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OPINION - "Hot Saucing"?!?!? Video Link

I just saw this on "Parenting"...what do you think? I was disgusted, but it seems that some polled thought it was effective:

https://www.parenting.com/blogs/show-and-tell/lauren-parentingcom/hot-saucing-cruel-and-unusual-punishment?cid=fb

 

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Re: OPINION - "Hot Saucing"?!?!? Video Link

  • Not sure If I can bring myself to watch it. I am sure it has to do with using hot sauce as a punishment for mouthing off, or something. I am not a fan of "punishing" anyway. We try to correct behavior around here.. .I know I can say that now. But it works for our family right now.
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  • I just posted a different link to that to someone on FB for threatening to do that to her child.

    It's disgusting. I don't believe in inflicting harm on children to get them to behave. 


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  • This woman is on a POWER TRIP and has SERIOUS anger issues.  As a result of watching that, so do I.  I'd like to pour hot sauce in her EYES and then throw her straight into the icy ocean.  How's that for punishment?

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  • Oh, it made me SO angry....

    I found it hard to believe that people think it's okay!! I was just curious what you ladies thought or if you knew anyone who actually does this (since there is apparently an actual parenting book that condones this!)..

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  • hurting or causing pain is punishment and not discipline. Punishment generally doesn't work and is sometimes detrimental to the child's confidence and feeling of security. I could never ever condone doing that to a child. The punishment doesn't even fit the "crime."
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  • I havent'/ am not watching that -  The story itself was disturbing enough! 

    Yes, my mom washed my mouth out with soap (as one story commenter discussed) (eta: calmly and without trauma/ drama, it was more annoying than anything) --  but hot sauce??!!!  And what was with the cold shower?  I gather that the offense was lying, so how was the shower in any way related?  Oh, and fwiw - the soap thing was completely ineffective as a future deterrent, for me at least ;)

  • I can't watch it but know the premise and will say firmly that THOSE are the kids who grow up severly maladjusted and/or have issues. I don't care if your mom did it and you think you turned out fine....there are issues being created there...often so deep that we only scrape the surface of discovering them!
  • Thats just plain mean.  Who does that?  I have no problem with a little spanking but that is just WAY beyond a little punishment.  Thats torture.  

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  • I watched it and it made me cry.  I want to stick that bitches head in a bowl of hot sauce and then in a scalding hot shower.

    How on earth does that punishment fit the problem???  He got in trouble at school (presumably hours earlier) for fighting and something else that he can't remember and so the answer is hot sauce?  That makes NO SENSE!  Obviously he's going to lie about getting in trouble you stupid hoe bag because he knows if he tells you the truth instead of working throught the issue you make him eat hot sauce and take a cold shower!!!! 

    IMO it is awful and abusive parenting.


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  • Children are meant to be disciplined, of course, but they are still children and they still do things wrong. It seems like she thinks her actions will make him perfect, which he will never be.  He will never live up to her expectations.

    This poor boy, I am so sad for him (and the sister who is filming it!) there are SO MANY better ways to discipline a child and all of them should be done with love.  Parents should NEVER discipline in anger. If you aren't in control, you should have your child sit in their room until you are. No matter how long it takes.  You should always be in calm control when disciplining.

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  • Didn't watch or read the link.  But here's what I don't get about this -- it's essentially using food as punishment.  Or a food item.  Ok condiment.  Whatever.  Why isn't anyone concerned that this will cause eating aversion issues?  Also, I don't know what age this mom is "disciplining" but at 2 1/2 I was eating chili and DD already eats pretty hot curries, jambalaya and chicken salad with pretty liberal doses of tabasco.  So...clearly this wouldn't work on every child.  Eh, anyway.  I think it's mean.
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  • That was awful.  I just want to grab that little boy and hug him.  Sad
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    Also, I don't know what age this mom is "disciplining" but at 2 1/2 I was eating chili and DD already eats pretty hot curries, jambalaya and chicken salad with pretty liberal doses of tabasco.  So...clearly this wouldn't work on every child.  Eh, anyway.  I think it's mean.

    Cal likes some spice too, but this woman literally poured hot sauce into his mouth and made him hold it in there for several minutes.  And who knows what level of spiciness that particular hot sauce was.  Makes me cringe to think about.

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  • I think the word "dicipline" is a slippery slope. Its my opinion that our charge in life is GUIDE, TEACH, and compassionately DIRECT our children...

    I think Natalie Merchant says it well:

    "I'm tired of the excuses everybody uses, he's your kid, do as you see fit,
    but get this through that I don't approve of what you did to you own flesh and blood.
    .....
    I'm the only witness to your madness offer me some words to balance out what I see and what I hear.
    All these cold and rude things that you do I suppose you do because he belongs to you "
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    imageGypsyEsq:
    Also, I don't know what age this mom is "disciplining" but at 2 1/2 I was eating chili and DD already eats pretty hot curries, jambalaya and chicken salad with pretty liberal doses of tabasco.  So...clearly this wouldn't work on every child.  Eh, anyway.  I think it's mean.

    Cal likes some spice too, but this woman literally poured hot sauce into his mouth and made him hold it in there for several minutes.  And who knows what level of spiciness that particular hot sauce was.  Makes me cringe to think about.

    Ugh...cruel.  And so ridiculous. 

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  • I saw this being discussed on the Today show this morning.  So sad.  :(
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  • Guiding and teaching, encouraging and (re)directing are all parts of discipline IMO.

     

    But my question is WHY did she submit it to Dr. Phil? What was she hoping to gain?! 

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  • Will not watch.  But based on comments it sounds sadistic, sociopathic and sick.  And she can go eff herself.  Just because you CAN do something to someone who is not as strong as you and is in reality totally dependent on you doesn't mean you SHOULD.  Sick biiitch.  Sorry.  Child abuse hurts me, and makes me very angry. 

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    imageGypsyEsq:
    Also, I don't know what age this mom is "disciplining" but at 2 1/2 I was eating chili and DD already eats pretty hot curries, jambalaya and chicken salad with pretty liberal doses of tabasco.  So...clearly this wouldn't work on every child.  Eh, anyway.  I think it's mean.

    Cal likes some spice too, but this woman literally poured hot sauce into his mouth and made him hold it in there for several minutes.  And who knows what level of spiciness that particular hot sauce was.  Makes me cringe to think about.

    My kids love hot spicy food! Infact Preston can handle more things I can.

    This woman is INSANE, why would you do that to your child? THat is just wrong!

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