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Intro and question

Hi all!  My name is Cristina and I have been a lurker here for a while but wanted to introduce myself and see if anyone could help me with a question.  In November of 2009 my husband and became pregnant and then suffered a miscarriage at 5 weeks.  Every since then we have not been successful at conceiving again.  In November this year we started seeking out answers for our problem.  Since he is in the Navy I was sent to a naval hospital to get testing done.  I have had all of my testing done and it all came back normal(testing was done by a midwife).  My DH had a sperm analysis done and we found out the results finally today.  They told him that he has a high white blood cell count and a low volume.  Right now all they have done is order more blood test.  My question is if this is a normal route for them to go to start fixing a high WBC count?  Also can a high WBC count affect the volume or is that normally something seperate?  I appreciate all the help, unfortunately I am finding it hard to get many questions answered by our doctors and our insurance wont give me a referral to a RE before my DH gets his results figured out.
Trying To Conceive since November 2009
Dx: PCOS and MFI
IUI#1-4 all BFN
IVF#1 January (4R, 4M, 1F) BFP
Colt was born on 10/27 at 11:50pm. 6lbs and 19 1/4"
Surpise! Baby #2 is on it's way.  EDD 9.18.14

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Re: Intro and question

  • Hi and welcome :)  I think the answer to your question of whether a high WBC count can affect the volume, is yes, it's possible. It's ALSO possible that it's a separate issue.  Clear as mud, right? From what I understand, a high WBC count is usually indicative of an infection of some kind.  Infections can effect volume, though not all do.  Volume issues can be caused by a number of things, including obstructions, etc (and sometimes, like in our case, they can't find what is causing it)  Is YH seeing a urologist? That would be my next step if possible and he really should go to one that specializes in fertility.

    My guess on them ordering more blood tests is to find out what his infection might be.  I think that some infections only show up in the semen though, but don't quote me on that.  I think the blood test is a good idea.  And so is a second SA if possible to confirm the results are accurate since they can always vary.  Good luck! I hope you get some answers soon.  Keep us posted, I'd like to hear how the tests go.  I've been a little frustrated myself because the focus seems to be more on me than on trying to figure out what might be causing MH's volume issue :( 

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  • Welcome to the board. I'm sorry I can't give you much advice but I wanted to say sorry for your loss.  Good luck with your answers.
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  • Hi and welcome.  First off, sorry about your loss. 

    I agree with PP. 

    For YH SA and them saying he has a high WBC count yes they could effect each other.  High WBC count usually means that there is an infection going on in the body OR he is on a steroidal medication which also affects WBC.  Has he been sick lately or on any meds like Prednisone?  (working in the medical field I always haave to check on high WBC count with PCP's since I work with surgeries)  To answer your question if it is normal to "fix" the WBC count.  Yes it is.  If it is something as simple as YH having a cold or other infection it is easier and could solve his problem of the abnormal SA.  I would suggest YH repeating his CBC and SA.  Is he seeing a urologist yet?  He may benefit from a urologist to check for blockages and what not.  What testing did you have done and did they give you your results yet?

    Are you under YH ins or your own policy holder?  If you are your own policy holder, check with your ins on a RE.  I think it's horrible that the ins won't refer you to an RE until your husbands tests are clear.  I would also call your doctor that did the testing for you to get your results.  Maybe that could allow your ins to refer you to an RE.

    GL to you!!

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    Dx: Hyperprolactinemia and Unexplained
    Parlodel 2.5 mg (1 Tab M,W,F; 1/2 tab the other days); Folic Acid; Prenatals
    All 5 Clomid cylces resulted in BFN; no more Clomid.
    Laparoscopy Scheduled 1/11/11: Path report showed minor inflammation and infection.
    3/30/11 Biopsy results: cervial and endometrial pathologies normal; one pathology came back abnormal with 5 rare cells from the endometritis
    Cycles 1-5 of Follistim, Novarel, Progesterone = BFN
    Surprise BFP 11/18/11
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  • Welcome! I hope your stay is short. Sorry for your loss.
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  • Hi and welcome.  I'm so sorry for your loss.

    I'm sorry I can't give you any insight on YH's SA, but good luck!  Hope you can get some answers soon!

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  • Thanks for the advice all.  To answer a few of the questions...My husband and I are both under Tricare and I was told before I could go to an RE I would have to go see the doctors at the Naval Hospital.  So far the test they have done on me are a blood panel, more blood work between cycle days 21-23 and a intrauterine ultrasound.  All of my test came back normal they said.  They told my husband he would have to get the results of this blood work before they would send him to a urologist.  My DH has no had an infection recently nor has he been sick or on any medication.  I am kind of at a loss as to where to go from here.  I dont feel like any of our doctors are helping us out and my insurance wont let me go to an RE without a referral from them.  I guess I just have to try and make the best of what they are doing for us right now.  Thanks again for the advice
    Trying To Conceive since November 2009
    Dx: PCOS and MFI
    IUI#1-4 all BFN
    IVF#1 January (4R, 4M, 1F) BFP
    Colt was born on 10/27 at 11:50pm. 6lbs and 19 1/4"
    Surpise! Baby #2 is on it's way.  EDD 9.18.14

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  • That royally sucks!  Hopefully you both will get some answers soon that will allow your ins to go to a more specialized physician.  GL to you both!
    Life As I Know It
    TTC #1 Since 2/2008
    Dx: Hyperprolactinemia and Unexplained
    Parlodel 2.5 mg (1 Tab M,W,F; 1/2 tab the other days); Folic Acid; Prenatals
    All 5 Clomid cylces resulted in BFN; no more Clomid.
    Laparoscopy Scheduled 1/11/11: Path report showed minor inflammation and infection.
    3/30/11 Biopsy results: cervial and endometrial pathologies normal; one pathology came back abnormal with 5 rare cells from the endometritis
    Cycles 1-5 of Follistim, Novarel, Progesterone = BFN
    Surprise BFP 11/18/11
    Beta #1 208, p4 7.4; Beta #2 1846.20, p4 16.1
    u/s #1 12/2/11 Heart rate 126 bpm measuring at 3mm
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      They told my husband he would have to get the results of this blood work before they would send him to a urologist.  My DH has no had an infection recently nor has he been sick or on any medication.  I am kind of at a loss as to where to go from here.  I dont feel like any of our doctors are helping us out and my insurance wont let me go to an RE without a referral from them.  I guess I just have to try and make the best of what they are doing for us right now.  Thanks again for the advice

    I think you have your answer.  You wait for the results of YH's b/w and go from there.  If they find an infection, they should treat it.  Once it is treated, it may take 3 months for YH's sperm to get to normal levels, assuming that was the only issue. He'll get another SA and if that still comes back abnormal, then there is no reason for them not to send him to a urologist (if they don't do it before then- for instance, if they don't find an infection or some other reason for the results).  Just so you know, he may have an infection and show no outward symptoms of it.

    I know it sucks to have to wait, trust me.  But it sounds like you are moving in the right direction with the b/w, so I wouldn't be too discouraged.  Just keep being proactive and asking questions.  You are right in that no doctor is going to care as much about you getting pregnant as you two do, so keep advocating for yourself.  GL :)

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