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"Naturally occurring" multiples. LOL.

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On FB on of my friends is a delivery room nurse.  She posted that she was on call and that most likely it was because of multiples.  Someone replied that she had a fun job to see all the babies born etc.  She mentioned that a set of triplets were just born recently and that they were doing good.  One of her friends made this comment  "That's cool. Naturally occuring ones or were they fixed, not sure of the right word. Gotten by fertility drugs or something?"  She responded with "They were naturally occurring, which is really rare for triplets. I was surprised. I figured they would be in vitro but they weren't."

People (even nurses) are so clueless about multiples.   That is why I never flame for people calling them natural.  I do correct the term but I dont do it in a shame on you sort of way.  I do find the "or were they fixed" part a bit flame worthy but I try to remember that not everyone is familiar with multiples and its just lack of education about it and the proper terms.  

 

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  • Temp159135562506975Temp159135562506975 member

    were they FIXED? LOL  that's a new one.

    "naturally occuring" is actually appropriate --- they ARE naturally occuring, if they are spontaneous.... that is different than saying "natural" on it's own... b/c "natural" incinuates that they are "artificial" children, if concieved with IF assistance.  "Natrually occuring" is just fine, if you ask me... it's putting the description of "natural" on the word "occuring"... not on the child.

    I never knew what was appropriate before i had my own twins... I generally just didn't ask b/c I knew that asking at all was like asking "how's your vagina today?" to someone. :)

    spontaneous trips ARE rare - so I think it's OK for the nurse to be surprised by it, too. I know I am when i hear about them! :)

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    were they FIXED? LOL  that's a new one.

    "naturally occuring" is actually appropriate --- they ARE naturally occuring, if they are spontaneous.... that is different than saying "natural" on it's own... b/c "natural" incinuates that they are "artificial" children, if concieved with IF assistance.  "Natrually occuring" is just fine, if you ask me... it's putting the description of "natural" on the word "occuring"... not on the child.

    I agree.

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  • #6#6 member
    The naturally occurring part does make some sense but "gotten by fertility treatments" and "were they fixed" is just beyond rude and like I said before pure uneducated.   
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  • sandrarodzsandrarodz member
    I still dont know the correct terms lol But then again I'm not the type to get offended for stuff like that.

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  • bellasmom27bellasmom27
    Although the hospital I am delivering at is considered to be the best in Miami for multiples b/c of their level 3 NICU, I thought maybe my hospital was the only one with nurses that were freakin retarted! All the nurses I came across over there so far, even at my OB office, the staff says "was it natural or did you use drugs?" I also tell them "hey don't they educate you people on he difference, especially since you people come across mutliple pregnancies all the time?
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  • sarabrad79sarabrad79

    I've found that people just aren't really familiar with the term "spontaneous twins/triplets".  I've a had a few people ask, if ours are natural or if we used fertility treatments.  I usually answer with, "They are spontaneous twins."  Which then gets a weird look from the person asking.  I would however, think that nurses are familiar with the term "sponateous" . . . . .

     

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  • macchiattomacchiatto member

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    The naturally occurring part does make some sense but "gotten by fertility treatments" and "were they fixed" is just beyond rude and like I said before pure uneducated.   

    Oh yeah, definitely!

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  • devinjonesrndevinjonesrn member

    I've had one person ask me,"if they were natural" and I replied with something to the effect of, "Well, we used Clomid to help with fertility, but I have to tell you that the more PC way to ask would be, "Are they spontaneous twins?"" 

    I know I had no idea before I met you ladies what was PC and what was offensive...never thought about it before we conceived multiples ourselves, so I feel the need to kindly educate people when they don't know.

    I have yet to have the nerve to tell someone that it is actually a rude question...I just feel rude correcting them!  I also had to appologize to my girlfriend whose twins were delivered last fall for asking her if they had conceived using clomid. (which is none of my business!)   We were taking Clomid ourselves at the time and I was mostly curious because I knew they had had difficulty and wanted to hear a success story!

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  • MuseumMavenMuseumMaven member

    imagebellasmom27:
    I thought maybe my hospital was the only one with nurses that were freakin retarted!

    Please don't use the word "retarded" in this way.  I find it far more offensive than making a mistake about spontaneous twins.

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  • *Chicken**Chicken*
    imagebellasmom27:
    Although the hospital I am delivering at is considered to be the best in Miami for multiples b/c of their level 3 NICU, I thought maybe my hospital was the only one with nurses that were freakin retarted! All the nurses I came across over there so far, even at my OB office, the staff says "was it natural or did you use drugs?" I also tell them "hey don't they educate you people on he difference, especially since you people come across mutliple pregnancies all the time?
    This post is far more offensive than the, most likely well educated, nurses in your Drs office.
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  • norika33norika33

    If you haven't seen this:

    https://www.themompetition.com/2010/11/moms-of-multiples-are-freaks-of-nature.html?spref=fb

    "Are they natural?"

    "They are not robots and are made from organic matter."

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  • amanda31Hamanda31H member
    I've still never heard anyone IRL use the term "spontaneous."  I had doctors/nurses ask if they were "naturally occuring." They would also ask if they were "medically assisted." 
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  • SoldiersGreenBeanSoldiersGreenBean
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    imagebellasmom27:
    I thought maybe my hospital was the only one with nurses that were freakin retarted!

    Please don't use the word "retarded" in this way.  I find it far more offensive than making a mistake about spontaneous twins.

    This is the 2nd time in a week that you've used the term retarded as a descriptor.  It's offensive.  It was the first time, and it still is now. 

    If you insist on educating people about the correct terms for twins, you should be equally open to educating yourself about offensive terms.

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  • PipigirlPipigirl
    imagenorika33:

    If you haven't seen this:

    https://www.themompetition.com/2010/11/moms-of-multiples-are-freaks-of-nature.html?spref=fb

    "Are they natural?"

    "They are not robots and are made from organic matter."

    I LOVE THIS!! Thanks for sharing.  

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