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ldoo
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2, 3, 4 - anyone use this?
ldoo
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I've heard mention a couple of times of the 2, 3, 4 rule:
Awake 2 hours between the morning waking and first nap; 3 hours between the next naps; and 4 hours between the last nap and bed.
Anyone used this? What age? And is the logic behind it something that can be translated to a baby who can't stay up that long? In other words, can you do something like 1.5, 2, 2.5?
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Re: 2, 3, 4 - anyone use this?
LOL! You are obsessed with sleep, Idoo!! But then again, so am I!
I have never heard of this....where did you? I think I could get DD to stay up for 3 hours....but 4 hours would be very tough...esp at the end of the day...
Ha! OMG, people I don't even know are telling my I'm obsessed (my family already does). I can't help it, as I'm sure you can't. I just want to get it down right so she gets what she needs, cause she still takes lots of cat naps.
Man, I'm so OCD.
Um, I think I saw someone post on here before about it, and I just read on a blog where someone said they used 2, 3, 4.
I guess I could see the idea behind it - that throughout the day they can stay up longer. But, my LO can barely even make it 2 hours.
By the way, I'm taking a BIG step: We're going camping this weekend. Just for a few hours during the day. I've made peace with the fact that my 2yo probably won't nap, and I'm going to attempt to go with the flow and put LO down for her naps in the car with the windows open.
Ok good, after I posted that I thought you might get offended! I am the same way though! My husband told me if I bought one more sleep book, he was going to divorce me! LOL
You sound like a GREAT mommy and sometimes you just can't avoid your LOs missing out on sleep. BUT if they've got good sleep habits to begin with, which it sounds like your's do, they will be able to bounce back much quicker when their schedule gets a little off. I am a HUGE stress ball at family functions b/c DD just doesn't sleep as well or AT ALL when she's in an unfamiliar place. My sisters all tell me to "get over it". They have 11 kids btwn them so they kinda know what they're talking about!
Trust me, if I could live in a bubble and never go anywhere so that DD could get all the sleep she needs and never miss a nap, I would! But DH won't let me and I still have to come to work. It's hard for me to let go of control to the people at daycare b/c there are days where she will nap like one hour TOTAL. I don't get it...but whatever. We do the best we can!
GL camping....you are a better woman than I!
KKM- Your siggy pic is A.Dor.Able!
Thanks!
Idoo - check out this site - I get the emails too and have read some really great FREE articles on sleeping. There is nothing earth shattering on the site, she just have a very common sense approach, IMO.
EDIT - here's the link www.babysleepsite.com
Dude, I think you and I are the same person.
Ready for my neurosis? I've paid twice (one per kid) for one-on-one e-mail sleep consultations with the owner of that site. I'm even friends with her on Facebook. She helped me wean DD#1 off the paci. I suggest her to everyone.
Anyway, your previous post cracked me up! Yes, I would totally rearrange my schedule and stay indoors all day long if it meant making sure LOs got their sleep. I don't know why I stress so much about it! I just end up pissing people off.
And DD#1 (2yo) is not flexible - there's no sleeping in the car or sleeping in bed with Mommy. Uh uh. None of that. But she sleeps great at night and during the day, which took a lot of work on my part to get her there.
So while I feel like an idiot for being so over the top, I also know that my kids (still working on naps with DD#2, but she's only 5 months) will not have bad sleep problems or be overtired like so many kids are.
I'll trade flexibility for a kid who gets the sleep they need to be at their best.
Or, at least I tell myself that to justify my OCD ways.
Your 4 month old can stay up 3 hours?!
Interesting. I always keep the intervals about the same each day, so I wonder if she'd sleep better if I slightly increased them as the day got longer. Ehh, we'll see what happens after I Ferber starting Friday.
Wow, this is amazing to me. At 5 months, DD is only staying up 1-1.5 hrs between naps. I remember with D1 it was like 2 hours between each nap- never heard of it any other way. Do you think i need to worry that she appears to be so sleepy.
Oh, I too am obsessed with sleep!
Oh I totally considered using a sleep consultant!! But I'm with you in that even though people think I'm crazy and a sleep/schedule nazi, a well rested child is a well rested parent...they go hand in hand and are SO important. I just don't get the people that take their babies every where from a very early age with no regard for their sleep...I mean, not judging at all...more power to them...they are way more laid back than me. But a party is not a party if I'm holding DD all night long. Not FUN. And I don't want to run errands with a screaming baby, who will scream even more once we're home b/c she hasn't slept in 4 hours.
DH had a hard time adjusting to my pyschotic ways but he now appreciates the regular naps on the weekends and 12 hours of sleep every night. And I remind him that this doesn't just happen on its own, magically. At least not for most babies. I have a friend that coached me on scheduling and all of that and I was so annoyed at first but now I can see how truly important it is. I could say more about sleep training and CIO but I'd probably get my ass handed to me and its not worth it. Power to the Sleep Nazis!
PS I also subscribe to the newsletters from the Sleep Lady's website! LOL And my psychotic internet googling about sleep is what led me to the magic sleepsuit, which has been nothing short of a god send for us.
Example of a typical day for DD:
Jarbatz:
Yeah, a friend of mine has an 8 month old (2 months premature) who sleeps like 6 hours at night (not consecutive) and a few 20-minute naps during the day. They keep her up late so they can see her after work, which I totally get.
I was, in as nice a way as possible, trying to explain to her how much sleep her LO needs and that none of us want our baby to go to bed at 6:30 or 7:30, but it's what's best. And she thinks that babies have been sleeping for millennia, so why won't hers just LEARN how to.
I told her they don't learn anything without their parents teaching them. That's our job.
She sent a pic of her baby falling asleep in the saucer. My first thought was, "God, my kids are just NOT that flexible" and then I was like, "But this poor baby is overtired. My kids don't do that cause they get the sleep they need."
I digress.