You know - they can think whatever they want. I know what Ellie and Humphrey mean and that's all that is important. Just because they don't understand the meaning doesn't make Ellie and Humphrey any less symbolic and meaningful to those who them in their siggies.
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You know - they can think whatever they want. I know what Ellie and Humphrey mean and that's all that is important. Just because they don't understand the meaning doesn't make Ellie and Humphrey any less symbolic and meaningful to those who them in their siggies.
I agree!
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Ladies do me a favor and don't post these here. Those girls will never see why we have the siggies that we have and this is just adding fuel to their fire. It isn't worth the sh!tstorm.
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Have you ever lurked on ML?? They're a pretty tough bunch so I'd take anything they say with a giant grain of salt. I saw that post and I just kind of gave it the side eye.
I also don't understand how a little icon in someone's siggy can be so annoying. Unless you post on any of the loss boards you probably don't come across tons of them all that often, so what's the big deal?
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And, I have a feeling that correcting them to tell them that Humphrey and Ellie are our board MASCOTS, not symbols of miscarriage, would only produce more jokes and criticism.
I don't get how people get off on ridiculing others like that. Seriously, talk about insecure!
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Eh, whatevs. If they want to make fun so be it. Unless you are a poster here I am sure it seems weird and dumb.
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Are we in hs? Really! It's kind of frustrating that we have to deal with ignorant and insensitive people IRL, but we have to also deal with it in the "virtual world" and be talked about behind our backs..
Oh well..I think they are cute, and I will be adding Humphrey to my siggy soon
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You know what I am glad that thier biggest worry in life is a dancing Elephant + Dragon. I hope that they never have to understand it. They can make fun all they want. They are the ones who look like jerks.
I say let em talk...it just makes them look petty and childish that they have nothing better to do than to call people with a dancing elephant in their siggy "unstable." I think it says alot about the women on THIS board that they encourage one another and lift each other up even when they are struggling with loss. They can kiss it as far as I am concerned.
Clearly they won't understand. I love how they accuse us of "defining ourselves by our losses". :::Giant eyeroll:::
These are also they people who ask "are you over it yet" or say "it was too early for you to get attached". It's sad that most people lack a decent amount of sensitivity.
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I say let em talk...it just makes them look petty and childish that they have nothing better to do than to call people with a dancing elephant in their siggy "unstable." I think it says alot about the women on THIS board that they encourage one another and lift each other up even when they are struggling with loss. They can kiss it as far as I am concerned.
You're absolutely right.
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Maybe I'm naive, but what kind of person lurks on a loss board (unless they have experienced a loss)? The ML ladies (and I use that term very loosely) sound as if they might like kicking puppies too. Oh well, can't explain what can never be understood.
BTW - I don't have my Humphrey yet, but will request mine once we start trying in October - so bite me ML board.
Maybe I'm naive, but what kind of person lurks on a loss board (unless they have experienced a loss)? The ML ladies (and I use that term very loosely) sound as if they might like kicking puppies too. Oh well, can't explain what can never be understood.
BTW - I don't have my Humphrey yet, but will request mine once we start trying in October - so bite me ML board.
You don't have to wait to get a Humphrey. Just click on the link in the bottom of my siggy. It will take you to our blog and there is a pink Humphrey dancing on there. Click on him and it will take you to the original post where CashewsMommy made a bunch of them. You can pick which one you like there
It is taking every ounce of self restraint to not rip a strip off them...I hope none of those ignorant wenches ever have to go through what we have in order to have a family...And they better just stay over in their ignorant little world and leave us alone...Or else I will not be nice!
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1. They have never been through a m/c and have no idea how much support this board gives its members.
2. They are jealous that they don't have any mascots to bond them together.
3. They are a bunch of judgemental b!tches.
I personally think its all of the above. I really hope they never have to go through anything like we have and never have to come over here but if one of them does......
I say let em talk...it just makes them look petty and childish that they have nothing better to do than to call people with a dancing elephant in their siggy "unstable." I think it says alot about the women on THIS board that they encourage one another and lift each other up even when they are struggling with loss. They can kiss it as far as I am concerned.
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Since I know ML is reading this thread, I'm at a loss as to how this seriously bothers you. Is having a board mascot really any different than posting siggy pics of board in-jokes or quotes that mean nothing except to a very select group of people? It's just something silly and fun. Yes, they have names, because it got tiring referring to them as "the dancing elephant GIF" or the "humping dragon GIF". (Get it? We're trying to conceive, he's humping....yes, it's silly and dumb, but it's not some ridiculous thing like you're making it out to be.) And it's not two mascots for one board. It's two mascots for two boards. We have a sub-board that Ellie represents. It's a silly little thing that shows solidarity for our fellow board members and lets us put a little fun in our siggy.
Regarding putting information about our losses in our siggys...no, we aren't dwelling on it. Though I think someone who has suffered six losses or someone that lost her daughter at 19 weeks certainly has a right to dwell....and I make absolutely no judgment on anyone who had earlier losses and is "still" upset about it. You say you had a loss? Fine. You clearly grieved differently. There is no right way or wrong way to grieve. Why are you judging someone for that? People get terribly upset when their dog dies, to which some might reply, "Dude, it's just a dog. Get over it." And that's not fair either. You don't know what that dog (or baby) represented to them.
Not to mention it helps us identify each other and respond to questions more easily when someone's loss history is spelled out in their siggy. Whenever someone asks a question, I immediately look at their siggy to see how their history might be relevant to the question that is asked.
Yes, we post on other boards. Shockingly, there's not an internet police that keeps us locked up here. We're normal people. We don't sit around in a corner and cry over our dead babies all the time, but it's nice to talk about trying to conceive with other people who get it. And god, no, we understand that we aren't the only women int he world with losses. Do we assume that people who are being insensitive haven't suffered one? Yes, because we'd hope that others in this sh!tty club might understand or not be so judgmental. But there are b!tches in every corner, even ours, so that assumption is obviously often wrong.
In short, does it really offend your retinas so much to see a small dancing dragon?? If so, maybe you need to get off the interwebz and find somewhere more suitable to your disposition, like a quiet library.
i havent read the thread on ML yet, but i started one this morning and then walked away from it about being annoyed by the dancing elephant. i later received an email from a friend of mine that is on your board explaining what the symbolism is behind it. so i am sorry for upsetting you all.
I just read the original thread, and asswipes. You're totally missing the point.
Humphrey is humping. It's not in memory of our losses.
Ellie is also not in memory of losses. It's because of the saying that women and elephants never forget. When an elephant loses a baby, the other elephants will band together and support her for as long as is needed for her to move on and start real life again. That's what it's symbolizing. Not the loss itself.
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Have you ever lurked on ML?? They're a pretty tough bunch so I'd take anything they say with a giant grain of salt. I saw that post and I just kind of gave it the side eye.
I also don't understand how a little icon in someone's siggy can be so annoying. Unless you post on any of the loss boards you probably don't come across tons of them all that often, so what's the big deal?
Wow. I can't believe the insensitivity.
And, I have a feeling that correcting them to tell them that Humphrey and Ellie are our board MASCOTS, not symbols of miscarriage, would only produce more jokes and criticism.
I don't get how people get off on ridiculing others like that. Seriously, talk about insecure!
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Are we in hs? Really! It's kind of frustrating that we have to deal with ignorant and insensitive people IRL, but we have to also deal with it in the "virtual world" and be talked about behind our backs..
Oh well..I think they are cute, and I will be adding Humphrey to my siggy soon
You know what I am glad that thier biggest worry in life is a dancing Elephant + Dragon. I hope that they never have to understand it. They can make fun all they want. They are the ones who look like jerks.
*mumbles nasty things toward them under breath*
Clearly they won't understand. I love how they accuse us of "defining ourselves by our losses". :::Giant eyeroll:::
These are also they people who ask "are you over it yet" or say "it was too early for you to get attached". It's sad that most people lack a decent amount of sensitivity.
Ridiculous! Does someone from our boards post over there or are they the losers who have nothing to do but talk sh!t and lurk on loss boards.
Seriously, they need to get over themselves. This isn't the first time a Nest board has attacked us.
You're absolutely right.
Maybe I'm naive, but what kind of person lurks on a loss board (unless they have experienced a loss)? The ML ladies (and I use that term very loosely) sound as if they might like kicking puppies too. Oh well, can't explain what can never be understood.
BTW - I don't have my Humphrey yet, but will request mine once we start trying in October - so bite me ML board.
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So it's either:
1. They have never been through a m/c and have no idea how much support this board gives its members.
2. They are jealous that they don't have any mascots to bond them together.
3. They are a bunch of judgemental b!tches.
I personally think its all of the above. I really hope they never have to go through anything like we have and never have to come over here but if one of them does......
Im just speechless....how dare them.
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Since I know ML is reading this thread, I'm at a loss as to how this seriously bothers you. Is having a board mascot really any different than posting siggy pics of board in-jokes or quotes that mean nothing except to a very select group of people? It's just something silly and fun. Yes, they have names, because it got tiring referring to them as "the dancing elephant GIF" or the "humping dragon GIF". (Get it? We're trying to conceive, he's humping....yes, it's silly and dumb, but it's not some ridiculous thing like you're making it out to be.) And it's not two mascots for one board. It's two mascots for two boards. We have a sub-board that Ellie represents. It's a silly little thing that shows solidarity for our fellow board members and lets us put a little fun in our siggy.
Regarding putting information about our losses in our siggys...no, we aren't dwelling on it. Though I think someone who has suffered six losses or someone that lost her daughter at 19 weeks certainly has a right to dwell....and I make absolutely no judgment on anyone who had earlier losses and is "still" upset about it. You say you had a loss? Fine. You clearly grieved differently. There is no right way or wrong way to grieve. Why are you judging someone for that? People get terribly upset when their dog dies, to which some might reply, "Dude, it's just a dog. Get over it." And that's not fair either. You don't know what that dog (or baby) represented to them.
Not to mention it helps us identify each other and respond to questions more easily when someone's loss history is spelled out in their siggy. Whenever someone asks a question, I immediately look at their siggy to see how their history might be relevant to the question that is asked.
Yes, we post on other boards. Shockingly, there's not an internet police that keeps us locked up here. We're normal people. We don't sit around in a corner and cry over our dead babies all the time, but it's nice to talk about trying to conceive with other people who get it. And god, no, we understand that we aren't the only women int he world with losses. Do we assume that people who are being insensitive haven't suffered one? Yes, because we'd hope that others in this sh!tty club might understand or not be so judgmental. But there are b!tches in every corner, even ours, so that assumption is obviously often wrong.
In short, does it really offend your retinas so much to see a small dancing dragon?? If so, maybe you need to get off the interwebz and find somewhere more suitable to your disposition, like a quiet library.
I just read the original thread, and asswipes. You're totally missing the point.
Humphrey is humping. It's not in memory of our losses.
Ellie is also not in memory of losses. It's because of the saying that women and elephants never forget. When an elephant loses a baby, the other elephants will band together and support her for as long as is needed for her to move on and start real life again. That's what it's symbolizing. Not the loss itself.