl15 · February 2011

soko987:
I wouldn't let my son join the Boy Scouts, period, because of their views on homosexuality and not allowing the children of same-sex couples to join. I think that assy leader would just be the cherry on top of the whole "no way in Hell" sundae.

This. The "loudspoken" mom actually sounds more like a very rude person, so that would also factor into my decision.

IrishBrideND · February 2011

I will admit I'm completely hypocritical with this. I am a Catholic and will raise DD as such (although she will 100% have the option to believe what she wants as she gets older) Our plan is to teach her that there are parts of the Church we don't agree with (like their stance on homosexuality)

Yet, I just can't do that with the boy scouts. I don't know why I view them differently but I do.

pandagirl15 · February 2011

IrishBrideND:
I will admit I'm completely hypocritical with this. I am a Catholic and will raise DD as such (although she will 100% have the option to believe what she wants as she gets older) Our plan is to teach her that there are parts of the Church we don't agree with (like their stance on homosexuality)

Yet, I just can't do that with the boy scouts. I don't know why I view them differently but I do.

I don't want to hijack the post, but I agree with you. Same with me. But I was always under the impression that the Catholic Church wasn't against homosexuality, but the sex outside of marriage aspect. Since it's "not ok" for heterosexual people, they can say it's "not ok" for homosexual people. I always looked at it as hiding behind wording and laws against same sex marriages, but I didn't think there was an official stance against homosexuality in general. There are many things, though, in the Catholic religion that I think we choose to take or leave at our discretion. Perhaps I will be struck by lightning for that some day! Wink

IrishBrideND · February 2011

pandagirl15:
IrishBrideND:

I will admit I'm completely hypocritical with this. I am a Catholic and will raise DD as such (although she will 100% have the option to believe what she wants as she gets older) Our plan is to teach her that there are parts of the Church we don't agree with (like their stance on homosexuality)

Yet, I just can't do that with the boy scouts. I don't know why I view them differently but I do.

I don't want to hijack the post, but I agree with you. Same with me. But I was always under the impression that the Catholic Church wasn't against homosexuality, but the sex outside of marriage aspect. Since it's "not ok" for heterosexual people, they can say it's "not ok" for homosexual people. I always looked at it as hiding behind wording and laws against same sex marriages, but I didn't think there was an official stance against homosexuality in general. There are many things, though, in the Catholic religion that I think we choose to take or leave at our discretion. Perhaps I will be struck by lightning for that some day!

The Church is definitely against same sex marriage.

lite-bright · February 2011

dup/posted too soon

lite-bright · February 2011

Soko nailed it. I don't buy their popcorn for the same reasons.

But beyond that, my kids would also not be joining any activity with a rude adult as a role model/leader. Acting like that isn't just something I don't want them to pick up -- when adults do that kind of stuff, it can really make children uncomfortable because most of them know it's wrong.

And I want my kids to be in activities where they feel safe, not where they're wondering what nasty thing their leader/coach/teacher will say if they mess up.

Although I'll add that I am in somewhat the same boat as Irish, in that my DH is Catholic, we attend a Catholic church and will raise our girls Catholic. I've looked into joining the church myself because I'd like to fully participate -- I'm Methodist, but went to a Catholic high school and am very familiar with the faith -- but I just can't bring myself to formally promise loyalty to the church when I will never, ever agree with some of their stances. And trust me, my girls will learn why, and be allowed to make their own choices as to whether to be confirmed/stay with the church.

Shell24 · February 2011

pandagirl15:
IrishBrideND:
I will admit I'm completely hypocritical with this. I am a Catholic and will raise DD as such (although she will 100% have the option to believe what she wants as she gets older) Our plan is to teach her that there are parts of the Church we don't agree with (like their stance on homosexuality)

Yet, I just can't do that with the boy scouts. I don't know why I view them differently but I do.
I don't want to hijack the post, but I agree with you. Same with me. But I was always under the impression that the Catholic Church wasn't against homosexuality, but the sex outside of marriage aspect. Since it's "not ok" for heterosexual people, they can say it's "not ok" for homosexual people. I always looked at it as hiding behind wording and laws against same sex marriages, but I didn't think there was an official stance against homosexuality in general. There are many things, though, in the Catholic religion that I think we choose to take or leave at our discretion. Perhaps I will be struck by lightning for that some day!

You're joking, right? Are you sure you're Catholic? If the church accepted homosexuality then they would allow them to get married. Irish: there are many progressive Catholic churches. The Worship Director at the church where my DD attends school is gay and no one has any issue with it.the Vatican may not change their stance but on a local level it's different.

kateoats · February 2011

soko987:
I wouldn't let my son join the Boy Scouts, period, because of their views on homosexuality and not allowing the children of same-sex couples to join. I think that assy leader would just be the cherry on top of the whole "no way in Hell" sundae.

Is this just the Boy Scouts? I am the child of a same sex couple(kinda, my parents divorced when I was 6 and then I was raised by my mom and her partner) and I was in girl scouts. That makes me mad if it's true.

IrishBrideND · February 2011

Shell24:
pandagirl15:
IrishBrideND:

I will admit I'm completely hypocritical with this. I am a Catholic and will raise DD as such (although she will 100% have the option to believe what she wants as she gets older) Our plan is to teach her that there are parts of the Church we don't agree with (like their stance on homosexuality)

Yet, I just can't do that with the boy scouts. I don't know why I view them differently but I do.

I don't want to hijack the post, but I agree with you. Same with me. But I was always under the impression that the Catholic Church wasn't against homosexuality, but the sex outside of marriage aspect. Since it's "not ok" for heterosexual people, they can say it's "not ok" for homosexual people. I always looked at it as hiding behind wording and laws against same sex marriages, but I didn't think there was an official stance against homosexuality in general. There are many things, though, in the Catholic religion that I think we choose to take or leave at our discretion. Perhaps I will be struck by lightning for that some day!

You're joking, right? Are you sure you're Catholic? If the church accepted homosexuality then they would allow them to get married. Irish: there are many progressive Catholic churches. The Worship Director at the church where my DD attends school is gay and no one has any issue with it.the Vatican may not change their stance but on a local level it's different.

Oh I know! I only attend liberal churches

epona3 · February 2011

soko987:
I wouldn't let my son join the Boy Scouts, period, because of their views on homosexuality and not allowing the children of same-sex couples to join. I think that assy leader would just be the cherry on top of the whole "no way in Hell" sundae.

this exactly. we are however very excited for her to join 4H, and are hoping to be leaders ourselves! 4H can be outdoorsy, too!

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