Toddlers: 12 - 24 Months

If you brought LO to daycare dirty

Would they bathe him/her? I have been watching my friend's relative's baby 3x a week and she is so dirty. I have to hold my breath when I change a pee diaper because her crotch smells so disgusting. My child has never smelled like that before. The first time I watched her at 3 months old, her nails had never been cut since she was born. I have started cutting them because she scratches me, but they have so much dirt up underneath them, I have to sanitize the clippers afterwards. I don't know what to do. She smells so badly, I don't want to hold her. Of course I do hold her because I would feel guilty otherwise, but I am really upset with how dirty this baby always is. 

My friend told me to bathe her when she first drops her off but honestly, I don't want to have to wash someone else's baby because they don't. And since I am her daycare, is that normal daycare protocol? Would they wash your child if you brought them dirty 3 days a week?

I guess I'm just upset that this baby doesn't seem to be cared for regularly or properly. I hate saying that because I don't know that the mother never bathes her, but the smell of her crotch alone is enough to indicate that she is not getting wiped good or washed very often at home. Any advice? I don't feel completely comfortable telling the mother my concerns since we are not close and I don't want to offend her. Also, maybe she is bathing her every night. Considering the condition of her black nails and smelly crotch, I highly doubt it.  

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Re: If you brought LO to daycare dirty

  • I don't know what saudades normally do, but I'd bathe her if I were in your position.
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  • This makes me sad. I would probably give her a bath when I thought she really needed it. It is not your responsibility, but I would feel bad for the child if I didnt give her a bath. If this is a regular thing, something should be said to the mother... poor baby.
  • I'd bathe her.  I don't understand some people.  Seriously if the kid smells how can you not put her in the tub?  I mean the mother/father/caregiver should be bathing the kid but really if you're also a caregiver and you care about the little girl you should bathe her.  I'd turn her mother into social services but I'd bathe her.
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  • If this baby's personal hygiene is being so seriously neglected what other needs aren't being met?  I would be very concerned about what's going on at home.  How does a 3 month old get dirt under their nails?
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  • imageljlkm:
    I don't know what saudades normally do, but I'd bathe her if I were in your position.

    this. I would do it just because I feel bad for that little girl 

  • Oh my gosh, bathe her! No, you should not have to do it, but for the baby's sake she needs a bath. Have you mentioned it to your friend? Maybe start there and see if she feels comfortable saying something to her relative. I know you may not want to put her in the middle, but she may care enough to step in. Someone has to.
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  • Maybe send out a refresher note to all the parents reminding them about your policies with the start of the new year?

    ie: Types of foods to bring, how many changes of clothes, diapers, etc.. 

    At least then you're sending it out to everyone and not isolating just that parent. Then if it continues, you can approach the mother with it. 

  • Yes, I would bathe her so that you can at least tolerate holding her and changing her diaper. It's not fair to her that her mom is not taking good care of her so someone should! Plus, I can't imagine that it is very healthy for her to not be washed "downtown" on a regular basis. Poor baby.
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  • No it is definitely not your responsibility but I think I would bathe her for my own piece of mind. If she smells badly like you say than something needs to be done and apparently the parents are not wise enough to take care of it. Poor little girl.
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  • I feel bad for the poor LO!  I don't think a day care should have to, but if you are at home watching her and it is that bad, please just take care of that little one!

    I think I missed the age, but how old is she now?

    I would give her a bath and then I would probably lie and say we were playing or eating or something, and she got her hands/face filthy, so I gave her a bath.

     That way you wouldn't have to have the awkward conversation about why you gave her a bath.  

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  • imageBrittani10/28:
    This makes me sad. I would probably give her a bath when I thought she really needed it. It is not your responsibility, but I would feel bad for the child if I didnt give her a bath. If this is a regular thing, something should be said to the mother... poor baby.

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  • What an awkward situation.  I would definitely bathe the poor baby.  And I know it's completely awkward, but definitely have a talk with the mother.  She does trust you to watch her child, so maybe she'll take the news ok.  Or she may be offended, but maybe it will at least help the poor babies situation by making the mother think about it and start taking her daughters hygiene a little more seriously.  Good luck!  I'm curious to how the situation turns out.
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  • Our in-home DCP recently 'fired' one of the families whose child she was caring for, and while it was not the sole issue, bathing and lack thereof was one of the major issues.

    Initially, she was simply bathing the child on an almost-daily basis, but when it became clear that there were other issues that the parents seemed unwilling or unable to address on their own (they would send 1 diaper with her...for the entire day, child's long hair was rarely maintained: tangled and unkempt, child has obvious yet apparently undiagnosed developmental issues that were making it difficult for our DCP to manage her along with other small children) our DCP finally had to tell them that they had to go somewhere else. It was almost as though they expected our DCP to warehouse their child and clothe, feed and bathe her FOR them. I feel awful for the child, but it was to the point where all of us were uncomfortable with the amount of parenting that was being left up to our DCP.

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  • imagehijoi:
    I would bathe the baby once and let her parents know that neglect like that will be reported to the authorities.

    Yup, this.

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  • I'd keep the friend out of it, giver her a bath and start writing notes/taking pictures. talk to the mom when she picks her up. If it continues, I would report her. I bathed my son 2x a week at that age (very sensitive skin) and he wasn't smelly. How sad.

  • My daycare offers to bathe the babies if you want, so I guess it is a normal thing daycares do...
  • imageladyalmalthea:

    I'd keep the friend out of it, giver her a bath and start writing notes/taking pictures. talk to the mom when she picks her up. If it continues, I would report her. I bathed my son 2x a week at that age (very sensitive skin) and he wasn't smelly. How sad.

    completely agree with this.

    i feel so awful for the LO. makes my heart sad how someone could neglect their baby like that.

  • imagehooker82:

    Would they bathe him/her?

    I don't know how to answer this question b/c i would NEVER bring my child to daycare dirty. I think IF i did, that my daycare would probably bathe her. I know when DD gets food all over or spills milk on herself, or has a poo-splosion, our day care provider will definately give her a bath.

  • imageladyalmalthea:

    I bathed my son 2x a week at that age (very sensitive skin) and he wasn't smelly. How sad.

    This. Madeline gets a bath once, maybe twice a week due to eczema. However, she never smells. If the child's that dirty, it's not just irregular bathing that is problematic.

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  • Honestly, that sounds neglectful.  Poor baby.  Does your friend have PPD or something like that?  I'd talk to her about it.

    But FWIW, I didn't cut my oldest' nails until about 4 months because I was so frightened to cut him.

  • If you're watching her child 3x a week, I think you're close enough to mention that the baby is dirty.  That's your responsibility I'd think.
  • Honestly, I'd report them for neglect.
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  • You could try it from a different angle and say you are concerned because so much odor is being given off and you are concerned that it may be something serious. I don't know. I know it's hard, but I would have no problem just asking about it. Poor babe : (
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    Honestly, that sounds neglectful.  Poor baby.  Does your friend have PPD or something like that?  I'd talk to her about it.

    But FWIW, I didn't cut my oldest' nails until about 4 months because I was so frightened to cut him.

    From what my friend says, she is a semi-hoarder. I don't think she is purposefully neglectful, but just doesn't know better. Maybe she thinks changing a diaper is supposed to be smelly so she doesn't think anything of her baby's crotch smelling like it does. This isn't poo-stench though. It is the worst thing I have smelled on another person. The baby could have an infection it's so bad.  

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  • If this child were in a daycare centre, I am willing to put money on the fact that

    a) the parent would be spoken to

    and

    b) CPS would be called if nothing happened after talking to the parents.

    As her caregiver, you need to speak up and talk to the parents, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you.

     

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  • When I worked at a center we had a little girl that this.  We started giving her a bath every 2 days if we could tell that she hadn't had one.  We also noticed that they weren't changing her diaper at home, we would change her right before mom came and put a pink dot on her diaper.  She would come in with that same thing.  We documented it all and reported it.

    Please do something for this poor baby girl.

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    imageEchowysp:

    Honestly, that sounds neglectful.  Poor baby.  Does your friend have PPD or something like that?  I'd talk to her about it.

    But FWIW, I didn't cut my oldest' nails until about 4 months because I was so frightened to cut him.

    From what my friend says, she is a semi-hoarder. I don't think she is purposefully neglectful, but just doesn't know better. Maybe she thinks changing a diaper is supposed to be smelly so she doesn't think anything of her baby's crotch smelling like it does. This isn't poo-stench though. It is the worst thing I have smelled on another person. The baby could have an infection it's so bad.  

    I would call the mom at the next diaper change to tell her that there is a foul odor coming from her daughter's vagina and that you think she should take her to the pediatrician to check for an infection.  I would say "I'm going to bathe her to see if it helps".  I would let the mom know if it helped or not at the end of the day.  I would keep doing this for a few days to a week.  If the mom doesn't call to make an appt with a pedi, I think I would have to report her.  Especially if I suspected an untreated infection.  This is awkward and difficult for you, but you have to speak up for that poor baby. 

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  • imageMrs.C042807:

    If this child were in a daycare centre, I am willing to put money on the fact that

    a) the parent would be spoken to

    and

    b) CPS would be called if nothing happened after talking to the parents.

    As her caregiver, you need to speak up and talk to the parents, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you.

     

    Exactly this. I would be concerned that the child's lack of hygeine represents a much larger problem within the home. I used to do investigations for CPS and have seen some houses that would make your skin crawl. Of course, the risk is that they would not return the child to your care if you said something, but in that case I would proceed to calling CPS. Sorry that you got put in this situation and I feel so badly for this poor little girl.

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  • You're a DCP, and thus a mandated reporter, correct? If she is so dirty you don't want to hold her, you have sufficient grounds to report suspected neglect. Report.
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  • WTF?  The child is obviously neglected - you need to call child welfare.

    If she comes to daycare that stinky and w/ dirty fingernails, obviously something is amiss.  You need to report it.

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  • imagekatiekate1974:
    You're a DCP, and thus a mandated reporter, correct? If she is so dirty you don't want to hold her, you have sufficient grounds to report suspected neglect. Report.

    I'm not a real daycare. I just care for her 3 days a week in my home. She is a family member of my friend. I need to talk to the mother because I would feel like a douche reporting something that I don't know all of the facts. My friend says that no one is allowed at their house since she is a hoarder so no one really knows how clean they are with the baby. The baby was very sick when she was born so they didn't want her in DC around a lot of other babies. That's when they hired me on a trial basis. I love watching her, but can't deal with how differently we care for our children. I honestly don't think they are neglecting her on purpose. I think she just doesn't know how to clean a baby girl's vagina. I know I have to talk to her about it, it's just so freakin' awkward telling another mother that she needs to do something better/differently.  

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  • You know, I get that you are in an awkward and uncomfortable position and I don't envy you at all, but you HAVE to say something for the little girls sake, apparently no one else is speaking up for her and she is the completely helpless victim. I would still call CPS - I can't really see how its safe for her to live with hoarders and/or people who are so ignorant about basic hygiene that they don't know to wash their LOs genitals regularly. Its sad and heartbreaking, but you really need to confront this for the girls sake.
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    imagekatiekate1974:
    You're a DCP, and thus a mandated reporter, correct? If she is so dirty you don't want to hold her, you have sufficient grounds to report suspected neglect. Report.

    I'm not a real daycare. I just care for her 3 days a week in my home. She is a family member of my friend. I need to talk to the mother because I would feel like a douche reporting something that I don't know all of the facts. My friend says that no one is allowed at their house since she is a hoarder so no one really knows how clean they are with the baby. The baby was very sick when she was born so they didn't want her in DC around a lot of other babies. That's when they hired me on a trial basis. I love watching her, but can't deal with how differently we care for our children. I honestly don't think they are neglecting her on purpose. I think she just doesn't know how to clean a baby girl's vagina. I know I have to talk to her about it, it's just so freakin' awkward telling another mother that she needs to do something better/differently.  

    She's a hoarder? And her DD is so smelly you don't want to hold her? What facts are you waiting for? She's a mess, her house is a mess, her kid is a mess. She can't get her life together enough to learn to wash her child? Report. I'm sorry, but you owe it to that child to help her. Her mother is a hoarder, which is a very serious psychological disorder--simply telling her to bathe her child is going to do nothing. Her mind doesn't work like that. It's a very sad situation for that poor baby. I'd act.
  • Whether or not they are neglecting the child on purpose is a moot point.  The kid IS being neglected by a parent with a hoarding problem.  Have you ever been in their house?  Do you have any idea how DIRTY and unsanitary a hoarders house is?  Because that fact alone (you say you want facts) would be cause to call CPS. 

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  • ITA with KatieKate and Mrs.CO####.  You're caring for that child, therefore you have a responsibility.  Screw feeling uncomfortable.  What if something happened to that child and you did nothing?  Report it. 
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