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I mean, honestly?! Kind of long - but I could use some opinions! (NBR)

My grandparents will be celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary the first weekend of April in Virginia. DH and I live in Kansas City, Missouri - 20 hours away from the location they plan to celebrate at. They're trying to get the entire family together to celebrate and have offered to foot the bill for hotel rooms for two nights. While we are grateful for the gesture, DH and I don't think traveling that far, with a child who will only be a little more than 6 weeks old (our EDD is 2/25), is a good idea.

I respectfully declined the invitation for the weekend and explained that DH and I would be looking at about a 25 hour drive by the time we factored in stops to breastfeed and that we didn't think it was fair to Charlotte to keep her strapped up in a car seat for that amount of time. This was the response I got:

You will never have an easier time traveling with a little one than this time.  Breast feeding helps make that a 'no brainer.'  No formula.  Stop and feed baby whenever you want to nurse.  Babies at first are used to being kind of 'folded up' and in the fetal posistion I think.   She will stay put in the infant seat.  If she starts to really cry in earnest, you stop and soothe her.  Babies at that age are usually good travelers.  It's when they are earlier, used to getting up and running around, bored without their toys, and so forth.  Charlotte won't have reached that stage/age yet. 
 

You have to be joking, right?! Who, in their right mind, would think that is a good idea? Or fair to the child?!

This was my reply:

We really appreciate the fact that you guys want us to be there, and would love to have the opportunity to see everyone it's just not going to work out. The drive, without stopping, is 20 hours. Once you factor in that a newborn needs to be fed every two to three hours for about twenty to thirty minutes (and considering the fact that we would be stopping to feed her) we'd be looking at more than an entire days worth of driving, if we drove non-stop. Even though infants are used to be compacted in small spaces, we also don't think it's fair to Charlotte to contain her in a car seat for that long.
 
Am I being unreasonable?! I kind of feel like it's being made to seem like I'm trying to get out of going when, really, I'm just looking out for the best interest of my future child. Thoughts?!
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Re: I mean, honestly?! Kind of long - but I could use some opinions! (NBR)

  • Wow. In NO WAY are you being unreasonable. If they want you there so badly, maybe they should foot the bill for plane tickets... it would be one thing if you were 5 hours away or something but even without a newborn child to worry about, I wouldn't drive that far.
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  • We traveled to my in-laws a week after Livy was born for my DH's grandfather's funeral.  It's only 3 hours away, but if I could go back...there's no way I'd do it again.  Livy hated the car seat and screamed non-stop.  The trip took us 6 1/2 hours because of stopping for her.  I was miserable, tired and sore.  Also, I was learning to bf (and still was at 6 wks!) and it was awkward. 

    Honestly, don't do it.  You are making the right choice for your family and it's rude that they aren't accepting of your choice.

  • You shouldn't have to explain your choice at all. At 6 weeks, your LO may not even be okay to travel by your pedi. You're making the best decision for your family- don't feel bad about it for a second.
  • First off, in no way are you being unreasonable. 

    Secondly - it's their wedding anniversary, why does the whole family HAVE to be there anyway?  

    Thirdly, I don't know a single person that thinks that traveling that far with a newborn is a good idea.

    I'd be so pissed I probably wouldn't have even responded because what they wrote is really kind of offensive ... Or I'd have written that to me it's a 'no brainer' that your kid simply won't travel for 20+ hours in the car.  Howgh. The end.

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  • In no way are you being unreasonable. I would be pissed off and probably not able to hold my tongue if they gave me that response.
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  • One thing is for sure: there will be no easier time to travel than with a baby in the first year. My DD has traveled to Europe 3 times. Why dont you fly there? A 6 week old is a little early since your body will also be still recovering. All the other things said about letting them cry etc is aehm stupid. you will take a LONG time. After breastfeeding, you will need to change the baby, there are blowups, it will take forever. But if you want to go flying might be your best bet.
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  • I'd go. We're doing a 6 hour car ride (which I know is a lot shorter of a drive) while I'm on maternity leave. I'll be nursing and pumping so I'll have some bottles in the car for in between pit stops feedings. My parents took me and my sister on a cross country trip when I wasn't a year old yet and they said it was one of the easiest trips.
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  • 20 hours is  a little much. If it was 10 or less I would say suck it up.  It really is easiest to travel with a newborn but I myself would go crazy trapped int he car for that long.

    Besides flying would someone be willing to foot the bill for extra hotels so you can split the ride into two shorter trips each (yes it will take more days this way but is more manageable car wise).

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  • I have a very similar situation but with a shorter car ride (15hours non stop) and an older baby (around 2.5 months) and I am generally thinking no.  I don't want to agree to go, then once LO is here realize that they don't like the car seat, which some babies don't!  Or that they need to be held, or that I am having issues with BFing and be stuck in the car for a solid day for it.  Plus you don't know how you will be feeling so soon after giving birth.  They are crazy to think its ok to pressure you to go.  I told DH that I wouldn't consider it until after the baby is born. 

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  • Well they are right in that its super easy to travel with them at that age, especially compared to later. But you are also 100% justified in not going.
  • If I knew that flying was an option I would go. However, my 'visits' taking LO to see family would be limited and I'd have tons of hand sanitizer on hand. Travelling with a newborn is one thing, travelling with a newborn knowing you're going to see tons of people who will want to hold the baby is another. I would be super hesitant to openly subject LO to whatever germs are out there.

    Does your family expect you to pass LO around to everyone, provided you decide on alternate transportation to go there? The travel wouldn't bother me so much as it would people who would no doubt expect me to hand over my baby for them hold, smooch on and cuddle with. That makes me nervous.

  • Yes, traveling with a baby is easier then a toddler or child but IMO 6 weeks old is way to young to be driving 20 hours. I also think 6 weeks is way to young to fly. They don't have all their shots yet and there are lots of germs on planes. Also, my pedi recommended not having my newborn in large crowds until after 8 weeks which is when they'll have all their major shots.

    My vote is to NOT go. I think it's a terrible idea.

     

  • We planned on an 8 hour car trip when DD was 8 weeks old.  It turned in to a 14 hour trip.  Never again. 

  •  You're not being unreasonable.  I wouldn't travel that far with a baby that young either.  Your baby might not come for a week or two after your due date and then you would have a 5 or even 4 week old.  Not to mention if you have a difficult delivery, you might still be recovering.

    Once they are 2+ months it is a really nice age to travel with though.  Maybe you can go visit your grandparents once she's older? 

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  • I also want to add that every time we traveled with our baby in the first year or year and a half, she ended up getting sick.  It was never anything serious, but she was also older than 6 weeks.  
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  • Geesh. I'm trying to decide whether we should still rent a cottage that's an hour away from our house. Baby will be 5 weeks old at the time. A 20 hour drive? HELL NO.

    I think you are being completely reasonable and your reply was well worded.  Don't stress. You're making the right decision :)

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  • There is no way that I would travel that far with a newborn!  YIKES... We were thinking of travelling 3 hours to Detroit when the baby is 2 months old, and I am nervous about that.

    How long would a flight be?  I am guessing close to 4 hours or so right?  I guess if you would really want to go, maybe look into that option.

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    Yes, traveling with a baby is easier then a toddler or child but IMO 6 weeks old is way to young to be driving 20 hours. I also think 6 weeks is way to young to fly. They don't have all their shots yet and there are lots of germs on planes. Also, my pedi recommended not having my newborn in large crowds until after 8 weeks which is when they'll have all their major shots.

    My vote is to NOT go. I think it's a terrible idea.

     

    They will have had ONE does of their major shots. That doesn't = immunity yet.

     

    We drove 10 hours with DD at 4 weeks and flew with her at 2 months (right before her shots).

    OP: I'm not suggeting you should do it. I don't think I would do a 20 hour car trip EVER, haha. I'm just responding to other comments.

  • You are not being unreasonable at all. 20 hours is a long way for them to expect you to come especially with your LO. I completely understand where you are coming from and as much as I would want to be with my family I would pass too. If they were closer it would be one thing but 20 hours. That is way too much!

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  • Flying would be preferable with a newborn. If they want you there that badly then tell them to split the plane ticket bill instead. Obviously they forgot about how hard it is to travel with a newborn and how exhausted the parents will be.
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  • It is definitely true that it's MUCH easier to travel when they are so young, but I would not want to make a 25+ hour drive 6 weeks postpartum.  I do not think you are being unreasonable at all.
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  • 20+ hours is way too long. Our family wants us to make a 10+ hour drive with LO when she is 5 months, and I'm not on board with driving that far.

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  • You are not being unreasonable.  You don't know if you will go early/late, or if there will be any complications that would mean that the LO shouldn't travel...let alone be around massive amounts of people who will probably not think twice about trying to hold LO while they are sick.  I'm used to 10-12 hour drives to see my grandparents, and plan to once LO is about 7 or 8 weeks old, but 20 hours is just out of the question.  That's a hard drive for two healthy adults, let alone one adult, one recovering from giving birth, and a newborn.  Don't feel bad about not going.  You've got to put the health and comfort of your family first.

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  • We took a 24 hour road trip (NY to MN) when Jack was 8 weeks old at Christmas 2008. It really was so easy...believe it or not. The next summer when he was 8 months old...not so easy, in fact kind of awful. We took lots of stretch breaks/bfing breaks/diaper breaks and stopped halfway for the night.
  • you are in no way being uinreasonable. I would not drive that far with a newborn. Granted that they ahve to sit in one spot for a long time for this to happen, but to be strapped to a seat in one position is not good for the body or their soft heads. Plus even if you do fly most pedis say not until after 8 wks when they have had the first round of shots and most airlines would rather not have a passenger on board that young unless medically necesary.
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  • imagerisysmama:
    It is definitely true that it's MUCH easier to travel when they are so young, but I would not want to make a 25+ hour drive 6 weeks postpartum.  I do not think you are being unreasonable at all.

    This, exactly.

    When DD was 3 months old, we took a trip that normal takes 8 hours. It took us 14 hours. And she was really well-behaved - no crying fits at all. We stopped every 2 hours for BF'ing - each stop took at least 30-45 minutes between nursing, changing her diaper, stretching my legs, rounding the rest of my family up (we traveled along the coast of Lake Michigan, so they at least had nice scenery to get out and enjoy!), and getting everyone buckled back in and on the way. Like, I had no idea how long each stop would actually take.

    It's tempting to go because at 6 weeks old, they are sleeping SO much of the time... but they are also completely unpredictable and there's no way to predict what the trip might be like.

    If it were under 10 hours, I'd think hard about it, but 20+ hours - no way.

    And whoever sent that letter (your mom? grandma?) is awful for sending you that response. She is not your child's mother and it is not her decision to make. Based on what little I know about her, I think you've done yourself a HUGE favor by taking a stand NOW. She seems like the type who would guilt/persuade/force you into things, and you're sending the right message by telling her that your family choices are not hers to make. Good for you!

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  • Flying would probably not be an option since we'd also have to rent a car, figure out a car seat, etc...etc...Plus, it's way too expensive. I'm really glad that you guys all share the same opinion about this! It's going to help me continue to stand my ground when they (which I'm sure they will) come back and tell me I'm somehow being selfish or terrible for not coming. They've (my grandmother in particular) got a history of using guilt to make people feel bad, which is really dysfunctional, and most of the time I just try to ignore it. On the same hand, I know this anniversary is important to them and meeting my LO is a big deal, too. But there will be other times....
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  • Wow. I'm really shocked by your grandparents response. That's kinda rude. You probably could blame it on your baby's doctor. Tell the pedi what your family has planned and that you have huge concerns. He/She might not even want you going anywhere that far with that many people at just 6 weeks old. Then they can't argue. Doctor's orders :)
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    Flying would probably not be an option since we'd also have to rent a car, figure out a car seat, etc...etc...Plus, it's way too expensive. I'm really glad that you guys all share the same opinion about this! It's going to help me continue to stand my ground when they (which I'm sure they will) come back and tell me I'm somehow being selfish or terrible for not coming. They've (my grandmother in particular) got a history of using guilt to make people feel bad, which is really dysfunctional, and most of the time I just try to ignore it. On the same hand, I know this anniversary is important to them and meeting my LO is a big deal, too. But there will be other times....

     

    I'm in total agreement with everyone else but coming from a different perspective. Forget the baby, I wouldn't drive 20 hours. DH & I did a 14 drive from MA to PEI 2 years ago. I did the first shift (10-12 hours) through the night since he had worked that day and I didn't. I was so exhausted, I didn't even care that we arrived.

     

    With a baby that age, you will be sleep-deprived to begin with. I don't know about you, but I don't sleep fantastic in a car to begin with. Add the # of stops & possibility of baby not being content (hating carseat, colicky) and that trip is guaranteed to be miserable.

     

    Tell them you'd love to visit when the baby is older and YOU decide it's a good time. Also, they will be able to spend more time with LO 1 on 1 (or whatever) since the entire family won't be there.

  • First of all, you are totally not being unreasonable.  And you really don't need to justify it to them if they push further- which, if they do- THEY are the ones being unreasonable.  Some posters have commented that (even tho 20+ hrs is way long) it's an "easy" time to travel with the baby that young.  Y'all never met my first child, apparently :)  I wouldn't go anywhere with her for over a YEAR because she was such a difficult baby.  She hardly slept- which meant I hardly slept- she screamed bloody murder in her carseat, for diaper changes, baths, etc.  It took a lot for me to gear up to go 45min away to my sister in law's house!  While I certainly hope you have a nice, easy, sleepy baby, there is a chance that you will not & for me, there is no way I would have ever considered this. Not even w/DD#2, who was my easy baby!
  • *if* I had an "easy" baby (no AR or other health problems), I'd consider making the trip, but never by car.  The only time I'm willing to sit in a car for 20+ hours is if we're moving to a different state, and even then, we're all cranky by the end of it.  I'd be willing to do a 4 hour flight if it was really important to ME to be there and LO was able to BF (and thus get the immune system boost), but even that's pushing it at 6 weeks.  
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  • Just tell them: No, it's not happening.  End of story.  You don't owe them an explanation.  It's obvious enough why you wouldn't want to come.  If anyone is being selfish it's them. 
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