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UBAC?

Has anyone considered a UBAC? I am not currently expecting, but after two unnecessary c/s I refuse to have another one on anybody else's terms but my own. So I am studying up even more on my options. If I cannot find somebody who will let me have a TOL with no induction, I will be having a UBA2C
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  • I would never consider an UC ever, but especially not after 2 c/s. I don't know why anyone would risk that? I don't usually judge women on their birth choices, but a UBA2C seems selfish and irresponsible. I'm not sure what a TOL is, sorry.

    Were your two c/s so terrible that you would be willing to risk your life and the life of your baby just to avoid another one?

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  • I personally am not considering a UBAC but the author of this blog should be able to direct you to resources about Unassisted Birth.  Her first home birth was unassisted and the second just had a midwife in the background when she gave birth.  I hope this helps.  Good luck in your search.

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  • H and I talked about it when I got pg this time.  In the end we deicded that a HBAC with a midwife was what we wanted (well, he still wants to go unassisted, but I am just not comfortable with that).  We chose to have a midwife mostly becuase I am afraid of after the birth.  I plan to labor and push my baby out without much of their assistance, but I want them there so that if I were to hemmorage or baby needed recesitation or something they know what to do (and they know how much bleeding is too much bleeding, etc).

    I think if it came down to it, I would have an UBA2C if it was that or a ERCS.  I really have a lot of trust in birth and in my body (or any woman's body really).  I really feel like it works if you leave it alone.

    Another option that I have heard of, if you can't find someone who will support at VBA2C is to labor at home (or in a hotel across the street from the hospital, or in the hospital parking lot) and walk in pushing.  This still scares me a bit though because they could still section you even at that point.

    the lady who writes this blog https://birthwithoutfearblog.com/ has had an UC after I think 2 c/s and she is pregnant again and planning another UC.  She is also on facebook under Birth Without Fear.

    I know you are in a tough spot (or will be) and the choices you make will not be easy.  Good luck!

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  • I think UB is almost never your only or safest option. I bet you can find a home birth midwife who is very good at sitting on her hands. Remember, c-section isn't the only medical intervention that could be necessary or lifesaving. Oxygen, medication to stop bleeding, and Pit to deliver the placenta (if needed of course) can all be administered at home by a midwife, and she can determine if there is something that truly needs a transfer (hemmorrhage, birth injury, etc.). So no, I would choose a HB with midwife (I am) over a UB.

  • I am not a UB supporter - I don't think it is worth the possible risks.  Especially for a VBAC.  Can you find a midwife that would be willing to do a homebirth? (sounds like not, but just in case)  Personally, I'd do a RCS before a UBAC.
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  • I personally would never UB. I trust my body but not myself to know exactly what to do in the moments after delivery. Or to even know fully if my body is doing something right or wrong such as hemmoraging and if there is anything I can do to stop it. What if my baby is not breathing right or got a dislocated shoulder or something? I would much rather have a mid-wife there that is understanding enough to know that I would like to do as much on my own as possible but have her ther for the actual delivery and check up of the baby and myself.

    This however is obviously a very personal decision and only you can decide. Good luck with your research and decision making.

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  • I understand why one might never want to have a RCS. I also understand trusting your body and wish I had been capable of doing that last time. But, unfortuanately , my uterus has been permanently altered by having a c-section. For this reason I would not be comfortable simply trusting my body.
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  • There are traveling midwives who will come to you if you can't find anyone local to attend your birth, in or out of the hospital. They aren't much more than a typical homebirth midwife's fee.
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  • I would never consider a UBAC.

    I truly believe that a woman's birth experience IS important, and that "a healthy baby" is not the only thing that matters. However, at the end of the day is the experience of vaginal birth really so vital for you, that you'd put yourself and unborn child in an extremely precarious position in order to achieve it? Frankly, I can't understand that. There are so many reasons to have a trained professional with you for the birth, and so many things that could go wrong if you're on your own but be easily fixed with the right support, that the concept of throwing all that out the window just seems totally irrational.

    I understand wanting to take back control over the process, believe me I do. I sincerely hope that you find the right support. There has to be a midwife somewhere that will meet your criteria. However, if that does not happen for some reason, I urge you to take a step back and look at the bigger picture here. A c-section is not ideal for many, but sometimes it truly is the safest and best option. I know that you understand that sacrifice is a huge part of being a parent.

    Also, I know that there are other internet communities out there that are far more supportive of UC than this one, and that you might turn there next if you don't these responses. Please keep in mind that anyone can post whatever they want to post on the internet. Take the time to read actual, scientific, published studies. Talk to different doctors, midwives - people that have dedicated their lives to making birth safe. If you're seriously considering doing this, please make sure you truly know exactly what the risks are. 

    Best of luck to you. 

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  • If I could absolutely not find anyone to attend in any setting, I would rather UBAC than have a RCS. UBAC certainly has risks, but I am more comfortable with those than with the risks of MCS. Though I know that's not a popular opinion.
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  • Also, I believe the mothering.com forums have a UBAC borad.
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  • I trusted my body and the birth process, I prepared and educated myself and did everything "right", did HypnoBabies, did prenatal exercises, etc. etc. etc. IT DID NOT WORK. So no, there is no way on Earth I would UBAC. You never know what is going to happen. I have no problem with trusting that things usually go well, but banking on that wholesale when the stakes are so high is just not wise.

  • Personally I would not feel comfortable having an unassisted birth, VBAC or not.  It's absolutely true that most births will go just fine, including most unassisted births.  But in the event that something goes wrong--and for some people, it will--a skilled doctor or midwife can be the difference between life and death.  At a UC, you are on your own.  I don't trust myself or my husband to know the right way to deal with a true emergency just because we read some books on childbirth.  

    But I think it's absolutely your right to UC if that is what you feel is best (although I hope you will at least get prenatal care).  And if that is your choice, I wish you the best. 

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  • Nope - not a chance.  Before my first, I might have considered an UB.  But after seeing the HORRIBLE decisions I made while in the throws of contractions, I wouldn't trust myself at all.  I was so tired and in so much pain, all my resolve was lost.
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