Success after IF

thank you: re BF versus formula

LO is gaining weight appropriately.  LO still has a bad latch which makes BF difficult and I have very forceful letdown, so I have to lean back when BF etc.  I worked with an LC for 6 weeks at the beginning to be able to latch, but no matter what I do, he still does not latch great.  I really have to work to get him to latch properly still.

I will continue to BF and see how the zantac works

Thanks!

Re: thank you: re BF versus formula

  • just read your previous post.  Good suggestion on feeding from bottles that someone said might cause gas.  Which bottles are you using?

    I disagree with some on that other post as my diet seriously affects LO (both of them).  DD is spitting up more than DS ever did.  It is weird.  She sometimes does it 1 hr or more after eating.  We have a few days free of spit up so far....she was sick so that didnt help.

    I am back to eating some dairy at 7wks, but very little.  I drank a tiny bit of beer the other day and she threw up so I think she didnt like the taste.  I know my son threw up one time when I ate about 3 cups of green tea with honey.  Sometimes they just eat something that disagrees with their stomach.  I ate carrots one day and she was gassy for days...same with some chinese food and it wasnt spicy.

    I hope the zantac works.  I find the only thing that helps DD with the spitup is sitting upright awhile after feeding and burping well.  Honestly she hasn't burped in the past two days and I hope I am done with the burping since it is so hard to do sometimes. 

    I do agree with the other people that formula is expensive and may still cause spit up issues. 

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  • Have you tried a nipple shield? My son had problems latching too but the nipple shield solved that right away. Most LC's advice against it in case you don't have one on hand and you need to BF right away but I went against their advice.

    Kudos to you for continuing to BF. I gave up way to soon, about 6 weeks and I still regret it to this day. Yes, my son is thriving and healthy and on formula (well now he's on cows milk) BUT I wish I had gone longer.

    Like I said, give the nipple shield a try and see how that works. GL!

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  • This is the advice I got re: forceful letdown and gas.  The lactation consultant I talked to said that the best way to get your body to stop overproducing is to only feed from one side for two feedings in a row (like instead of 10 minutes left and 10 right, do the full 20-30 minutes feeding to one), then switch to the other side for the next two feedings and so on.  Also, don't pump in between - only pump when he would have otherwise had a feeding.  Once things seem to regulate you can taper off slowly by doing one feeding on one side, then the next on the other side and so on and eventually go back to the 10 and 10.  It worked like a charm - after about a couple of days or so, her gas was gone and I could go back to regular two sided feeding in a week or two.  We didn't find anything else that worked - the drops, the gripewater, nothing.  Sometimes it's also just an age thing, apparently, too, and they just grow out of it.   

     

    ETA:  Not sure what is happening with my fonts there...  One more thing that the pedi did suggest was no movement/vibration after feeding so no bouncers with the vibe on, etc., but yes, sitting upright. 

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  • One of the very best resources for breastfeeing information is Dr. Jack Newman's website.  His site is better than kellymom.com, IMO.

    The latching videos, in particular, helped me tremendously when I was having problems with Caroline's latch. 

    He also has lots of info about overactive letdown, and fussiness/gassiness in babies. 

    https://nbci.ca/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=5&Itemid=17

    Hope that helps!!

     

  • If the zantac doesn't work, ask for prevacid.  Dd was like a new baby is less than a week after starting. 

    As long as he's gaining weight and happy, I wouldn't be too worried.  Some babies are just spitters.  My friend's little guy went through a minimum of 4 outfits a day, but is happy as can be and is a little chunker! 

    If you are pumping and giving bottles, stop and burp frequently.  We had to stop after every ounce and burp dd, until she was about 6 months old.  It made feedings really long, but I worked too hard to pump that milk for her to spit it up :)  She also sat upright for a minimum of 30 minutes after each feeding. 

    Once she started solids, she stopped spitting up as much.  There is light at the end of the tunnel!  And hang in there, I know how frustrating feeding issues can be!

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  • I had a spitter...no I had a PUKER!  It was horrible.  But what got me through it was knowing that breastmilk was probably easier to puke up than the formula and I firmly believe the benefits to breastmilk far outweighed the risk of him puking (babies losing weight or getting a failure to thrive label are in a different category).  I never really cut out anything (well, I cut out obvious dairy, didn't drink caffeine/chocolate, etc) and I did try the Zantac/Prevacid combo for a little while, but he eventually outgrew the puking without the medications and we continued to breastfeed for over 2 years!!!  Looking back, I did have a HUGE and powerful letdown and I made lots of milk, so I wonder if all of that puking was him taking in too much and too fast.  We'll see how baby #2 does with breastfeeding :-)

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  • just saw this and the previous post--i'll second what everyone else says about how breastmilk is the easiest to digest substance that you can give your baby.

    my baby has had latching issues too so i know how frustrating it is. if that's really driving you crazy, you could consider switching to pumping and bottle feeding. the problem with that is that babies swallow more air when they drink from a bottle, but it would definitely be better than a bottle with formula.

    good luck! it sounds like a really stressful situation, hang in there. 

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