To each their own regarding vaccines, but...

MommaMcG · January 2011

I am really upset my SIL is not vaccinating her son until 6 months. Jason talked to her about it the other night, and she mumbled something about autism being caused by MMR. And now there are reports the original study linking the two was falsified?! Outrageous. To know that this garbage has scared so many new parents into not giving their children life saving vaccines makes me so sad. Luckily, her son hasn't gotten sick. But they've been living in quarantine since he's been born, and she's missed out on family functions. She lives in California--where there is a whopping cough outbreak. They aren't even vaccinated against whopping cough, which makes me sad.

I dunno, I'll probably get flamed for this, but I had to get it off my chest. I obviously don't tell her what to do or how we feel. Like I said, to each their own.

SusieDMB · January 2011

Josie had just gotten her 2nd whooping cough vaccine. The dr. and the guy at the health dept. I talked to said we were very lucky that she got such a mild case and having 2 of the vaccines was why she did. They aren't considered fully protected until they get the 3rd one.

MommaMcG · January 2011

I'm so glad she's doing okay! I kept meaning to ask you how she was. And thankfully she had those two doses.

chrislynd · January 2011

At least she IS going to vaccinate him. But yeah, I get what you're saying. For me, if they want to risk their child's life by not vaccinating, well, I suppose that's their choice. I mean, even if I believed the autism crap, I'd take an autistic child over a dead child any day.

But what really irks me is that people who don't vaccinate are risking the health and well being of babies who are too young to have vaccines and that small percentage of the population who can't receive vaccines for medical reasons. They deserve to be protected by herd immunity that we should all help create by vaccinating our kids.

Val&B0604 · January 2011

chrislynd:
At least she IS going to vaccinate him. But yeah, I get what you're saying. For me, if they want to risk their child's life by not vaccinating, well, I suppose that's their choice. I mean, even if I believed the autism crap, I'd take an autistic child over a dead child any day.
But what really irks me is that people who don't vaccinate are risking the health and well being of babies who are too young to have vaccines and that small percentage of the population who can't receive vaccines for medical reasons. They deserve to be protected by herd immunity that we should all help create by vaccinating our kids.

Pretty much all of this. We wavered on the decision but I kept coming back to having a live child with autism than a dead one.

MommaMcG · January 2011

chrislynd:
At least she IS going to vaccinate him. But yeah, I get what you're saying. For me, if they want to risk their child's life by not vaccinating, well, I suppose that's their choice. I mean, even if I believed the autism crap, I'd take an autistic child over a dead child any day.

But what really irks me is that people who don't vaccinate are risking the health and well being of babies who are too young to have vaccines and that small percentage of the population who can't receive vaccines for medical reasons. They deserve to be protected by herd immunity that we should all help create by vaccinating our kids.

Yes! I think that's why it upsets me so much. Do they realize the risks by not vaccinating? And yes, she is going to vaccinate--at least, I think she said 6 months. My husband isn't too sure now when she said she would. *sigh*

It's just the risks they are taking that tick me off. If they were vaccinated against whopping cough, I'd feel a little better. But they aren't. Crazy.

lemen99 · January 2011

chrislynd:
At least she IS going to vaccinate him. But yeah, I get what you're saying. For me, if they want to risk their child's life by not vaccinating, well, I suppose that's their choice. I mean, even if I believed the autism crap, I'd take an autistic child over a dead child any day.

But what really irks me is that people who don't vaccinate are risking the health and well being of babies who are too young to have vaccines and that small percentage of the population who can't receive vaccines for medical reasons. They deserve to be protected by herd immunity that we should all help create by vaccinating our kids.

Yes

kelclay724 · January 2011

Totally agree with chrislynd. It's one thing to allow a parent to make choices for their own child, it's another to have those choices impact the lives of other babies and children.

indybride4.8.06 · January 2011

chrislynd:

At least she IS going to vaccinate him. But yeah, I get what you're saying. For me, if they want to risk their child's life by not vaccinating, well, I suppose that's their choice. I mean, even if I believed the autism crap, I'd take an autistic child over a dead child any day.

But what really irks me is that people who don't vaccinate are risking the health and well being of babies who are too young to have vaccines and that small percentage of the population who can't receive vaccines for medical reasons. They deserve to be protected by herd immunity that we should all help create by vaccinating our kids.

I totally agree with all of this!

uofibabe · January 2011

I cant believe any dr. would go along or advise them to wait that long. I'm pretty sure the dr.'s would have looked at me like I was crazy for not starting the vaccines but the autism issue does scare me a bit but not enough to not get him vaccinated on time. Even after all the BULL.....***...yep I said it I went through to get the flu vaccine for Clark.

IndyGirl02 · January 2011

MommaMcG:

And now there are reports the original study linking the two was falsified?! Outrageous.

This is just the latest newsbit about the original research article... it was published in 1998, then most of the co-authors removed their names after the lead author disclosed that he received financial compensation from attorneys putting together a case to sue vaccine companies (that sort of thing should be disclosed BEFORE publication -- and probably would have prevented it from being published in the first place!), and then about a year ago (early 2010) the journal retracted the research article and it was all over the news then.

I'm glad that the whole error has been corrected, but how many kids in those couple of years didn't get vaccinations all because this arrogant prick thought he could get away with scientific misconduct and fraud?? It's maddening.

chrislynd · January 2011

I'm also glad the article has been retracted and most people now realize Wakefield is a fraud, but a lot of damage has been done, because a lot of people still believe it.

MommaMcG · January 2011

IndyGirl02:
MommaMcG:

And now there are reports the original study linking the two was falsified?! Outrageous.

This is just the latest newsbit about the original research article... it was published in 1998, then most of the co-authors removed their names after the lead author disclosed that he received financial compensation from attorneys putting together a case to sue vaccine companies (that sort of thing should be disclosed BEFORE publication -- and probably would have prevented it from being published in the first place!), and then about a year ago (early 2010) the journal retracted the research article and it was all over the news then.

I'm glad that the whole error has been corrected, but how many kids in those couple of years didn't get vaccinations all because this arrogant prick thought he could get away with scientific misconduct and fraud?? It's maddening.

It is very maddening. To think that kids have died or became very sick because of this guy breaks my heart. I really want to forward this on to my SIL, but hopefully she's already seen it. I did post to my FB wall with hopes that she'd see it.... Embarrassed

slacy · January 2011

chrislynd:
At least she IS going to vaccinate him. But yeah, I get what you're saying. For me, if they want to risk their child's life by not vaccinating, well, I suppose that's their choice. I mean, even if I believed the autism crap, I'd take an autistic child over a dead child any day.

But what really irks me is that people who don't vaccinate are risking the health and well being of babies who are too young to have vaccines and that small percentage of the population who can't receive vaccines for medical reasons. They deserve to be protected by herd immunity that we should all help create by vaccinating our kids.

Ditto this word for word. Nicely said, Chrislyn! Sara

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