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I'm glad there is a VBAC, but why not a cesarean board?

First off, thanks to the Bump for creating the VBAC board. I'm sure many women will find good support and knowledge here! 

 

I went through a lot of trauma with my cesarean (emotional) and every mom I've met has had some kind of guilt over it.

I spent months pouring over VBAC info after my son was born to help comfort me that I hadn't failed entirely, that I may have another chance (right now my local hospital won't agree to VBAC's but another one will). I struggled with the thought that mine was among the many unnecessary, so decided to stay away from the subject (mostly) until I am ready for my next child.

think the Bump should have a cesarean board (whether or not in conjunction with the VBAC for information since ther are many questions - recovery, how to try to turn babies before they are born if breech, and finding other women that feel like they were robbed or failed (or even women who had cesareans and had a positive experience with them, I actually love to hear those because it puts them more positive in my mind).

Almost one in three deliveries are a cesarean, whether planned or unplanned (2007 stats were 32 percent in the US).

I wish everyone on this board success with the birth they would like to experience.

Re: I'm glad there is a VBAC, but why not a cesarean board?

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  • I don't think a c/s board is necessary, precisely because 1/3 births are by cesarean.  There are plenty of moms on the pregnancy and baby boards who can answer questions and offer support in regard to c-sections.  VBAC is rare enough that there are usually only a handful of people on the bump can answer questions about it.  So in this case, I think it's useful to consolidate VBAC posts in one place, but I don't think that is necessary for general c/s posts.

    I think the more boards that are created, the slower and more boring each main board gets, so I'm generally not a fan of creating new boards.  I see this board as an exception, for the reason I mentioned above.

    But if anyone wants to try and get a c/s board created, they are welcome to contact thebump and request it, just like many of us did to get this board created. 

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  • Hi there!  I remember you from the Inland Empire board.  Have you ever heard of ICAN?  There's a whole lot of support available through that website.  I also went through a lot of emotional trauma with my c/s, and ICAN helped me bunches.
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    I don't think a c/s board is necessary, precisely because 1/3 births are by cesarean.  There are plenty of moms on the pregnancy and baby boards who can answer questions and offer support in regard to c-sections.  VBAC is rare enough that there are usually only a handful of people on the bump can answer questions about it.  So in this case, I think it's useful to consolidate VBAC posts in one place, but I don't think that is necessary for general c/s posts.

    I think the more boards that are created, the slower and more boring each main board gets, so I'm generally not a fan of creating new boards.  I see this board as an exception, for the reason I mentioned above.

    But if anyone wants to try and get a c/s board created, they are welcome to contact thebump and request it, just like many of us did to get this board created. 

    I agree with this.  a CS is considered a mainstream birth and can be found on any childbirth forum whereas a VBAC is MUCH less common or talked about but you can feel free to get the board by requesting it!  I agree that it will just slow down both a CS board and the trimester boards because there are so many CS posts there.

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  • I actually did a poll on the 0-3 month board several months ago asking c/s moms if they thought they'd deserved a board. I got about 80 responses and 70% thought we deserved a board. I know that several times I will scan through the boards looking specifically for posts titled c/s to see what's going on with other c/s moms. I actually e-mailed thebump on 9/1 requesting a c/s board but never got a response. Below is a copy of my e-mail:

    "I was wondering why The Bump does not have a message board for c-section mothers. Considering that anywhere from 20%-30% of women have c-sections it would seem that a c-section board would be quite useful. Since this was my first c-section I often scroll through the 0-3 month board looking for those that have c-section in the title to get info from others. Please let me know if this is something you might be able to incorporate into The Bump as I think it would be quite useful to those of us who have had sections to have a place to gather and exchange information and questions."

    I, too, am excited to have a VBAC board, but I think if thebump is going to have a Natural Birth board then c/s mommas deserve to have their own board as well.

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  • imagespark&echo:
    Hi there!  I remember you from the Inland Empire board.  Have you ever heard of ICAN?  There's a whole lot of support available through that website.  I also went through a lot of emotional trauma with my c/s, and ICAN helped me bunches.

    Thank you for the info! I just liked the local IE chapter on Facebook so I don't lose them.

  • I can see the appeal but I also see what Iris is saying. When I had a c/s related ? on the baby boards, I just prefaced the title w/ c/s mamas on the 0-3, 3-6, etc board. There was never a problem getting a lot of responses since there are so many of us. And when I looked to respond to posts, I often opened the c/s related ones.

    I think it is different from a vbac board because it is a more specialty kind of thing than a c/s board. And a lot of the emotional post c/s issues moms feel seem to be posted on this board, which makes me happy because I think that's a large part of being a hopeful vbacer is to deal with the emotional aspects of having a c/s.

    I would be fine if anyone came here to ask any kind of c/s related question.

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  • I think we're missing the point.

     I understand exactly what she's saying. She wants a place where people can openly discuss c/s without jumping into a VBAC board. A place where moms are experiencing a c/s for the first time, or finding out that they'll be experiencing it everytime. 

    A safe c/s place. Makes sense to me.

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    I think we're missing the point.

     I understand exactly what she's saying. She wants a place where people can openly discuss c/s without jumping into a VBAC board. A place where moms are experiencing a c/s for the first time, or finding out that they'll be experiencing it everytime. 

    A safe c/s place. Makes sense to me.

    People don't have to come to this board to talk about c-sections.  They can, and already do, discuss c-section topics on any of the tri, baby and toddler boards. 

    I'm not sure what a "safe place" really means when you are talking about a message board anyway.  It's a public site that anyone can read and post on.

    If you guys want a c/s board made, then petition the bump for it.  That's how this board and many others got created. 

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  • This one goes both ways. 

    I think the majority of c/s are unplanned, therefore, why would you talk about them beforehand? But then there are the 2nd timers going for a planned c/s. And there are people who need support for whatever trauma their c/s caused them (I know I could have used this!). When I was on the boards last time I think there were 2 out of hundreds of girls who were having an elective primary c-section just because they wanted one. That really isn't enough to create a board for it.

     

    I don't see why this board can't be for c/s moms to come for support even if they don't want a VBAC, but maybe that is just me. My ICAN chapter has a few moms who are either done having kids and had c/s for all of them, or  are pregnant and are having a planned c for their next one. 

  • If a mom had a traumatic CS birth, this is the perfect place to come. We are all pretty much experienced with getting something we didn't want.
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  • imageladyalmalthea:

    imagespark&echo:
    Hi there!  I remember you from the Inland Empire board.  Have you ever heard of ICAN?  There's a whole lot of support available through that website.  I also went through a lot of emotional trauma with my c/s, and ICAN helped me bunches.

    Thank you for the info! I just liked the local IE chapter on Facebook so I don't lose them.

    You're welcome!  The IE chapter is not active at all (or very much) as far as I know.  I had to go to Orange County to attend a meeting, but that was a year ago.  My doula/Bradley instructor and I are talking about starting up a new chapter in the Ontario area once I'm feeling up to it after having this baby.  

    I've made a lot of contacts through the main ICAN website.  There are forums there, and I know they offer webinars sometimes, which are great.  It's such a great resource for c/s moms.

    And additionally, if you ever want to talk or anything, shoot me an email:

    leslie at bugweb dot net  

  • imageStrawberrywine:

    I think we're missing the point.

     I understand exactly what she's saying. She wants a place where people can openly discuss c/s without jumping into a VBAC board. A place where moms are experiencing a c/s for the first time, or finding out that they'll be experiencing it everytime. 

    A safe c/s place. Makes sense to me.

    I agree with you. I received a lot of unhelpful, "be glad that your babies are healthy," posts on the regular month boards. It was very helpful for things like how to care for the incision, make sure that you walk as soon as possible etc. But not at all helpful for the I felt violated issues that I was dealing with.

    Edit: I think that having a VBAC board kind of solves that though.

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    imageStrawberrywine:

    I think we're missing the point.

     I understand exactly what she's saying. She wants a place where people can openly discuss c/s without jumping into a VBAC board. A place where moms are experiencing a c/s for the first time, or finding out that they'll be experiencing it everytime. 

    A safe c/s place. Makes sense to me.

    I agree with you. I received a lot of unhelpful, "be glad that your babies are healthy," posts on the regular month boards. It was very helpful for things like how to care for the incision, make sure that you walk as soon as possible etc. But not at all helpful for the I felt violated issues that I was dealing with.

    Edit: I think that having a VBAC board kind of solves that though.

    I think there are a lot of us here on the VBAC board who have heard those same things (just be thankful your baby is healthy, etc) and dealt with a lot of emotional issues.  I hope this board can be a place of support for people dealing with those things as well.

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  • I think this is a great board for any type of c/s issue. be emotional, vbac, repeat, 1st timers, etc. I have seemed to get the most support, help and encouragement from this board than any other one i have browsed through. I didn't like the responces I got from asking in another board. Everyone mostly just said "that is for the VBAC board", even when i wanted to vent about my first appt experience in another board where everyone else was sharing their experiences. I also feel comfortable here since I know I am not the only one who has at least one child.

    Maybe because is says VBAC that it may feel like other c/s issues aren't welcome but assure you, this is the best place to be for any and all c/s questions. Or if you just plain need support.

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     I didn't like the responces I got from asking in another board. Everyone mostly just said "that is for the VBAC board", even when i wanted to vent about my first appt experience in another board where everyone else was sharing their experiences.

    Wait, who said that to you? I'm sorry. They're total jerks.

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    imageSazhrah:

     I didn't like the responces I got from asking in another board. Everyone mostly just said "that is for the VBAC board", even when i wanted to vent about my first appt experience in another board where everyone else was sharing their experiences.

    Wait, who said that to you? I'm sorry. They're total jerks.

    Lol. No names need to be mentioned. But this is the only board that feels comfortable to me. Other places feel more like testaments to "sticky" babies after months or years of trying, which I support completely but have never been in that position and since this is my 6th child I have had more experience with child bearing, birth and raising I feel completely out of league. I hope other women can feel the way that I do and share openly their legitimate fears, concerns or joys of having a c/s experience no matter what.

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    imagemargeincharge2:
    imageSazhrah:

     I didn't like the responces I got from asking in another board. Everyone mostly just said "that is for the VBAC board", even when i wanted to vent about my first appt experience in another board where everyone else was sharing their experiences.

    Wait, who said that to you? I'm sorry. They're total jerks.

    Lol. No names need to be mentioned. But this is the only board that feels comfortable to me. Other places feel more like testaments to "sticky" babies after months or years of trying, which I support completely but have never been in that position and since this is my 6th child I have had more experience with child bearing, birth and raising I feel completely out of league. I hope other women can feel the way that I do and share openly their legitimate fears, concerns or joys of having a c/s experience no matter what.

    Wow, 6 babies! Kudos to you. Will this be your first vbac attempt?

    I see what you're saying.

    This is one of the reasons that I think a c/s board would pull from the VBAC board and more or less be duplicative. Obviously, there are post-partum care issues that aren't quite as relevant here. But that type of stuff can be gotten from the 0-3 board. Or here if someone really wants but those who just went through it would be most helpful.

    But I think a lot of the emotional issues women deal with post-c/s is something I think all of us can relate to. Whether or not a mama is hoping for a vbac, not yet ttc, or about to have their baby, I think they all fit under our umbrella.

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    imageSazhrah:
    imagemargeincharge2:
    imageSazhrah:

     I didn't like the responces I got from asking in another board. Everyone mostly just said "that is for the VBAC board", even when i wanted to vent about my first appt experience in another board where everyone else was sharing their experiences.

    Wait, who said that to you? I'm sorry. They're total jerks.

    Lol. No names need to be mentioned. But this is the only board that feels comfortable to me. Other places feel more like testaments to "sticky" babies after months or years of trying, which I support completely but have never been in that position and since this is my 6th child I have had more experience with child bearing, birth and raising I feel completely out of league. I hope other women can feel the way that I do and share openly their legitimate fears, concerns or joys of having a c/s experience no matter what.

    Wow, 6 babies! Kudos to you. Will this be your first vbac attempt?

    I see what you're saying.

    This is one of the reasons that I think a c/s board would pull from the VBAC board and more or less be duplicative. Obviously, there are post-partum care issues that aren't quite as relevant here. But that type of stuff can be gotten from the 0-3 board. Or here if someone really wants but those who just went through it would be most helpful.

    But I think a lot of the emotional issues women deal with post-c/s is something I think all of us can relate to. Whether or not a mama is hoping for a vbac, not yet ttc, or about to have their baby, I think they all fit under our umbrella.

    Lol. I know lot's of babies. Thought I would try and make my own baseball team or inhabit a deserted island somewhere. lol. This is my first vbac attempt. My last child was a c/s and i am scared to death of having a repeat c/s but i have been informed that a vbac attempt is almost impossible where i live.

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