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3rd Trimester
19 Kids and counting...
opinions? i think baby josie was a sign that maybe its time to tie those tubes and actually raise the babies you have now instead of your older kids raising them. Just sayin. lol
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Re: 19 Kids and counting...
A + Life
Me:24 DH:27
TTC #2 since August 2011
DX: Low AMH 1.79 Mildly elevated FSH 9.9
1 month of Letrozole, 3 IUI's with Letrozole, All BFN. 1 canceled IVF cycle, BFN.
May 2013 IVF w/ICSI #1.5: Start BCP 5/8 2 pills a day. Suppression Ultrasound 5/29. Begin Dexamethasone & Lupron Microdose 5/31. Started Gonal F and Menopur 6/2.
ER 6/12 13R,9M,8F.
5DT CANCELLED due to moderate OHSS
5DT UNcancelled due to embryos not being capable of cryopreservation
Transfered 2 "poor quality" embryo's on 6/17
No frozen embryos.
Beta #1 6/25 6. Chemical Pregnancy confirmed. Beta #2 6/28 -1
Done trying
it is such a controversial issue. and of course this is only my opinion..... i was something on that show that she had pre-e with her first twins and had them preterm. they were child 2 and 3. she said that if she had stopped after that case of pre-e, she would not have all her wonderful children. well.... i get that they believe that if God wanted them not to have anymore kids, then she wouldnt get pregnant. but God also gave us free will to make decisions for ourselves. God created the person that discovered birth control, and He also created the people that discovered the new technologies in medical care.
my great grandmother died when her youngest was only 5. she had 13 kids and 4 m/c. so she was pregnant for most of her adult life. the dr's thought that she died from the pregnancies and births being too hard on her body.
i think that if they really wanted to be able to spend ample time with each child, and have healthy children, they need to stop. they need to use the free will that God gave us and stop having children.
Don't even get me started... They need to stop. There is NO way that every single one of their children gets the attention that they need from both of their parents EVERY day. It's just not physically possible. Especially now that they've had so many problems with the youngest baby. Are they good people? Yes, I truly believe that they are. However, I don't think they realize how their decisions are going to affect their children in the long run. Stop making babies and focus on raising the ones you already have!
I agree with you. while they have the right to have as many kids as they want, especially since they are not on any gov't assistance, she's had 19 kids! josie's premature birth is absolutely a sign she's overworking her uterus. it DOES get weaker with every pregnancy, and her age doesn't help either. they got very lucky she survived.
and the older kids do alot to help raise the younger ones. with that many kids, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to watch and care for them all on her own (I haven't seen or heard the mention of any nannies...)
I have to disagree with you on this. How many children even only children "get the attention they need from both of their parents everyday" ? Most children are ignored b/c parents are too busy with this and that and running here and there. Most children spend much of their time plopped in front of the tv and video games as a makeshift baby sitter when parents can't be bothered. They do far better with 19 kids than most do with 2. These kids are home schooled too. So rather than spending 7hrs away from home, they spend it learning from mom mostly. I just think you don't realize how much time they do get. They eat together, pray together, learn together etc They aren't involved in daily activities(soccer, ballet etc) outside the home. These are not busy kids and busy family outside the home, they are busy with each other. So if your reasoning is the only reason they should stop having kids then this world would only have about the half the people that it does b.c so few parents would qualify.
Heres a question. Would you feel differently if they had adopted these children rather than having their own?
I think they are amazing people and I think that josie was a tragedy that they just barely scraped by from. I dont put too much stock in what others do with their reproductive life unless it directly affects me...
Not trying to be mean or crazy here...but while God did create every person, including the person that discovered birth control, ect He also created the person that discovered abortion and it's pretty clear how He feels about that. God gave us the free will to decide what action we take, so is He okay with it if we murder or commit any other sin just because we have the free will?
I believe that this family is amazing. They truly believe in the Lord and follow His Word and put their faith and trust in Him to guide their family. They are awesome people and parents. They are basically raising their family like people did a long time ago (have lots of kids, homeschool, spend time as a family), minus the modern conveniences. They are a great family unit. I love how the kids work together and help. They are self-sufficient and don't rely on the government. I think it is up to them as to how many children they have. I know it wouldn't be for me, but I think they are doing a great job.
As compared to a lot of families in the world today. Have kids as a matter of convenience. Only have so many. Put them in daycare or school all day. Put them in front of TV, computer, video games, and put them in tons of activities. Don't teach them (especially Bible principles). Let them do what they want, be disrespectful, and most of all self-centered.
Then there are people who shouldn't have any kids (at least in their current situation). People who live off of the government yet keep having kids. Drug addicts, alcoholics, abusers, etc.
By comparison, I believe the Duggars are phenomenal.