Babies: 6 - 9 Months

Violent kids (6 y/o related and longish)

Yesterday I let me 6 y/o DS go down the street to play at his friends house.  This is new for him, it was only the 2nd time he's been allowed down there.  There were a bunch of older kids in the driveway getting kind of rowdy, so I walked over there to go tell DS it was time to come home. (He was inside playing with the 6 y/o boy that lives there).

As I got there, DS walked out of the house with tears in his eyes.  I figured he and his friend had been arguing.  I asked him what was wrong, and he told me that the other boy "got a knife and told him he was going to cut him in the neck." WHAT?????  Not wanting to jump to crazy conclusions, I asked him again.  He repeated what he said.

Through many questions, I found out that the other boy got a boxcutter/razor knife and threatened to cut my DS in the neck, all b/c he wanted DS's scooter and he wouldn't give it to him.

I was LIVID.  Went down there, and told both the boy and him mom that he was not under any circumstances to come knock on my door anymore, that DS was NOT allowed to play with him any more.  The mom said she would handle the siutation on their end (once we had determined that what DS was the truth, thanks to the older brother, who's a teenager, telling us what he observed).

What is wrong with some kids?  I cannot believe a 6 year old had access to a knife, much less threatened my DS with it.  Would you guys have handled this situation any diffferently than I did?

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Re: Violent kids (6 y/o related and longish)

  • God, that is disturbing. I think you handled it well. I definitely wouldn't let DC spend time with that kid ever again.
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  • You handled it far better than I would have.  What the heck is this world coming to?!  Someone told me the other day that she saw a six year old chasing kids around on the playground with a hatchet.  A HATCHET!  Seriously. 
  • Holy crap!  You handled it better than I would have!  What did the other kids Mom say?  Just that she'd handle it?  Was she surprised? shocked? upset?
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  • I would say that kiddo is watching some innapropriate television for his age.  If that had happened in a school,it could be considered a criminal threat and he could be in trouble with the police.  I don't know about what happens if it's in a home. 

    The problem is kids don't realize what they're saying.  I teach 6th grade and when we're talking about punishment throughout history I always take the time to mention in Kansas, spanking is legal for parents and schools.  Now I don't know any school that does, but it is legal.  I tell kids that it makes me grumpy when I hear kids say things like, "I'll call the cops/sue my parents if they spank me"  A parent can do discipline, they can't abuse. Parents need to keep kids in check. 

  • You can't solely blame the child - it has to start somewhere, and it starts with the parents.

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  • The mom didn't actually seem all that surprised. 

    I also know for a fact that this boy is allowed to play violent video games on his PS3 (DS told me he plays Splinter Cell and Grand Theft Auto a lot).  He plays the type of games I would NEVER allow a 6 year old to play.  I told DS that if the boy started playing those games while he was there, he needed to come home.  Which he did once before and again yesterday. (this knife incident happened when the boy came back to ask DS to play again after DS left b/c of the games).

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  • You did what I would do.

    We have a problem with kids in our neighborhood too. Connor does not play with them since we want our kids working on their homework and studying first, playing second. The kids around our house are not safe to be around. Well, the kids (3rd grade to jr. high) learned I am a cop and my house has been the target of several incidents. We have had our driveway, my car, and porch tagged with "Fvck the police!" "Fvck White People!" DH and I clean it up before our kids see it. The precinct we live in is a waste, has horrible response time so I just let my older brother know what's going on since he's on the homicide/gang unit for the county. He's got better intel than the local constables. The older brother of one of the kids is a suspected gang member.

    We've had knocking at late hours till 3am. I waited up one night after the 3rd time and heard kids laughing, "Yeah fvck the police! That biitch aint gonna do shiit! Fvcking pig!" (These are 8 to 10 year olds) I heard walking around the perimeter of the house when our fence was opened. I guess they were checking to see where the doors were to get in. I get my glock, flashlight and get to the front door. The kids come around again to the front porch, laughing and bragging about how they are gonna fvck my family up. I open the door, flashlight and gun up "Y'all picked the wrong damn house. The next time you come here, the police are the last on the list I'm calling. I know each of you, where you live and your gang ties. Don't come here again." The kids ran off scared. I can't stand it that my family isn't safe because of me being a cop, I hate this.

    When we brought Emma home from the hospital in December, I was in her nursery (upstairs) nursing her. Her glider is in front of the window. Thinking nothing of it, I'm focusing on her latching, chin position and is she eating enough. I heard a shot and glass break. It sounded very close to where I was. I turn around and it was her bedroom window. Had the window not had a double pane then it would have come through to us.

    I had enough! I finished Emma's nursing and went to the problem house where all of this is coming from. I moved to this subdivision because I heard the school had an excellent autism program and Connor needed that. I don't like being the police when I come home from being a detective. I hate this! I get to the door and the mother comes at me saying I have no proof, I'm picking on her children. Riight. The kids see me and admit they shot my window. DH is coming up behind me and he tells the parents the problems that we've had, been here for years and never had issues till they learn I'm a cop. I tell them they will replace my window and stay away from my family. Anything else happens to my family or property I will pursue charges and see them in court/jail.

    Things have been quiet since then.

  • imageguppysown@yahoo.com:

    I would say that kiddo is watching some innapropriate television for his age.  If that had happened in a school,it could be considered a criminal threat and he could be in trouble with the police.  I don't know about what happens if it's in a home. 

    The problem is kids don't realize what they're saying.  I teach 6th grade and when we're talking about punishment throughout history I always take the time to mention in Kansas, spanking is legal for parents and schools.  Now I don't know any school that does, but it is legal.  I tell kids that it makes me grumpy when I hear kids say things like, "I'll call the cops/sue my parents if they spank me"  A parent can do discipline, they can't abuse. Parents need to keep kids in check. 

    I used to hear this line all.the.time when a parent called for the police to come by their house due to out of control child. The child would wag their finger in my face, "They can't spank me! I'll call the police!" Really? Is that so? Who is going to take charges? No one I know. So I'd look at the parents and advise what CPS calls 'correct spanking' which is the area 6 inches above and below the butt. Get to spanking, as long as there is no breaking of the skin or severe bruising, have at it. It was amazing how many parents were bullied into thinking they would be punished for disciplining their child. I wish the schools would bring back spanking. Would solve a great deal of problems I'm seeing around our area.

  • Lilbit- that is horrible!!!  My brother is also a cop, and he has had things like that happen too, but not from kids.

    I cannot believe that stuff that some kids are getting into now.  I'm pretty sure at age 8 i had never even heard the word fvck, much less said it!  And instead of denying things, my mom would have had my asss whooped from here to the other side of the block! 

    I think a lot of it has to do with lax parenting.  It's always been much easier to let kids do whatever they want than to actually put in the time and effort to correctly discipline and raise your kids.

    I sure hope nothing else happens around your house!  That's pretty scary stuff.

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  • imagemickey1330:

    Lilbit- that is horrible!!!  My brother is also a cop, and he has had things like that happen too, but not from kids.

    I cannot believe that stuff that some kids are getting into now.  I'm pretty sure at age 8 i had never even heard the word fvck, much less said it!  And instead of denying things, my mom would have had my asss whooped from here to the other side of the block! 

    I think a lot of it has to do with lax parenting.  It's always been much easier to let kids do whatever they want than to actually put in the time and effort to correctly discipline and raise your kids.

    I sure hope nothing else happens around your house!  That's pretty scary stuff.

    It's crazy. I was so happy when I sold my house after DH and I got married and I switched from local police to state detective. Thinking, finally...no more uniform, no more walking target for my kids. Wrong. I worked a sting one day for the state shortly after moving in this subdivision and I was decked out in the black BDU's, combat boots, state police written everywhere and the kids saw me. Grreat. Downhill since then.

    When I grew up, I got spankings and a letter was sent to the school by my mom at the beginning of each year stating the school could spank us if we messed up. We knew better than to screw up at school. We knew we'd get it worse once we got home. We feared and respected our parents and elders. Everything out of our mouth was 'yes ma'am, no sir, excuse me please'. Now? I hardly ever hear manners come out of a child's mouth. I expect it out of my kids anywhere we go.

    I was so angry that I had to confront children at my house. Children my son's age. Not adults. I don't want to think that these kids were trying to impress their older gang affiliated siblings and gain status by targeting a cop. I don't let my kids outside at all. They can play in the backyard and that's it. I can't risk letting them go off somewhere out of my sight.

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