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Can you "sleep train" for STTN?

So today is my first day back at work.  (tear)  Anyway, my 12w boys have been getting up every night around 4am for a feeding.  They usually go 4-5 hour between feedings, but they've gone as many as 6, so I know they can do it.

I'd usually sooth, reswaddle, nuk, and try to stretch the 4am to 5am in the hopes of "teaching" them that they can go longer.

While I didn't mind spending this hour getting cat naps on the floor before spending the time to actually feed them, it's not super feasible now that I have to work all day.  (But I'll totally keep doing it if it'll get them to STTN sooner.)

So what do you think?  Is STTN something you can "train" them to do?  Or will they just magically do it one day when they're ready and I shouldn't waste my time trying?  TIA!

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Re: Can you "sleep train" for STTN?

  • You absolutely can, but I don't know if they're a bit young for it still. I didn't do it until 6.5 months, but only because I was scared to drop a middle of the night bottle. There's a book that might help - Healthy Sleep Habits, Healthy Twins or something like that. They only had the singleton version when the boys were tiny. ;)
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  • What time are you putting them to bed at night?  Sounds like you are doing 11pm-midnight?  Maybe they are ready to start moving bedtime a little earlier, bit by bit.  Usually the first stretch of night sleep is longest, and they may sleep longer (still up at 4am) if you put them down earlier.

    4-5am is a very common time for babies to wake for a feeding, and actually it's not bad at all.  I spent months going to bed very soon after babies did at 9:30, or 8:30, or whatever it was.  They moved earlier and earlier for months.

    GL, and I second buying HSH, HC (or the twin version).

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    What time are you putting them to bed at night?  Sounds like you are doing 11pm-midnight?  Maybe they are ready to start moving bedtime a little earlier, bit by bit.  Usually the first stretch of night sleep is longest, and they may sleep longer (still up at 4am) if you put them down earlier.

    4-5am is a very common time for babies to wake for a feeding, and actually it's not bad at all.  I spent months going to bed very soon after babies did at 9:30, or 8:30, or whatever it was.  They moved earlier and earlier for months.

    GL, and I second buying HSH, HC (or the twin version).

    We put them to bed at 7:30, wake them to eat at 11:30 (before I go to bed), they wake at 4:00, and finally around 7:00 for the day. 

    It's that 11:30-4:00 that I'm trying to extend.  We've done as early as 11:00 and as late at 12:15, and they still wake up at 4:00. 

    Interesting about that first chunk being the longest.  We tried just letting them sleep after we put them to bed, but then they'd wake up at 1:00 and still 4:00, and I'd have to get up twice.  But that was a several weeks ago, so it might be worth it to try again now that they are older.

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  • They're still young for sleep training. I also agree with getting Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child and/or the twins version (I have read, and love, both).
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  • You can slowly reduce the amount they are getting fed at the 4:00am feeding if you shift those ounces to the daytime.  As long as they are getting at least 24 oz during the day, they should be able to go without eating overnight.

    You can drop them by an ounce every four or five days and continue to swaddle, shush, bink etc.  They will learn that they can sleep through in a couple of week's time.

    This is Suzy Giordano's method.  It worked great for all three of my children.

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    What time are you putting them to bed at night?  Sounds like you are doing 11pm-midnight?  Maybe they are ready to start moving bedtime a little earlier, bit by bit.  Usually the first stretch of night sleep is longest, and they may sleep longer (still up at 4am) if you put them down earlier.

    4-5am is a very common time for babies to wake for a feeding, and actually it's not bad at all.  I spent months going to bed very soon after babies did at 9:30, or 8:30, or whatever it was.  They moved earlier and earlier for months.

    GL, and I second buying HSH, HC (or the twin version).

    We put them to bed at 7:30, wake them to eat at 11:30 (before I go to bed), they wake at 4:00, and finally around 7:00 for the day. 

    It's that 11:30-4:00 that I'm trying to extend.  We've done as early as 11:00 and as late at 12:15, and they still wake up at 4:00. 

    Interesting about that first chunk being the longest.  We tried just letting them sleep after we put them to bed, but then they'd wake up at 1:00 and still 4:00, and I'd have to get up twice.  But that was a several weeks ago, so it might be worth it to try again now that they are older.

    The 7:30 bedtime, with 1am, 4am wake-ups sound really normal at that age.  I know going to bed at 7:30 kind of sucks, but if you're up for it, they might sleep longer than 1am now (or soon).

    I won't lie, things bounced back and forth for a while between 1 & 2 feedings for us.   

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  • I sleep trained by girls to sttn using A Baby Sleep Solution by Suzy Giordiano. I wasn't able to start until they were 9 weeks old adjusted because that is how long it took until they both met her criteria (at least 8 weeks old, weigh at least 9 lbs. and taking in at least 24oz. in a 24 hour period). Her plan does not use CIO to sleep train, but a modified CIO (only 3-5 min. at a time) to teach your babies to put themselves to sleep. It worked really well for my girls since they were so young and couldn't do CIO at their age. I was able to get them to drop all night feedings after about 3 weeks working with her plan.

    I highly recommend this book, it helped me so much. My DH was starting to travel at that time, so I was taking care of the girls by myself, day and night, 5 days a week and I needed to do something so we could all get more rest at night (I was starting to see and hear things from lack of sleep). It is a really easy read, it can be read in 2 hours so you can start working with it right away.

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  • we did sleep training from day 1 (sleep training does NOT = cio, in case some here think that's what it means).

    We followed baby wise with the twins and our singleton - all 3 of them were STTN at 8 weeks.... with just DS1 doing it we thought it could be a fluke- but with the twins doing it, too, on the same night at 8 weeks - we knew that babywise was to credit. Worked like a dream.

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