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Air Force possibly going Army?

So my DH is in the Air Force right now. He is absolutely miserable in the job he got stuck in -- Long story short, he got screwed in the job process. Anyway, he's thinking about making the move to the Army. I don't really know much about all this except the Army deploys a LOT longer. Is there any way around that? Is there any one who has done something similar? He also would be a Warrant Officer. What kind of jobs are available for them? Sorry for the dumb sounding questions. And thanks in advance!

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  • My DH is Army and you're right...the deployments are a whole lot longer. DH is deploying for 18 months. No way around it. The AF is the most family friendly branch. DH will miss our daughter's first and second birthdays. So yeah...but we love the Army. Love being Army and plan on staying in til retirement. If your DH wants to go Army...I say...HOOAH! But, I'm not sure about the process of transferring branches. Good luck though :o)
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  • 18 Freaking MONTHS?! HOLY COW!! I thought 12 was the average, sometimes 15. Lol. Sorry about that, mind blowing realization. We are expecting our first in January and I'm not sure when DH is planning on starting this process, or how long it will take.  DH loves the military and everything about it, except his job. I think he will adjust to the switch just fine. I however, might have a heart attack! haha Oh well, guess thats the price of being married to a servicemember. Thanks for the help!

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  • Haha...yeah. 18 months...I have a hard time wrapping myself around that amount of time. He's been gone for 10 months and that I could handle after crying for a couple days, but now I have DD and I hate that she's going to be without her daddy for so long. Haha don't have a heart attack! Army life is great. It really is. Or at least I like it. LoL.
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  • NOOOOOOOOOOOO! DO NOT GO TO THE DARK SIDE! Stick out tongue Just kidding Army Wives!  LOL

    Do your home work first.  Talk to people in the army (not recruiters) and look at different job possibilities.  Make sure he is sure he wants to switch, as PP said, the AF is the most family friendly branch.   Good luck!  

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  • I could be wrong, but last I heard, there was a freeze right now on prior service comming back in and on SMs from other branches comming over.  The Army is way over numbers right now and they are getting rid of people left and right.  He could try, though. 

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    I could be wrong, but last I heard, there was a freeze right now on prior service comming back in and on SMs from other branches comming over.  The Army is way over numbers right now and they are getting rid of people left and right.  He could try, though. 

     Hmm.. I know he talked to a recruiter and his supervision and neither said anything about that. Ill have to have him ask about that specifically.

  • I think that they are right. My husband made the move from Navy to army and wanted to go back. They at that time were not accepting any prior service. He has been in for a total of 12 and most of that is deployment. Yes they are anywhere from 12-18 months. They are very unpredicatable. I agree do your homework and ask army wives. My husband and is an MP. We thought that it would be a very family friendly job... NOPE works almost 12 hours in the jail and then has PT and other stuff.. good luck..
  • Yikes! haha I appreciate the honesty, don't get me wrong. I love getting the real deal from wives. But I'm starting to get nervous. I thought it would be a smooth switch.. looks like I am going to HAVE to do a LOT more asking around and researching this. (Since I know DH wont. lol)
  • I'm actually helping a friend go from AF to Army right now so here's a couple things.

    1) He would not necessarily be a warrant officer.  He could apply to go warrant but there is no guarantee.  He could fail out of WOC school or not meet the minimum requirements. WOC is a very hard school and they're super picky with applicants.

    2) Right now, prior service enlisted boards are open.  Any prior service officer boards are frozen.  However, that changes just about once a month.  The boards are frozen, then they open again.

    3) The first step would be to reasearch ALL branches. Figure out what sort of job he'd like to do in a different branch.  Then speak with people in those branches/jobs.

    4) He needs to get a conditional release from the AF(DA 638 I think) which basically is the AF saying "yes, if he finds a job in another branch, we'll let him go." It's typically good for 6 months so if the boards are frozen for those 6 months, he'd have to get another one.  This usually is the hardest part of the process because often times, even though his Shirt and CDR recommend he cross over, the base commander may feel differently.

    5) Deployments.  There's no way to "get around longer deployments." That's crap. However, the length of deployment will depend on his mission and the needs of the Army. DH did 18 months the first time, I did 15 months and this last time DH only did 9.  It really just depends. Also take into account that while we do have longer deployments, there is typically more time in between and two weeks R&R during deployment.

    Anything else, please let me know.

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  • image iluvmytxrgr:

    I could be wrong, but last I heard, there was a freeze right now on prior service comming back in and on SMs from other branches comming over.  The Army is way over numbers right now and they are getting rid of people left and right.  He could try, though. 

    the hold for army is lifted. my hubby was Army National Guard and is going AD Army. He's been working with his recruiter for months now. Hubby has to do 15 credit hours of college course work since he has a GED [that the ARNG gave him]

    I have heard from my tons of air force family and friends that the air force is the most family friendly also. BUT be sure you want out to go Army. We love military life [and when hubby joined in 2007 they told us he would deploy for 24 mos. then it was CUT thank the LORD! the average is 12-15 most but there are 18 month deployments. Almost ALL of my army friends have had much shorter deployments lately. they were set for 12-15 months but came back around 8-10 months. From what THEY told me [the deployed] they [the army] is trying to shorten them and lengthen the home time.

    We are having no trouble getting back in the army with prior service. but you cannot get back into the air force even if you are prior air force [what the recruiters and hubby's airforce buddies told him.] 

  • image blessedsunshine:
    image iluvmytxrgr:

    I could be wrong, but last I heard, there was a freeze right now on prior service comming back in and on SMs from other branches comming over.  The Army is way over numbers right now and they are getting rid of people left and right.  He could try, though. 

    the hold for army is lifted. my hubby was Army National Guard and is going AD Army. He's been working with his recruiter for months now. Hubby has to do 15 credit hours of college course work since he has a GED [that the ARNG gave him]

    It depends on how he went. If he went ARNG enlisted to AD enlisted, yes. But Officer boards(which the OP said her H is looking at) are frozen probably until the new Fiscal year.

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  • Can't he just cross-train and do another job in the AF?  Why in the world would you want an 18 month deployment.  My husband had his first deployment (he is Air Force) after having our child and he hated missing everything and has only been gone 6 months.  Could you imagine 18 months?  Not to mention having to pretty much be a single parent for 18 months?  I would just check into cross training... 
  • image MrsJShay:
    Can't he just cross-train and do another job in the AF?  Why in the world would you want an 18 month deployment.  My husband had his first deployment (he is Air Force) after having our child and he hated missing everything and has only been gone 6 months.  Could you imagine 18 months?  Not to mention having to pretty much be a single parent for 18 months?  I would just check into cross training... 

    Because I love my job in the Army. I love what I do and so does MH. We do it because it makes us happy even if it's hard to be away from home. 

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  • I would 100% look into cross training. Why the world you you change branches when you can usually change jobs with less fuss.

    What does he do now?

    my dh (AF) says it is easier to switch from AF to army, and they even had or still have a program to do so. But really, ugh the deployments. HOnestly every single army wife has my  utmost admiration. I am facing a 6 month deployment for dh and am so freaked out, I have NO idea how you guys do it.

    I appreciate you all so much, words can't explain it.

    But to original poster- I'm sure you guys are exploring all options but I would definetly take your time. Its a huge decision.  Good luck to you guys!

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  • Just to be clear, not everyone in the Army does 12-18 month deployments.  It completely depends on your MOS or your unit.  Just because he switches to the Army does not mean he will be gone for that long. 

    Weigh the pros and cons.  Look into all opportunities the Army can offer him compared to the ones the AF can offer him.  If the Army is what y'all feel is best for your family, go for it.  If not, try to cross train. 

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  • I would look into crosstraining. I am in the AF and I cross trained during my second enlistment. Depending on his AFSC as well as which term he is in, he could be elligible for a couple of different cross training programs.

    If he is a first term airman, then he should qualify to cross train under that program. If he is on his second or later reenlistment, he might qualify under the CAREERS program BUT he would have to cross train into a job more critically manned than his.

    I would happily answer any questions you/he might have.

  • My DH is AF and likes his job but wants to do something different and has the opportunity to apply for a switch next year. As his spouse who has no other affiliation to the military besides being married to a member, the AF is the best branch for me. DH says even though he doesnt have his 'dream job' he would rather be able to spend more time at home with me and future kids than be gone as much. He is willing to sacrifice his 'perk' job for that opportunity. However, that doesnt mean he isnt trying to get his perk job and stay in the AF, which is a compromise that works for both of us.

    It is very possible, and probably likely that your DH will NOT stay in the job that he is in now for his entire AF career (should he choose to stay). Many, if not most, airmen end up switching career tracks at least once. Many may be in the same field but switch different jobs.

    I would definitely do more research and not just through recruiters (which I have found to be more deceiving in our case than helpful). Make a list of the things that are important to you in his career and your lives together and have him do the same. Pick and rank what is most important to you both, make compromises and then pick the branch that best suites your needs/ desires. But don't just jump into this because he is unhappy with his job. That is something the AF is most likely willing to change at some point if he is willing to do the work for it.

    Also if he wants or has finished his college degree he can apply for OTS and become a commissioned officer should he be accepted. It's not easy to get in but rumor is that prior enlisted typically get picked up more often than civilians.

    Hope that helps. 

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