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I am livid...

I was told tonight that my husband and the rest of the military are fighting in vain. And that the soldiers that have been killed have died for nothing. Lets see...what else...oh! That we have lost this war by taking all the troops out of Iraq. Last I checked there were still 50,000 there. I am so mad I am shaking.

And then we've got this idiot preacher down in Florida wanting to burn the Koran.  Does he not realize that he is putting the troops lives in worse danger by doing this. Or does he just not care.

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Re: I am livid...

  • I get pissed off at comments stating that all troops are out of Iraq, when it's just combat troops.  I have no words for that asshat preacher in FL, except for calling him an asshat.  TB won't let me say what I really want to say about him.

    Alas, being a mil wife makes you a target for ppl's idiocy.  Kinda comes with the job kwim?  You know YH isn't fighting in vain and that the media is only telling part of the story.  Focus on that.

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  • The sad thing is, is that the man that said that stuff is retired Navy. I wish people would think before they speak, but I know that's too much to ask.
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  • I would have punched him in the face. But then again I have no self control right now being almost 38 weeks pregnant lol
  • People are idiots.  Not only do we still have troops in Iraq, we DO still have combat troops there and will still have them there.   

     https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38944565/ns/politics-white_house/

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  • Yeah I love it when people tell me"Oh I support our troops just not the war." I usually follow that up with "which one?" and of course they respond "Oh both! We just need to get out of there."

    Im sorry I just dont understand how you can "support the troops" but not the war that they are voluntarily fighting. (This could totally just be me but I just dont get that logic). My favorite was when someone tried to tell me that 9-11 was a conspiracy and didnt really happen therefore all our troops are fighting in vain. Indifferent 

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  • I like to ask those people how much time they've actually spent in Iraq or Afghanistan. I hate when people try to tell us about the war based only on what they've seen in the media. 
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    Yeah I love it when people tell me"Oh I support our troops just not the war." I usually follow that up with "which one?" and of course they respond "Oh both! We just need to get out of there."

    Im sorry I just dont understand how you can "support the troops" but not the war that they are voluntarily fighting. (This could totally just be me but I just dont get that logic). My favorite was when someone tried to tell me that 9-11 was a conspiracy and didnt really happen therefore all our troops are fighting in vain. Indifferent 

    I support the troops but not the war and my dh says the same thing. I know dh voluntarily joined but that doesn't mean he has to agree with every thing the military does. To me supporting the troops not the war means you understand and recognize the sacrifice the troops are making for you but you don't have to agree with the reason why. I might not be explaining myself very well but I personally don't see it as an insult when someone says that.
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  • imagekaraknr:

    Yeah I love it when people tell me"Oh I support our troops just not the war." I usually follow that up with "which one?" and of course they respond "Oh both! We just need to get out of there."

    Im sorry I just dont understand how you can "support the troops" but not the war that they are voluntarily fighting. (This could totally just be me but I just dont get that logic). My favorite was when someone tried to tell me that 9-11 was a conspiracy and didnt really happen therefore all our troops are fighting in vain. Indifferent 

    Um...then where did the thousands of people go that were in the twin towers and the Pentagon and the plane that went down in the PA field? And where did the twin towers go? Maybe it's just an illusion. They're really there we just can't see them Confused Oh boy. That's nuts. 

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  • imageagis:
    imageanabell0920:
    imagekaraknr:

    Yeah I love it when people tell me"Oh I support our troops just not the war." I usually follow that up with "which one?" and of course they respond "Oh both! We just need to get out of there."

    Im sorry I just dont understand how you can "support the troops" but not the war that they are voluntarily fighting. (This could totally just be me but I just dont get that logic). My favorite was when someone tried to tell me that 9-11 was a conspiracy and didnt really happen therefore all our troops are fighting in vain. Indifferent 

    I support the troops but not the war and my dh says the same thing. I know dh voluntarily joined but that doesn't mean he has to agree with every thing the military does. To me supporting the troops not the war means you understand and recognize the sacrifice the troops are making for you but you don't have to agree with the reason why. I might not be explaining myself very well but I personally don't see it as an insult when someone says that.

    I completely understand this, so i think you explained it well.  I definitely do not support the wars (or any wars), but i appreciate those that serve because someone has to.  I do think it is a little ridiculous that they are using national guard troops as well as the IRR for these wars (not to mention all the involuntary recalls and the stop-loss issue).  Anyways, got side-tracked....i don't understand why that preacher wants to do what he's doing, but our laws allow him to (same as that mosque being built in ny).

    The National Guard was trained just the same as the Army. Same training. Same post. They are trained to fight and trained to kill just as any other soldier. It's not like they don't go through BCT and AIT just as anyone else. So why shouldn't they be fighting too?  My husband is a Combat Medic in the ARMY National Guard. He is active guard. Did you not know that their are active duty National Guard too? The National Guard is the only branch in the military that is dual owned. They are owned by the state as well as the nation. So once again. Why on earth should they not be fighting too? My husband is deploying for 18 months. And I'll ask AGAIN. Why shouldn't he be fighting?

    And the idiot preacher should not burn the Koran regardless of whether our laws allow him to or not. He's putting the soldiers lives as worse risk. 

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  • I understand where the PP's are coming from. I don't necessarily agree but that's ok. Agree to disagree:)

     As far as the 9-11 conspiracy theories go. yeah, idk wth those people are thinking.

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  • imageagis:
    imageanabell0920:
    imagekaraknr:

    Yeah I love it when people tell me"Oh I support our troops just not the war." I usually follow that up with "which one?" and of course they respond "Oh both! We just need to get out of there."

    Im sorry I just dont understand how you can "support the troops" but not the war that they are voluntarily fighting. (This could totally just be me but I just dont get that logic). My favorite was when someone tried to tell me that 9-11 was a conspiracy and didnt really happen therefore all our troops are fighting in vain. Indifferent 

    I support the troops but not the war and my dh says the same thing. I know dh voluntarily joined but that doesn't mean he has to agree with every thing the military does. To me supporting the troops not the war means you understand and recognize the sacrifice the troops are making for you but you don't have to agree with the reason why. I might not be explaining myself very well but I personally don't see it as an insult when someone says that.

    I completely understand this, so i think you explained it well.  I definitely do not support the wars (or any wars), but i appreciate those that serve because someone has to.  I do think it is a little ridiculous that they are using national guard troops as well as the IRR for these wars (not to mention all the involuntary recalls and the stop-loss issue).  Anyways, got side-tracked....i don't understand why that preacher wants to do what he's doing, but our laws allow him to (same as that mosque being built in ny).

    You do know the purpose of the IRR, right?  When you sign a contract with any branch, you sign a 8 year contract.  You choose how you serve it.  My contract was a 5/3.  I do 5 years and then 3 IRR.  H had a 4/4 contract before he re-enlisted.  You sign a contract accepting to go into the IRR and be called back at anytime if you are needed.  This isn't a new concept.  I don't know why people get upset about getting called up.  That is the entire purpose of the program and what they agreed to when they signed their contract. 

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    imageagis:
    imageanabell0920:
    imagekaraknr:

    Yeah I love it when people tell me"Oh I support our troops just not the war." I usually follow that up with "which one?" and of course they respond "Oh both! We just need to get out of there."

    Im sorry I just dont understand how you can "support the troops" but not the war that they are voluntarily fighting. (This could totally just be me but I just dont get that logic). My favorite was when someone tried to tell me that 9-11 was a conspiracy and didnt really happen therefore all our troops are fighting in vain. Indifferent 

    I support the troops but not the war and my dh says the same thing. I know dh voluntarily joined but that doesn't mean he has to agree with every thing the military does. To me supporting the troops not the war means you understand and recognize the sacrifice the troops are making for you but you don't have to agree with the reason why. I might not be explaining myself very well but I personally don't see it as an insult when someone says that.

    I completely understand this, so i think you explained it well.  I definitely do not support the wars (or any wars), but i appreciate those that serve because someone has to.  I do think it is a little ridiculous that they are using national guard troops as well as the IRR for these wars (not to mention all the involuntary recalls and the stop-loss issue).  Anyways, got side-tracked....i don't understand why that preacher wants to do what he's doing, but our laws allow him to (same as that mosque being built in ny).

    You do know the purpose of the IRR, right?  When you sign a contract with any branch, you sign a 8 year contract.  You choose how you serve it.  My contract was a 5/3.  I do 5 years and then 3 IRR.  H had a 4/4 contract before he re-enlisted.  You sign a contract accepting to go into the IRR and be called back at anytime if you are needed.  This isn't a new concept.  I don't know why people get upset about getting called up.  That is the entire purpose of the program and what they agreed to when they signed their contract. 

    Thank you. I was hoping I wasn't the only one offended by her saying that stuff.

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  • I get told so many hurtful things by people its just crazy.  ive had some people tell me they hope dh doesnt come back from afghan because hes a murderer and so many other things.  i went off on that one lady.

    people disgust me. 

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  • My sweet DH is doing something not many like him do. He is a muslim, and arab, fighting in a muslim war(s). He enlisted knowing exactly what he was doing.

    When people ask about my DH and what he does for a living, and I say proudly he is serving in the Army they are dumb founded how a muslim can be fighting "his own kind". He serves proudly and he serves with his WHOLE heart. It takes these men and women all they have to sign up/re-enlist in a time of war, imagine being a muslim/arab doing the same thing.

    Does this mean we support EVERYTHING in the war? Maybe, maybe not. But I know we support the cause and every single man and women trying to make a difference.

    There are men and women in all branches of the military, from all across the world who dont regret a thing about their job. I felt like it was my job to help teach people just how serious this is, but I soon realized I cant change the worlds mind.

    I do understand and usually agree that people are entitled to their opinion, but I dont agree that its okay for them to take things into their own hands. We have a government and a military for a reason.

    Forget about the haters ladies. I know its hard to brush it off. But do it in the name of our loved one. Lets focus on supporting our men and women.

     

     

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    I get told so many hurtful things by people its just crazy.  ive had some people tell me they hope dh doesnt come back from afghan because hes a murderer and so many other things.  i went off on that one lady.

    people disgust me. 

    Wow...I would have gone off on her too. That is a horrible thing to say. 

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    I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but this is pretty interesting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKX9TWRyfs

     

    I'm just wondering...are you even military?

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  • imageagis:

    I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but this is pretty interesting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI

    EDIT - wrong zeitgiest clip the first time.

     

     

    Yeah, a plane full of gasoline set on fire typically does cause a loud explosion....

    Really? I can't believe how many people buy this BS.

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  • imageagis:
    imagekaraknr:
    imageagis:

    I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but this is pretty interesting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI

    EDIT - wrong zeitgiest clip the first time.

     

     

    Yeah, a plane full of gasoline set on fire typically does cause a loud explosion....

    Really? I can't believe how many people buy this BS.

    It's crazy what people believe.  I'm sure there are still people out there that believe Obama isn't a U.S. citizen and that he's also a Muslim.

    Oh yeah. Some people...

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  • imageagis:

    I do think it is a little ridiculous that they are using national guard troops as well as the IRR for these wars  

    Hmm... You must be able to identify with the phrase "ignorance is bliss".  

  • If something happens to DH within a few days of that asshat burning the Koran, I will sue him!
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    imageagis:

    I do think it is a little ridiculous that they are using national guard troops as well as the IRR for these wars  

    Hmm... You must be able to identify with the phrase "ignorance is bliss".  

    And she won't respond to any of this. I just want to know if she's even military.

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  • imageJoBieger05:
    imagekaylasue89:
    imageagis:

    I do think it is a little ridiculous that they are using national guard troops as well as the IRR for these wars  

    Hmm... You must be able to identify with the phrase "ignorance is bliss".  

    And she won't respond to any of this. I just want to know if she's even military.

    I don't think she's military.

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  • imageJoBieger05:
    imagekaylasue89:
    imageagis:

    I do think it is a little ridiculous that they are using national guard troops as well as the IRR for these wars  

    Hmm... You must be able to identify with the phrase "ignorance is bliss".  

    And she won't respond to any of this. I just want to know if she's even military.

    I agree. I 'm starting to think that her "my husband is Muslim and Arab and fighting in Iraq" is MUD. If you go back and read through all her responses in this post, it sounds like she is trying too hard to agree with everyone else and fit in. She is overdoing it a bit. 

    But regardless, OP, I am very sorry for what was said to you. I think it is pitiful that Americans can even utter those words. Where would they be if it wasn't for the troops? I remember back in high school, this guy in my English class started saying the same thing. I had just found out the night before that one of my friends had been KIA in Afghanistan. I was actually asked to leave class because I was so irate!  

  • imagekaylasue89:
    imageJoBieger05:
    imagekaylasue89:
    imageagis:

    I do think it is a little ridiculous that they are using national guard troops as well as the IRR for these wars  

    Hmm... You must be able to identify with the phrase "ignorance is bliss".  

    And she won't respond to any of this. I just want to know if she's even military.

    I agree. I 'm starting to think that her "my husband is Muslim and Arab and fighting in Iraq" is MUD. If you go back and read through all her responses in this post, it sounds like she is trying too hard to agree with everyone else and fit in. She is overdoing it a bit. 

    But regardless, OP, I am very sorry for what was said to you. I think it is pitiful that Americans can even utter those words. Where would they be if it wasn't for the troops? I remember back in high school, this guy in my English class started saying the same thing. I had just found out the night before that one of my friends had been KIA in Afghanistan. I was actually asked to leave class because I was so irate!  

    The only person who wrote something about their DH being muslim and arab in the army is me. SO i dont know what your comment above is refering to? Because nobody responded to my quote, their response is to agis. And in case your wondering my husband is muslim and ARAB (hes moroccan) is currently deployed! Its not MUD!?! I mean for Gods sake, why would I say something like that if it werent true. I couldnt make it up if I wanted to. There are hundreds just like my husband. Who do you think translates?!!?

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    imagekaylasue89:
    imageJoBieger05:
    imagekaylasue89:
    imageagis:

    I do think it is a little ridiculous that they are using national guard troops as well as the IRR for these wars  

    Hmm... You must be able to identify with the phrase "ignorance is bliss".  

    And she won't respond to any of this. I just want to know if she's even military.

    I agree. I 'm starting to think that her "my husband is Muslim and Arab and fighting in Iraq" is MUD. If you go back and read through all her responses in this post, it sounds like she is trying too hard to agree with everyone else and fit in. She is overdoing it a bit. 

    But regardless, OP, I am very sorry for what was said to you. I think it is pitiful that Americans can even utter those words. Where would they be if it wasn't for the troops? I remember back in high school, this guy in my English class started saying the same thing. I had just found out the night before that one of my friends had been KIA in Afghanistan. I was actually asked to leave class because I was so irate!  

    The only person who wrote something about their DH being muslim and arab in the army is me. SO i dont know what your comment above is refering to? Because nobody responded to my quote, their response is to agis. And in case your wondering my husband is muslim and ARAB (hes moroccan) is currently deployed! Its not MUD!?! I mean for Gods sake, why would I say something like that if it werent true. I couldnt make it up if I wanted to. There are hundreds just like my husband. Who do you think translates?!!?

    I know it's not. And by the way your DD is so precious in your siggy. Adorable :o

    My aunt married a Muslim. They live in Saudi...unfortunately her life is awful. Thank your DH for his service for me. 

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  • imageDuckLover:
    imageJoBieger05:
    imagekaylasue89:
    imageagis:

    I do think it is a little ridiculous that they are using national guard troops as well as the IRR for these wars  

    Hmm... You must be able to identify with the phrase "ignorance is bliss".  

    And she won't respond to any of this. I just want to know if she's even military.

    I don't think she's military.

    She said in one post somewhere that her parents were, but I don't think she is either. It would explain her idiotic response that NG and IRR shouldn't be fighting. 

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  • imagekaylasue89:
    imageJoBieger05:
    imagekaylasue89:
    imageagis:

    I do think it is a little ridiculous that they are using national guard troops as well as the IRR for these wars  

    Hmm... You must be able to identify with the phrase "ignorance is bliss".  

    And she won't respond to any of this. I just want to know if she's even military.

    But regardless, OP, I am very sorry for what was said to you. I think it is pitiful that Americans can even utter those words. Where would they be if it wasn't for the troops? I remember back in high school, this guy in my English class started saying the same thing. I had just found out the night before that one of my friends had been KIA in Afghanistan. I was actually asked to leave class because I was so irate!  

    People are idiots. I wish they would think before speaking. It's the soldiers fighting and dying that are giving them the freedom to say crap like they do.

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    I am military.  We can agree to disagree about the use of troops.

    I have nothing against anyone that wants to "fight".  Like you mentioned earlier, that's the great thing about America.....we have the freedom to do what we want with our lives.

    So tell me...which troops are worthy enough to be used? Only active duty Air Force, Army, Marines, and Navy? All the Reservists and Air and Army National Guard must not be "good" enough. I said it once and I'll say it again. THEY ALL GET THE SAME TRAINING.

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  • imageagis:
    imageJoBieger05:
    imageagis:

    I am military.  We can agree to disagree about the use of troops.

    I have nothing against anyone that wants to "fight".  Like you mentioned earlier, that's the great thing about America.....we have the freedom to do what we want with our lives.

    So tell me...which troops are worthy enough to be used? Only active duty Air Force, Army, Marines, and Navy? All the Reservists and Air and Army National Guard must not be "good" enough. I said it once and I'll say it again. THEY ALL GET THE SAME TRAINING.

    Worthy enough to be used?  Not "good" enough?  Seriously???  What i am commenting on has NOTHING to do with a soldier's valor.  I stand by the idea that guardsmen should mainly be used, "to serve in their home communities - just one weekend per month, and one two-week period each year".   

    Wow. So what about the active duty guardsmen? Why should my Combat Medic AGR husband just serve his community one weekend a month? He's a COMBAT Medic. COMBAT. Combat = war. He went through 16 weeks of AIT to become one along with AD Army, Army Reservists, and Army National Guard. He chose the Army National Guard instead of the Army so he could not only serve his country, but also the state. He did not sign up for "one weekend a month and two weeks a year." But, I guess all the training he went through doesn't make him like an AD Army soldier. He works on an Army post. As well as a National Guard base. As well as a military training center. But, you don't think he should go to war? Wow. Just wow. 

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  • imageagis:
    imageJoBieger05:
    imageagis:

    I am military.  We can agree to disagree about the use of troops.

    I have nothing against anyone that wants to "fight".  Like you mentioned earlier, that's the great thing about America.....we have the freedom to do what we want with our lives.

    So tell me...which troops are worthy enough to be used? Only active duty Air Force, Army, Marines, and Navy? All the Reservists and Air and Army National Guard must not be "good" enough. I said it once and I'll say it again. THEY ALL GET THE SAME TRAINING.

    Worthy enough to be used?  Not "good" enough?  Seriously???  What i am commenting on has NOTHING to do with a soldier's valor.  I stand by the idea that guardsmen should mainly be used, "to serve in their home communities - just one weekend per month, and one two-week period each year".   

    Are you fuvking serious?!?!?! Why the hell would our country need people who just come in and march drill one weekend a month??? The WHOLE purpose of them going in 1 weekend a month is to keep them DEPLOYMENT ready so that they will be able to deploy whenever they are needed. The Government didnt just hire them to look pretty. Their entire purpose is to deploy or support deployment, like, oh IDK, THE REST OF THE MILITARY!!! You DO NOT sign up to be a reservist or guard thinking youre doing it just to pull in some extra cash. It's ENTIRE purpose is to pull from those people when the military needs them for a combat situation. Otherwise it would REALLY be a waste of government money.

    Anyone who signed up thinking they would never have to fight b.c they were not active duty was sorely mistaken. Not to mention most of these  guys/girls are HONORED to be able to fight for their country. That's typically why they signed up to begin with, so that they could have that chance.

    Your comment was so uninformed and ignorant that it's almost laughable. Maybe you should reconsider what 'being in the military' means.

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  • imagekaraknr:
    imageagis:
    imageJoBieger05:
    imageagis:

    I am military.  We can agree to disagree about the use of troops.

    I have nothing against anyone that wants to "fight".  Like you mentioned earlier, that's the great thing about America.....we have the freedom to do what we want with our lives.

    So tell me...which troops are worthy enough to be used? Only active duty Air Force, Army, Marines, and Navy? All the Reservists and Air and Army National Guard must not be "good" enough. I said it once and I'll say it again. THEY ALL GET THE SAME TRAINING.

    Worthy enough to be used?  Not "good" enough?  Seriously???  What i am commenting on has NOTHING to do with a soldier's valor.  I stand by the idea that guardsmen should mainly be used, "to serve in their home communities - just one weekend per month, and one two-week period each year".   

    Are you fuvking serious?!?!?! Why the hell would our country need people who just come in and march drill one weekend a month??? The WHOLE purpose of them going in 1 weekend a month is to keep them DEPLOYMENT ready so that they will be able to deploy whenever they are needed. The Government didnt just hire them to look pretty. Their entire purpose is to deploy or support deployment, like, oh IDK, THE REST OF THE MILITARY!!! You DO NOT sign up to be a reservist or guard thinking youre doing it just to pull in some extra cash. It's ENTIRE purpose is to pull from those people when the military needs them for a combat situation. Otherwise it would REALLY be a waste of government money.

    Anyone who signed up thinking they would never have to fight b.c they were not active duty was sorely mistaken. Not to mention most of these  guys/girls are HONORED to be able to fight for their country. That's typically why they signed up to begin with, so that they could have that chance.

    Your comment was so uninformed and ignorant that it's almost laughable. Maybe you should reconsider what 'being in the military' means.

    Thank you :o)

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  • imagekaraknr:
    imageagis:
    imageJoBieger05:
    imageagis:

    I am military.  We can agree to disagree about the use of troops.

    I have nothing against anyone that wants to "fight".  Like you mentioned earlier, that's the great thing about America.....we have the freedom to do what we want with our lives.

    So tell me...which troops are worthy enough to be used? Only active duty Air Force, Army, Marines, and Navy? All the Reservists and Air and Army National Guard must not be "good" enough. I said it once and I'll say it again. THEY ALL GET THE SAME TRAINING.

    Worthy enough to be used?  Not "good" enough?  Seriously???  What i am commenting on has NOTHING to do with a soldier's valor.  I stand by the idea that guardsmen should mainly be used, "to serve in their home communities - just one weekend per month, and one two-week period each year".   

    Are you fuvking serious?!?!?! Why the hell would our country need people who just come in and march drill one weekend a month??? The WHOLE purpose of them going in 1 weekend a month is to keep them DEPLOYMENT ready so that they will be able to deploy whenever they are needed. The Government didnt just hire them to look pretty. Their entire purpose is to deploy or support deployment, like, oh IDK, THE REST OF THE MILITARY!!! You DO NOT sign up to be a reservist or guard thinking youre doing it just to pull in some extra cash. It's ENTIRE purpose is to pull from those people when the military needs them for a combat situation. Otherwise it would REALLY be a waste of government money.

    Anyone who signed up thinking they would never have to fight b.c they were not active duty was sorely mistaken. Not to mention most of these  guys/girls are HONORED to be able to fight for their country. That's typically why they signed up to begin with, so that they could have that chance.

    Your comment was so uninformed and ignorant that it's almost laughable. Maybe you should reconsider what 'being in the military' means.

     

    AMEN!!!

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  • imagekaraknr:
    imageagis:
    imageJoBieger05:
    imageagis:

    I am military.  We can agree to disagree about the use of troops.

    I have nothing against anyone that wants to "fight".  Like you mentioned earlier, that's the great thing about America.....we have the freedom to do what we want with our lives.

    So tell me...which troops are worthy enough to be used? Only active duty Air Force, Army, Marines, and Navy? All the Reservists and Air and Army National Guard must not be "good" enough. I said it once and I'll say it again. THEY ALL GET THE SAME TRAINING.

    Worthy enough to be used?  Not "good" enough?  Seriously???  What i am commenting on has NOTHING to do with a soldier's valor.  I stand by the idea that guardsmen should mainly be used, "to serve in their home communities - just one weekend per month, and one two-week period each year".   

    Are you fuvking serious?!?!?! Why the hell would our country need people who just come in and march drill one weekend a month??? The WHOLE purpose of them going in 1 weekend a month is to keep them DEPLOYMENT ready so that they will be able to deploy whenever they are needed. The Government didnt just hire them to look pretty. Their entire purpose is to deploy or support deployment, like, oh IDK, THE REST OF THE MILITARY!!! You DO NOT sign up to be a reservist or guard thinking youre doing it just to pull in some extra cash. It's ENTIRE purpose is to pull from those people when the military needs them for a combat situation. Otherwise it would REALLY be a waste of government money.

    Anyone who signed up thinking they would never have to fight b.c they were not active duty was sorely mistaken. Not to mention most of these  guys/girls are HONORED to be able to fight for their country. That's typically why they signed up to begin with, so that they could have that chance.

    Your comment was so uninformed and ignorant that it's almost laughable. Maybe you should reconsider what 'being in the military' means.

     

     

    agreed!

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    I actually took that statement from the national guard website, so they are still marketing the guard as a "one weekend a month, two weeks a year" commitment.

    If you are thinking that it is a waste of money to have our guardsmen prepared for stateside disasters, then so be it.

    I'm sorry some of you are so irritated by comments...i'll leave it be with we agree to disagree.

     

    Really?? I would love to see a link to where you saw that remark on the NG page. I can't seem to find it anywhere. Is THIS what you were referring to?

     The National Guard is a military branch?America?s oldest?that serves both state and federal governments. The major difference between the Guard and other branches is that while Guard units are combat-trained and can be deployed overseas (depending on your unit and your job), Guard Soldiers are just as likely to serve in their home communities?just one weekend per month, and one two-week period each year.

    That is in reference to A: non combat/ peaceful times and B: it never says that's all they do. It just says that it is a likely possibility, which for many NG, it is. But that doesn't mean that the military cant or shouldnt deploy them. It very explicitly states that they can and are deployed overseas (see the bold).They are not marketing it as 'only that' but that this is a typical occurrence (and for the most part, it is), but you made the statement that they shouldnt be sent to fight in a war. The military would never train people that werent meant to be used in some way at some point.

    Way to take one sentence and use it out of context though. Props to you.Confused 

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    imageagis:

    I actually took that statement from the national guard website, so they are still marketing the guard as a "one weekend a month, two weeks a year" commitment.

    If you are thinking that it is a waste of money to have our guardsmen prepared for stateside disasters, then so be it.

    I'm sorry some of you are so irritated by comments...i'll leave it be with we agree to disagree.

     

    Why shouldnt they be sent to fight "these" wars? That is their purpose.

    Really?? I would love to see a link to where you saw that remark on the NG page. I can't seem to find it anywhere. Is THIS what you were referring to?

     The National Guard is a military branch?America?s oldest?that serves both state and federal governments. The major difference between the Guard and other branches is that while Guard units are combat-trained and can be deployed overseas (depending on your unit and your job), Guard Soldiers are just as likely to serve in their home communities?just one weekend per month, and one two-week period each year.

    That is in reference to A: non combat/ peaceful times and B: it never says that's all they do. It just says that it is a likely possibility, which for many NG, it is. But that doesn't mean that the military cant or shouldnt deploy them. It very explicitly states that they can and are deployed overseas (see the bold).They are not marketing it as 'only that' but that this is a typical occurrence (and for the most part, it is), but you made the statement that they shouldnt be sent to fight in a war. The military would never train people that werent meant to be used in some way at some point.

    Way to take one sentence and use it out of context though. Props to you.Confused 

    I never said they are marketing it as "only that" and i know they can be deployed overseas.  MY opinion is that this is what guardsmen should mainly be used for (not the military's).  Also, I said that they shouldn't be sent to fight THESE wars.

     

    Why shouldnt they  be sent to fight 'these' wars? Their purpose is to be used as extra troops in a combat situation. 'These' wars are a combat situation that required extra troops. Hence they were sent. They wouldve been sent if we were fighting any other country and needed backup. 

    And your opinion doesnt make any sense. Why wouldn't you want people who trained to deploy when needed not be used. It's a waste of your tax dollars if a sh*t ton of people get trained for combat and then not utilized when combat comes.

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  • I don't even know what to say anymore. I will never understand why she thinks that National Guard should not be used for "these" wars. Yes, most Guardsmen are part-time, but they are trained to be in a combative situation if and when the need arises. Why would they go through the training they go through? To go "fight" a hurricane? Or maybe a tornado?
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    I don't even know what to say anymore. I will never understand why she thinks that National Guard should not be used for "these" wars. Yes, most Guardsmen are part-time, but they are trained to be in a combative situation if and when the need arises. Why would they go through the training they go through? To go "fight" a hurricane? Or maybe a tornado?

    Bahahahaha!!!! love it!

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    imageJoBieger05:
    I don't even know what to say anymore. I will never understand why she thinks that National Guard should not be used for "these" wars. Yes, most Guardsmen are part-time, but they are trained to be in a combative situation if and when the need arises. Why would they go through the training they go through? To go "fight" a hurricane? Or maybe a tornado?

    Bahahahaha!!!! love it!

    I think the tornado would win...Confused

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