Toddlers: 12 - 24 Months

Someone please help me. I am in tears.

I dont know what it up with DD. A few weeks ago she started waking once here and there I thought it was because of teething (her molars are coming in). It went from once here and there to every night, then several times a night. Now as of last night after I pick her up and soothe her, she wont even go back down.  I have been up with her since 2 am and she wont take her naps now either. She screams when I try. She would cry today when I would put her down, too on the floor, in her highchair to eat, etc.. Now she is screaming again in her crib. She is fed, warm dry, had mortin at 7 before bed, has her nightlight, sound machine and lovey. There is nothing I can do for her. If I pick her up she will calm and will just start again when I put her down. I am about to lose my mind. DH wont help me. I havent slept in 20 hours. I decided to try CIO and its been over 30 min and shes still screaming. I dont know what to do. If I give in I will have to start all over. Please help me.

Re: Someone please help me. I am in tears.

  • Maybe she has an ear infection? Try giving her tylenol and gas drops, when DD is super fussy and motrin doesn't cut it after a couple hours I try tylenol and gas drops (pedi said this is okay).  If you go back in her room just rub her back or do something to comfort her but don't pick her up.

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  • I tried that with her before, the rubbing her back. She just gets super pissed I am not picking her up and sits up and tries to climb my arm.
  • Can you co-sleep or bedshare for the night?  You need some rest too, maybe snuggling up with you will help you both get some rest?
  • Any temp?  I guess not with the Motrin but when it wears off I would take her temp.  Is there anyone that can come over and help you, a friend?  coworker?  someone?  You are at your breaking point. . .we've all been there and if DH won't help you MUST get someone to come over and help?  I know if I got that call from someone, even if I wasn't THAT close to them I would come over to help.  I would also say call a nurse advice line through your pediatrician or your insurance, they may want you to bring her in to check for UTI, ear infection etc. 

  • I am sorry! We are going through something similar for the past 6 days, where he will wake up every 2 hours, and is awful to get back down... He is getting teeth at the moment so we are hoping this is what it is. Is your DD teething? Getting close to walking or any other milestones? Fever?

    At its worse, DH and I took turns holding him in a chair upright asleep. We could at least doze off that way, and he would sleep with us. 

     Why won't your DH help? 

  • First, why wont your DH help out? She's his daughter too. Second if molars are coming thru that can be sheer hell. They can take a long time to completely come thru the gums, longer than the front teeth. Could she have an ear infection? If it continues tonight I would call her Pedi tomorrow and get her seen. But seriously, sounds like you need a break and your DH should help out. My husband gets up at 4:30 am and will still get up to help out in the middle of the night if I need it.
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    Any temp?  I guess not with the Motrin but when it wears off I would take her temp.  Is there anyone that can come over and help you, a friend?  coworker?  someone?  You are at your breaking point. . .we've all been there and if DH won't help you MUST get someone to come over and help?  I know if I got that call from someone, even if I wasn't THAT close to them I would come over to help.  I would also say call a nurse advice line through your pediatrician or your insurance, they may want you to bring her in to check for UTI, ear infection etc. 

    No I dont have anyone. I live an hour away from my family and my friends dont have kids and they wouldnt come over at this time anyway. I really dont think she's sick. It has been bullding for weels. She went through this bad separation anxiety phase around 8 mos right before she started STTN and was doing these same things. I just dont understand why its happening again at this age.

  • First, take a deep breath.  It is a little harder to do CIO on toddlers, but you can still do it.  You have to be very consistent.  Every time she goes to bed (naps, etc.) you have to just put her to bed and let her cry.  She will eventually learn how to put herself to sleep.  It is very difficult the first few nights.  Do you have a video monitor?  That helped me when I did CIO with my daughter.  As for tonight....try and get through it.  Like you said she is fed, warm, and taken care of so there should not be anything really wrong.  I did ferber with my daughter where I would go in every certain amount of minutes....and extended it....5 mins, then 10, etc.  I would get the ferber book if your interested in that.  You don't take them out of the crib, or anything...you just tell them you love them and that it is time to go to sleep.  I felt better doing it that way....but it takes a little longer to work than just letting them cio till they fall asleep without going in at all.  You can do this mommy!  Just be consistent.  If it is really bad don't feel bad if you don't get through it.  Just try it again.
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  • holy crap, I could have written this. Except with us, its been the past 2 months. She is teething, but weve had MAYBE 2 nights of total STTN. We too have done everything you have.  We see her pedi in a few weeks and plan on asking him, Ive lost it several times over this, one can only go so long with no sleep.
  • This happened to me the other week-for about two days straight, I thought it was her molars too, next day the babysitter called and she had a high temp-long story short the pedi said she had a sore throat and there were no other symptoms other than fussiness and a high fever.  For the next week she slept with me and DH camped out on the couch, but we were both well rested.  Maybe you should call the pedi tomorrow to see if there may be something that you could possibly be missing.  I'd try sharing the bed-at least you could get some sleep!
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    Can you co-sleep or bedshare for the night?  You need some rest too, maybe snuggling up with you will help you both get some rest?

    I agree with this. Even if you think it is just separation anxiety, just bring her to bed for some cuddles and both of you get some sleep. She is probably exhausted too, which is only making her more cranky and harder for her to settle down. I would also call the pedi and get her checked out, just in case.

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  • imagenic326:
    First, why wont your DH help out? She's his daughter too. Second if molars are coming thru that can be sheer hell. They can take a long time to completely come thru the gums, longer than the front teeth. Could she have an ear infection? If it continues tonight I would call her Pedi tomorrow and get her seen. But seriously, sounds like you need a break and your DH should help out. My husband gets up at 4:30 am and will still get up to help out in the middle of the night if I need it.

    I dont know. He has picked 3rd shift (by choice, he can have whatever shift he wants) since DD was born. So I neve had help at night. On the nights he is home though, he never helps. If she is screaming he actually gets up and goes downstairs so he doesnt have to hear it. He goes "I dont know, let her cry" or "You do what you think is best". I do all the feeding, bathing, bedtime....

  • Hang in there, Mama, you can do this.  My DH isn't tons of help either in these kinds of situations but has been getting better lately - those molars are tough to get through.

    DS went through this a few weeks ago, honestly we spent a lot of time going to sleep in our bed with the TV on a kids show. Once he was all the way asleep, I could move him... which would last about 4 hours maybe.  Then he would be awake again, and after a time or two of me trying to put him back down, he would be back in our bed. 

     If your DH doesn't want to cosleep, try the guest bedroom or couch - I've been there with DS, and it's better than nothing.  Last week, I went back to CIO for DS because he hasn't been acting like he was hurting as much, and that took a while for him to settle down. But while he's not feeling good, we just did what we had to. 

    Try orajel too, that may give her enough relief to finally fall asleep for a little while.  Ask DH to go get it tonight if you can, maybe that will help all of you.

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  • Can you maybe drive around with her?  I don't know it might not work because I doubt you could transfer her at this age to her crib without her waking up but it's a thought.  I had one night with this where I tried everything and eventually, out of desperation I changed her PJ's to something looser and she finally slept.  It was a little tight and stiffer than her other PJ's and maybe it had nothing to do with everything but when you're desperate. ..you are desperate.  I can say I have never ever put her in those PJ's since. 
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    imagenic326:
    First, why wont your DH help out? She's his daughter too. Second if molars are coming thru that can be sheer hell. They can take a long time to completely come thru the gums, longer than the front teeth. Could she have an ear infection? If it continues tonight I would call her Pedi tomorrow and get her seen. But seriously, sounds like you need a break and your DH should help out. My husband gets up at 4:30 am and will still get up to help out in the middle of the night if I need it.

    I dont know. He has picked 3rd shift (by choice, he can have whatever shift he wants) since DD was born. So I neve had help at night. On the nights he is home though, he never helps. If she is screaming he actually gets up and goes downstairs so he doesnt have to hear it. He goes "I dont know, let her cry" or "You do what you think is best". I do all the feeding, bathing, bedtime....

    Oh I want to give you a huge hug! No WONDER you're at the end of your rope. Please do yourself a huge favor and talk to him about what you need as far as help goes. It is hard raising a toddler and I couldnt imagine doing it without help. Hang in there, but seriously - talk to your husband. I would still check with the Pedi tomorrow too

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    imagenic326:
    First, why wont your DH help out? She's his daughter too. Second if molars are coming thru that can be sheer hell. They can take a long time to completely come thru the gums, longer than the front teeth. Could she have an ear infection? If it continues tonight I would call her Pedi tomorrow and get her seen. But seriously, sounds like you need a break and your DH should help out. My husband gets up at 4:30 am and will still get up to help out in the middle of the night if I need it.

    I dont know. He has picked 3rd shift (by choice, he can have whatever shift he wants) since DD was born. So I neve had help at night. On the nights he is home though, he never helps. If she is screaming he actually gets up and goes downstairs so he doesnt have to hear it. He goes "I dont know, let her cry" or "You do what you think is best". I do all the feeding, bathing, bedtime....

     

    You have to do what feels right to you (CIO or cuddle/bedshare) I, in your boat, would go for the cuddles/bedshare.

    If your DH isn't working tonight, he needs to help. It must feel exhausting to not have help, and you deserve help, and for him to participate in parenting. He can't just go downstairs and avoid his daughter in a time of need.

  • Thanks ladies :) I will call pedi in the morning. Usually when she is sick, she gets a super high temp and pukes from it. But maybe the pedi will have some suggestions how to handle this. I also think DH and I need to have a long talk. I want a second one. But I cant bear the thought of doing this all alone again. And I hate to not have the second one I want for such a senseless reason. It shouldnt even be an issue.
  • Take her to the pedi. That sounds like an ear infection and all the CIO in the world isn't going to help her pain.  Pick her up and hold her all night if you have to.

    Hang in there! Nothing lasts forever, you know? 

    PS. I'm a bit concerned that your DH "won't help" you.  What's that about? I'm mad at him for you.

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  • I'm sorry you're going through this...we went through something similar around DD's 1st birthday when she was cutting all 4 molars at once. Unfortunately, it lasted about 2 weeks. Have you tried letting her CIO? I know it's super hard to do, but if you are sure that she's okay (clean, fed, not in pain, etc)...maybe she just needs to CIO? Also, when DD was going through this, I would put her in the crib (she has been STTN for months in her crib, so it's nothing new to her)...but when she would freak out if I left, I would lay down on her floor so she could see me, then gradually move further towards the door, then eventually she'd fall asleep and I snuck out. Every night, I'd put her in the crib but lay down further way from her crib. Then whatever she was, she eventually got over it.
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  • DS is this way when its his molars he was inconsolable all last week we all got no sleep no choice but to cry together. Im so sorry DH wont help that is Fvcked Hang in there take a breath you know she is safe in her crib walk away if you need to and if it dosent start getting better maybe go to the doc and see if its an ear infection. Your not alone hang in there!
  • Are we married to the same person?! My DH has put me through this kind of crap before too (he has since wised up a bit) so first let me say that I am so sorry. I also know what its like to have no family around and friends with no kids! We're in Ohio, family is in Texas :( I would take the advice of going to see Pedi just to check everything out (ears, UTI, etc...) so you can safely rule health issues out. Second have you heard about SleepEasy Solution? I did it two months ago with my DS and in 5 days he became a CHAMPION sleeper! I'm talking naps and nighttime! You can read the book (who has time for that?) or watch the DVD. I had a friend of mine recommended it who was at the end of her rope (why I tried it too) and I've been recommending it ever since. It couldn't hurt to try it and I loved it because it was a very caring approach to helping my DS sleep. He sleeps 11 hours a night now and 2-3.5 hrs total in naps everyday. Good luck with everything and I hope your little one is healthy and you both start getting the sleep you need!
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    I'm sorry you're going through this...we went through something similar around DD's 1st birthday when she was cutting all 4 molars at once. Unfortunately, it lasted about 2 weeks. Have you tried letting her CIO? I know it's super hard to do, but if you are sure that she's okay (clean, fed, not in pain, etc)...maybe she just needs to CIO? Also, when DD was going through this, I would put her in the crib (she has been STTN for months in her crib, so it's nothing new to her)...but when she would freak out if I left, I would lay down on her floor so she could see me, then gradually move further towards the door, then eventually she'd fall asleep and I snuck out. Every night, I'd put her in the crib but lay down further way from her crib. Then whatever she was, she eventually got over it.

    I really didnt want to CIO, but I dont know what else to do. She iniitally goes down in her crib no problem, she just wakes later and wont go back down.I think its my fault I gave in more and more over the past couple weeks and now I created this habit with her of seeing me overnight again. Last night after trying to put her down threes time and giving a bottle, motrin and changing diaper, I just sat in a recliner and held her while she slept til 5 am.  I feel so guilty, but I have to go to work tomorrow, I cant not sleep again and be able to function at work. She has one molar in and one that poked through and I hard bump where the 3rd will be, so hopefully this is over soon :(

  • imageg8orell:
    I'm sorry you're going through this...we went through something similar around DD's 1st birthday when she was cutting all 4 molars at once. Unfortunately, it lasted about 2 weeks. Have you tried letting her CIO? I know it's super hard to do, but if you are sure that she's okay (clean, fed, not in pain, etc)...maybe she just needs to CIO? Also, when DD was going through this, I would put her in the crib (she has been STTN for months in her crib, so it's nothing new to her)...but when she would freak out if I left, I would lay down on her floor so she could see me, then gradually move further towards the door, then eventually she'd fall asleep and I snuck out. Every night, I'd put her in the crib but lay down further way from her crib. Then whatever she was, she eventually got over it.

    I really didnt want to CIO, but I dont know what else to do. She iniitally goes down in her crib no problem, she just wakes later and wont go back down.I think its my fault I gave in more and more over the past couple weeks and now I created this habit with her of seeing me overnight again. Last night after trying to put her down threes time and giving a bottle, motrin and changing diaper, I just sat in a recliner and held her while she slept til 5 am.  I feel so guilty, but I have to go to work tomorrow, I cant not sleep again and be able to function at work. She has one molar in and one that poked through and I hard bump where the 3rd will be, so hopefully this is over soon :(

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    imagenic326:
    First, why wont your DH help out? She's his daughter too. Second if molars are coming thru that can be sheer hell. They can take a long time to completely come thru the gums, longer than the front teeth. Could she have an ear infection? If it continues tonight I would call her Pedi tomorrow and get her seen. But seriously, sounds like you need a break and your DH should help out. My husband gets up at 4:30 am and will still get up to help out in the middle of the night if I need it.

    I dont know. He has picked 3rd shift (by choice, he can have whatever shift he wants) since DD was born. So I neve had help at night. On the nights he is home though, he never helps. If she is screaming he actually gets up and goes downstairs so he doesnt have to hear it. He goes "I dont know, let her cry" or "You do what you think is best". I do all the feeding, bathing, bedtime....

    That's horrible.  Doesn't he know how much you will resent him for this in the long run.  This is one of the reasons my ExH and I got divorced.  He should help it's his daughter.   I feel bad for people when they go through this.  I hope she settles soon.
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    imageg8orell:
    I'm sorry you're going through this...we went through something similar around DD's 1st birthday when she was cutting all 4 molars at once. Unfortunately, it lasted about 2 weeks. Have you tried letting her CIO? I know it's super hard to do, but if you are sure that she's okay (clean, fed, not in pain, etc)...maybe she just needs to CIO? Also, when DD was going through this, I would put her in the crib (she has been STTN for months in her crib, so it's nothing new to her)...but when she would freak out if I left, I would lay down on her floor so she could see me, then gradually move further towards the door, then eventually she'd fall asleep and I snuck out. Every night, I'd put her in the crib but lay down further way from her crib. Then whatever she was, she eventually got over it.

    I really didnt want to CIO, but I dont know what else to do. She iniitally goes down in her crib no problem, she just wakes later and wont go back down.I think its my fault I gave in more and more over the past couple weeks and now I created this habit with her of seeing me overnight again. Last night after trying to put her down threes time and giving a bottle, motrin and changing diaper, I just sat in a recliner and held her while she slept til 5 am.  I feel so guilty, but I have to go to work tomorrow, I cant not sleep again and be able to function at work. She has one molar in and one that poked through and I hard bump where the 3rd will be, so hopefully this is over soon :(

    If you don't want to CIO (totally understandable), why not try that extinction technique that I did? I think maybe you did create a habit by picking her up and consoling her (not flaming you, I've done it too...it's only natural)...but I think it needs to end or it's gonna get worse! When she wakes up...go in and rub her and "shhhh" her for a few minutes and if she doens't let you leave, sit/lie down on the floor next to her crib so she can see you...but don't talk to her or touch her. She'll probably cry for a few minutes, but ignore her. Eventually she'll fall asleep...it may take an hour or so, but when she does, quietly sneak out. Then tomorrow, sit further away from her crib.

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    imageJimsgirl5821:

    imagenic326:
    First, why wont your DH help out? She's his daughter too. Second if molars are coming thru that can be sheer hell. They can take a long time to completely come thru the gums, longer than the front teeth. Could she have an ear infection? If it continues tonight I would call her Pedi tomorrow and get her seen. But seriously, sounds like you need a break and your DH should help out. My husband gets up at 4:30 am and will still get up to help out in the middle of the night if I need it.

    I dont know. He has picked 3rd shift (by choice, he can have whatever shift he wants) since DD was born. So I neve had help at night. On the nights he is home though, he never helps. If she is screaming he actually gets up and goes downstairs so he doesnt have to hear it. He goes "I dont know, let her cry" or "You do what you think is best". I do all the feeding, bathing, bedtime....

    That's horrible.  Doesn't he know how much you will resent him for this in the long run.  This is one of the reasons my ExH and I got divorced.  He should help it's his daughter.   I feel bad for people when they go through this.  I hope she settles soon.

    At first he was super nervous with her (hes a big guy, shes so small) and he was afraid of doing things with her. Then it became habit or assumed I would do everything. Dont get me wrong, he spends lots of time with her and he loves her to death, just the  "work" part is all left to me and yes I do harbor a lot of resentment and he has no idea. And then I feel guilty like its my fault too for not saying anything, I feel like its just opening a can of worms to bring up year-old resentment. For the most part it's fine, just the resentment crops up when there is a rough-phase like this. Ordinarily she is a super easy baby - sleeps 7-6:30 am and naps 4 hours a day.

  • I fell into a pattern of resenting DH too when (in the beginning) would not do his share of parenting responsibilites (and I am SAHM). And it got really bad and I found myself getting angrier and angrier. Some of the time it was easier to just do it myself to avoid an argument or conflict. We finally had a huge fight that turned into a talk where I told him that I felt I was doing all the work and he wasnt doing his fair share. He agreed he could/should do more and also told me that I needed to ask for help too (which, to be fair, I didnt do very much). So now, he does do more and I also ASK him for help. Remember, some men dont always know when to jump in and help. It has done wonders for us and our marriage
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    At first he was super nervous with her (hes a big guy, shes so small) and he was afraid of doing things with her. Then it became habit or assumed I would do everything. Dont get me wrong, he spends lots of time with her and he loves her to death, just the  "work" part is all left to me and yes I do harbor a lot of resentment and he has no idea. And then I feel guilty like its my fault too for not saying anything, I feel like its just opening a can of worms to bring up year-old resentment. For the most part it's fine, just the resentment crops up when there is a rough-phase like this. Ordinarily she is a super easy baby - sleeps 7-6:30 am and naps 4 hours a day.

    It's time to talk.  My advice (and I'm no expert) would be to sit down, and very openly explain to him exactly how you feel.  The resentment, the overwhelmed-ness (yes I know that isn't a word, but I've had a bottle of wine, so it's a  word tonight) and tell him you're not accusing him of anything, because you never told him what you needed from him, but now you are.  I've found in arguments/discussions with DH where I need him to do more, if I acknowledge that I should've said something sooner, that it helps.  He feels less attacked, and more "needed" and therefore, being the guy he is, does his absolute best to help me with what I need!  Good luck Mama!  I hope you and DD are already asleep now!

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    holy crap, I could have written this. Except with us, its been the past 2 months. She is teething, but weve had MAYBE 2 nights of total STTN. We too have done everything you have.  We see her pedi in a few weeks and plan on asking him, Ive lost it several times over this, one can only go so long with no sleep.

     

    exactly this.! I need sleep! IT has to be teeth, right? 

  • I am coming to this late.  My middle child was like this.  I could not do CIo because it just worsened his anxiety about being in his crib.  He would throw up he would cry so hard.  I read Good Night, Sleep Tight by Kim West.  It outlines a 'program' to get your child to go to sleep on their own.  it worked for us.  Get the book out of the library and see if it might work for you.  good luck!!!   I know how horrible it can be.
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  • No specific advice for your LO, but I just have to say that I've never understood the DH's that refuse to help with the "work" part of having a child. My DH put it this way: "You did all the work of 9-10 months (during pregnancy). It is only fair for the dad to put in his fair share."
  • She may have a ear infection like others have already stated. When DS had ear infection he never had a temp.

    Good luck, as for your husband tell him you need help, dont ask, just tell him. Tell him to step up a be a parent. 

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  • That sounds just like my DS when he was cutting his molars or when he had an ear infection. I hope you get some answers from the pedi. And don't be afraid to nod off yourself, even if its in the recliner holding her while she sleeps. We have done that many nights in this house when DS has not been feeling well.
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