What are your hot button issues?

LaraGaudess · January 2011

I was lurking this morning and came across this post on another board, and thought it would be a good one to post. So come on ladies, what topics set you off?

I have a few:

- People who claim they have done everything humanly possible to lose weight but don't exercise or and haven't cleaned up their diet. I hate to admit this, but I judge when I see a cart full of light, fat free, and 100 calorie snack packs, but not a single fruit and vegetable in sight. Or anything fresh for that matter.

- People who say they have no time to exercise, but spend 4-5 hours a day watching tv or on the computer.

- Animal cruelty. I just can't understand why people would hurt a defenseless animal for any other reason but survival.

- GBLT rights (all for it, but it's hard not to be when many family and friends are gay)

- Ignorance. I really try not to comment on issues that I don't know anything about, lest I look like a moron.

Ladies? Chime in!

lotus88 · January 2011

Just bouncing off a couple of your points. When making decisions, whether they be political or day to day, i have a general rule of thumb. If X was happening to my child, if my child was X, how would I want them to be treated? what would I want others to do? I think it's a good litmus test for choices.

CashewsMommy · January 2011

People who judge the choices of others.

BabyTrippin · January 2011

CashewsMommy:
People who judge the choices of others.

This.

And people who forget that those around them are human, with just as many feelings.

biddy53178 · January 2011

things that enrage me:

people who beat and sexually abuse their children and then get mad at me for calling DCF, people who judge others and then use God to defend their actions or their first amendment rights to justify spewing hate, people who are sneaky and two faced, hmmm...im am sure there are plenty others but...

TeacherVicky · January 2011

CashewsMommy:
People who judge the choices of others.

Yes

Rawr08 · January 2011

BabyTrippin:

CashewsMommy:
People who judge the choices of others.

This.

And people who forget that those around them are human, with just as many feelings.

These!

TeacherVicky · January 2011

LaraGaudess:

I was lurking this morning and came across this post on another board, and thought it would be a good one to post. So come on ladies, what topics set you off?

I have a few:

- People who claim they have done everything humanly possible to lose weight but don't exercise or and haven't cleaned up their diet. I hate to admit this, but I judge when I see a cart full of light, fat free, and 100 calorie snack packs, but not a single fruit and vegetable in sight. Or anything fresh for that matter.

- People who say they have no time to exercise, but spend 4-5 hours a day watching tv or on the computer.

- Animal cruelty. I just can't understand why people would hurt a defenseless animal for any other reason but survival.

- GBLT rights (all for it, but it's hard not to be when many family and friends are gay)

- Ignorance. I really try not to comment on issues that I don't know anything about, lest I look like a moron.

Ladies? Chime in!

Hmmm... doesn't this probably/possibly apply to your first two hot button issues you listed?! Hmm

AutumnLeavesFall · January 2011

Rawr08:
BabyTrippin:

CashewsMommy:
People who judge the choices of others.

This.

And people who forget that those around them are human, with just as many feelings.

These!

Also the "Just adopt" phrase or any other "just relax" phrase from people who know you struggle with infertility.

LaraGaudess · January 2011

Ok ladies, this was not meant in any way to be inflammatory, it was just meant as a little fun/get to know you thing. I apologize for offending anyone, but I was attempting to be honest. Frankly speaking, I don't think I was being offensively honest, especially considering some of the posts that have been on here in the past, but that is just my perspective. Clearly others don't think so.

For the record, I do believe I know what I'm talking about regarding the first two points of my OP, as I am a CPT through Can Fit Pro, and as someone who used to be heavy and used every excuse under the sun not to exercise.

CashewsMommy · January 2011

LaraGaudess:

Ok ladies, this was not meant in any way to be inflammatory, it was just meant as a little fun/get to know you thing. I apologize for offending anyone, but I was attempting to be honest. Frankly speaking, I don't think I was being offensively honest, especially considering some of the posts that have been on here in the past, but that is just my perspective. Clearly others don't think so.

For the record, I do believe I know what I'm talking about regarding the first two points of my OP, as I am a CPT through Can Fit Pro, and as someone who used to be heavy and used every excuse under the sun not to exercise.

But just because you did it, doesn't mean that everyone else can. I used to work out every day for an hour. EOD cardio and strength. The only processed food I ate was a light fit TV dinner meal for lunch (because it was simplier). I lost 50lbs and still had a ton more to lose... but despite all of that I stood still. FOR A YEAR, changing tons in exercise, counting points and not straying at all.. and I stood still. And you can sit there and judge me?

LaraGaudess · January 2011

CashewsMommy:
LaraGaudess:

Ok ladies, this was not meant in any way to be inflammatory, it was just meant as a little fun/get to know you thing. I apologize for offending anyone, but I was attempting to be honest. Frankly speaking, I don't think I was being offensively honest, especially considering some of the posts that have been on here in the past, but that is just my perspective. Clearly others don't think so.
For the record, I do believe I know what I'm talking about regarding the first two points of my OP, as I am a CPT through Can Fit Pro, and as someone who used to be heavy and used every excuse under the sun not to exercise.
But just because you did it, doesn't mean that everyone else can. I used to work out every day for an hour. EOD cardio and strength. The only processed food I ate was a light fit TV dinner meal for lunch (because it was simplier). I lost 50lbs and still had a ton more to lose... but despite all of that I stood still. FOR A YEAR, changing tons in exercise, counting points and not straying at all.. and I stood still. And you can sit there and judge me?

Whoa, who said I was judging you? I don't even know you! From your description, it sounds like you did some great things and had some amazing results. You should be proud, not being defensive with me. You are exactly the kind of person I WASN'T talking about. Success in health and weight loss doesn't mean that we all become super models, it's about being healthy and making positive lifestyle changes.

I think you are also assuming that I don't have body or food issues either. Clearly this has touched a nerve, I'm not going to take responsibility for that. You know, because I don't know you and all that. Have we even spoken to each other on the boards before this post?

CashewsMommy · January 2011

LaraGaudess:

Whoa, who said I was judging you? I don't even know you! From your description, it sounds like you did some great things and had some amazing results. You should be proud, not being defensive with me. You are exactly the kind of person I WASN'T talking about. Success in health and weight loss doesn't mean that we all become super models, it's about being healthy and making positive lifestyle changes.

I think you are also assuming that I don't have body or food issues either. Clearly this has touched a nerve, I'm not going to take responsibility for that. You know, because I don't know you and all that. Have we even spoken to each other on the boards before this post?

I'm going to quote you. "but I judge when I see a cart full of light, fat free, and 100 calorie snack packs, but not a single fruit and vegetable in sight. Or anything fresh for that matter."

What I described was me before. Today, I think to myself.. .why do all that work when It doesn't help? So my cart has 100 calorie packs for snacks, light/fat free yogurts, and light/fat free skillet meals and other quick foods because I just don't feel like taking the time to cook fresh foods anymore if it doesn't help. So, was I wrong to think you are judging me?

BabyTrippin · January 2011

LaraGaudess:
Whoa, who said I was judging you? I don't even know you! From your description, it sounds like you did some great things and had some amazing results. You should be proud, not being defensive with me. You are exactly the kind of person I WASN'T talking about. Success in health and weight loss doesn't mean that we all become super models, it's about being healthy and making positive lifestyle changes.
I think you are also assuming that I don't have body or food issues either. Clearly this has touched a nerve, I'm not going to take responsibility for that. You know, because I don't know you and all that. Have we even spoken to each other on the boards before this post?

Wow. Just wow.

Ever think that possibly, with the rampant PCOS on this board, that your "OMG Fat people make me puke" style comments might be a little bit hurtful? There are those of us who have done it all in the name of losing weight and our bodies refuse to budge. Those of us who are overweight do get judged on a daily basis. We are assumed to be lazy, french fry scarfing, skanky good-for-nothings. To have that thrown in our faces, here in our safe place, stings. A lot.

LaraGaudess · January 2011

Sigh... I can't win with this one. You feel free to think that I am persecuting you if you like. Wallow in self pity over a general comment made by an internet stranger, a comment that was in no way directed towards you. A comment that wasn't even rude or inflammatory in a way that is deserving of this flaming!

I'm going to get on with my day.

LaraGaudess · January 2011

BabyTrippin:
LaraGaudess:
Whoa, who said I was judging you? I don't even know you! From your description, it sounds like you did some great things and had some amazing results. You should be proud, not being defensive with me. You are exactly the kind of person I WASN'T talking about. Success in health and weight loss doesn't mean that we all become super models, it's about being healthy and making positive lifestyle changes.
I think you are also assuming that I don't have body or food issues either. Clearly this has touched a nerve, I'm not going to take responsibility for that. You know, because I don't know you and all that. Have we even spoken to each other on the boards before this post?

Wow. Just wow.
Ever think that possibly, with the rampant PCOS on this board, that your "OMG Fat people make me puke" style comments might be a little bit hurtful? There are those of us who have done it all in the name of losing weight and our bodies refuse to budge. Those of us who are overweight do get judged on a daily basis. We are assumed to be lazy, french fry scarfing, skanky good-for-nothings. To have that thrown in our faces, here in our safe place, stings. A lot.

Holy crap, you need to chill out. If I had the attitude that fat people suck, I would have no friends or family. Chill the eff out and stop taking a general comment so personally! If you look in my OP, I didn't actually even mention the word fat once when talking about people. At all. Your words, not mine.

CashewsMommy · January 2011

LaraGaudess:

Sigh... I can't win with this one. You feel free to think that I am persecuting you if you like. Wallow in self pity over a general comment made by an internet stranger, a comment that was in no way directed towards you. A comment that wasn't even rude or inflammatory in a way that is deserving of this flaming!

I'm going to get on with my day.

First of all. If you think this is a flaming..... you are so wrong!!

jinx75 · January 2011

Lara-ARE YOU Fing KIDDING ME?! You're not judging anyone on here? Really but you judge complete strangers in the grocery store who are overweight but don't have any fruits or veggies in their carts? They are strangers too YES you are judging people here. You have a momentary encouter with a stranger in the grocery store without any knowledge of their past or what they have been through and you ASSUME that they are making a choice to stay fat or refuse to exercise. Who died and made you God?!

Me personally I was 50 lbs overweight at the beginning of last year and was sick of myself so I got myself together and through diet and exercise lost 35 lbs. Then I got pregnant and had a miscarriage and the emotional pain was so overwhelming that I gained 19 lbs back by not taking care of myself. I just had another miscarriage this week so you can imagine the compounding of the aforementioned pain. Frankly I couldn't give two sh!ts if you were standing behind me, whilest I check out, judging me. You don't me, you don't know any of the people that you are judging so all you've done is become the very thing that hits your hot button....IGNORANT!!!

rock-elle · January 2011

OP, you have to honestly realize that its just not that easy for everyone. Quit AW'ing your skinny @ss. There are a lot emotional ladies on here, and I can say that I am an emotional eater. I think you are potentially opening up a very dangerous issue on here.

Judging others is NOT tolerated here.

CashewsMommy · January 2011

LaraGaudess:

Holy crap, you need to chill out. If I had the attitude that fat people suck, I would have no friends or family. Chill the eff out and stop taking a general comment so personally! If you look in my OP, I didn't actually even mention the word fat once when talking about people. At all. Your words, not mine.

Fat people = People that need to lose weight

People that need to lose weight = People who claim they have done everything humanly possible to lose weight but don't exercise or and haven't cleaned up their diet.

Therefore: Fat people = People who claim they have done everything humanly possible to lose weight but don't exercise or and haven't cleaned up their diet.

Common Associative Property.

Seriously. Your OP spewed with "people who need to lose weight and don't do anything about it bother me" There are a lot of women on this board that fit into that category. Just because you said "people" and not our specifc names... we fit into this category... therefore you are talking about us. Sorry honey.

emeraudecephiro · January 2011

CashewsMommy:
LaraGaudess:

Holy crap, you need to chill out. If I had the attitude that fat people suck, I would have no friends or family. Chill the eff out and stop taking a general comment so personally! If you look in my OP, I didn't actually even mention the word fat once when talking about people. At all. Your words, not mine.
Fat people = People that need to lose weight
People that need to lose weight = People who claim they have done everything humanly possible to lose weight but don't exercise or and haven't cleaned up their diet.
Therefore: Fat people = People who claim they have done everything humanly possible to lose weight but don't exercise or and haven't cleaned up their diet.
Common Associative Property.
Seriously. Your OP spewed with "people who need to lose weight and don't do anything about it bother me" There are a lot of women on this board that fit into that category. Just because you said "people" and not our specifc names... we fit into this category... therefore you are talking about us. Sorry honey.

You go, Cashew! OP...just back away slowly and apologize...for serious.

pennynjon · January 2011

My "hot button issue" is definetely people judging other people when they don't even know them. I used to spend hours a day in the gym, taught aerobics, ate really healthy. I had to put that much into it to stay thin. I have gained 30 or more pounds since then. But after everything I have been through in the the past couple of years, I know that I will never spend that much time and energy on my weight because I want the world to accept me. That isn't what is important in life. I do want to be healthier, and am trying to eat better tahn I have been. But, it really bothers me when people judge people who struggle with their weight.

damabo80 · January 2011

Hey - OP:

I'll let you in on a secret: I do my shopping at two different grocery stores. One store is cheaper and is good for buying non-fresh items like those low calorie snack packs you're erm, fond of, among other sundries.

The other grocery store is more expensive, but it has better fresh items (dairy, fruit, veggies, etc), so I buy the fresh stuff there. I guess I would be one of those you judge if you saw me at the cheaper grocery store (with nary a fresh veggie in my cart, and packing some extra junk in my trunk). But then, could I judge you for buying crappy produce because you're too poor to go to a higher class grocery store? Can we just have one big effin judge-fest? The world would be sooo much better, wouldn't it??

Geez. Of all the things to judge people for....the stuff that is in their cart on ONE trip to a store. Classy.

LaraGaudess · January 2011

damabo80:
Hey - OP:
I'll let you in on a secret: I do my shopping at two different grocery stores. One store is cheaper and is good for buying non-fresh items like those low calorie snack packs you're erm, fond of, among other sundries.
The other grocery store is more expensive, but it has better fresh items (dairy, fruit, veggies, etc), so I buy the fresh stuff there. I guess I would be one of those you judge if you saw me at the cheaper grocery store (with nary a fresh veggie in my cart, and packing some extra junk in my trunk). But then, could I judge you for buying crappy produce because you're too poor to go to a higher class grocery store? Can we just have one big effin judge-fest? The world would be sooo much better, wouldn't it??
Geez. Of all the things to judge people for....the stuff that is in their cart on ONE trip to a store. Classy.

I was going to let this alone, but I had to comment on this post, because it is MORONIC!

You people are unreal. Supportive my ass. You misread my OP, and have been judging me ever since. You've made assumptions and you have put words in my post, or convoluted what I actually said. I get that this is a forum to express and share ideas, but that doesn't make your inability to understand a general statement and subsequent over reaction right.

The one thing that this has proved is that this is definitely a hot button issue on this board, and it has hit a nerve with many of you. Not my intention, but I guess that is what happens with these kinds of things. I have apologized in an earlier post, but I doubt it would matter if I said it a million times, it won't be accepted.

We have all gone through a traumatic experience losing our children the way we have. However, that doesn't make it ok for you to gang up on someone who is newer to the board and call it being supportive.

TeacherVicky · January 2011

LaraGaudess:

Ok ladies, this was not meant in any way to be inflammatory, it was just meant as a little fun/get to know you thing. I apologize for offending anyone, but I was attempting to be honest. Frankly speaking, I don't think I was being offensively honest, especially considering some of the posts that have been on here in the past, but that is just my perspective. Clearly others don't think so.

For the record, I do believe I know what I'm talking about regarding the first two points of my OP, as I am a CPT through Can Fit Pro, and as someone who used to be heavy and used every excuse under the sun not to exercise.

You may have the knowledge, but you don't know everyone's story. Which means you are making comments and passing judgement without really knowing.

I also have my qualifications through CFP and through CSEP, as well as a human kinetics degree. I'm not saying I'm better, I am saying I don't judge these people you speak of.

LaraGaudess · January 2011

Double post

LaraGaudess · January 2011

Edit - Double post

LaraGaudess · January 2011

damabo80:
Hey - OP:
I'll let you in on a secret: I do my shopping at two different grocery stores. One store is cheaper and is good for buying non-fresh items like those low calorie snack packs you're erm, fond of, among other sundries.
The other grocery store is more expensive, but it has better fresh items (dairy, fruit, veggies, etc), so I buy the fresh stuff there. I guess I would be one of those you judge if you saw me at the cheaper grocery store (with nary a fresh veggie in my cart, and packing some extra junk in my trunk). But then, could I judge you for buying crappy produce because you're too poor to go to a higher class grocery store? Can we just have one big effin judge-fest? The world would be sooo much better, wouldn't it??
Geez. Of all the things to judge people for....the stuff that is in their cart on ONE trip to a store. Classy.

I was going to let this alone, but I had to comment on this post, because it is MORONIC!

You people are unreal. Supportive my ass. You misread my OP, and have been judging me ever since. You've made assumptions and you have put words in my post, or convoluted what I actually said. I get that this is a forum to express and share ideas, but that doesn't make your inability to understand a general statement and subsequent over reaction right.

The one thing that this has proved is that this is definitely a hot button issue on this board, and it has hit a nerve with many of you. Not my intention, but I guess that is what happens with these kinds of things. I have apologized in an earlier post, but I doubt it would matter if I said it a million times, it won't be accepted.

We have all gone through a traumatic experience losing our children the way we have. However, that doesn't make it ok for you to gang up on someone who is newer to the board and call it being supportive.

LaraGaudess · January 2011

TeacherVicky:
LaraGaudess:

Ok ladies, this was not meant in any way to be inflammatory, it was just meant as a little fun/get to know you thing. I apologize for offending anyone, but I was attempting to be honest. Frankly speaking, I don't think I was being offensively honest, especially considering some of the posts that have been on here in the past, but that is just my perspective. Clearly others don't think so.
For the record, I do believe I know what I'm talking about regarding the first two points of my OP, as I am a CPT through Can Fit Pro, and as someone who used to be heavy and used every excuse under the sun not to exercise.
You may have the knowledge, but you don't know everyone's story. Which means you are making comments and passing judgement without really knowing.
I also have my qualifications through CFP and through CSEP, as well as a human kinetics degree. I'm not saying I'm better, I am saying I don't judge these people you speak of.

I absolutely agree with what you are saying. It also said in my post that it was something that I hate to admit about myself. It's not something that I think is a great thing about my personality.

Whatever... I have to leave this alone now. There are so many things that I want and could say that would better explain my thought process, but I've been on the bump long enough to know that anything I say will get shot down. I'll be called names and flamed more than I am now, and I'm not too excited at the prospect of being called a liar and other such names more than I already have been today.

I will say though, that I think it's hilarious that the rest of my post was left alone. I thought that is where the fight would be!

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