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Stolen from the nationals - OMG, "domestic discipline"

Someone on the nationals linked these 2 blogs about "domestic discipline" and they are both just blowing my mind. Sounds like abuse to me, and I just can't wrap my mind around a marriage operating this way. 

https://kensieandthomas.blogspot.com/

https://ourutahlife.blogspot.com/2010/04/domestic-discpline-hows-of-it-all.html 

If my husband tried to spank me (with a PADDLE 30+ times, leaving a bruise!) because I was speeding, or "talked back" or forgot a chore or "daily assignment", Camy and I would be packing our bags and never looking back. I mean, I wouldn't even discipline my child this way, let alone ever stand for that sort of treatment from someone who should be my equal.

How do these girls think this is okay or healthy? It makes me so sad for them. Sitting naked in a corner in time-out? They can't be serious.

Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. 

Re: Stolen from the nationals - OMG, "domestic discipline"

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    Can't open the first link but the second one, OMFG. That cannot be real. Cannot. That girl is an idiot. Plain and simple.
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    Oh wow.. she must have had a crapton of mean comments or something, an hour ago it was a public blog.
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    I really hope it's MUD, but if not, it's just horribly sad.
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    She says there are thousands of dom. disc. blogs out there, so I googled it.  This is the first one that popped up.  Click on the advisory at the bottom of the page and feast your brains on their rationales.  

    https://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/ 

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    I just googled "domestic discipline" and I am amazed!!  Apparently it is actually called "Christian Domestic Discipline" -- possibly based on the bible passages referring to wives being submissive  to their husbands. 

    Here's a website that talks about it: https://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/home.html

    I just cannot believe that some women go along with it.  If DH tried to put me in timeout, I would just laugh.  It seems like a depressing marriage to me.

     

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    She says there are thousands of dom. disc. blogs out there, so I googled it.  This is the first one that popped up.  Click on the advisory at the bottom of the page and feast your brains on their rationales.  

    https://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/ 

    Great minds -- I linked that right after you.

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    Holy Moly. I thought I'd heard it all.....but this is a new one. Shocking to me! How long before this hits the mainstream media?
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    I read more of the blog and I just don't get it.  She got spanked with his hand, a belt, and a paddle...and she thinks it brought them closer together.

    WTF?Indifferent  I just don't get it.  

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    I read more of the blog and I just don't get it.  She got spanked with his hand, a belt, and a paddle...and she thinks it brought them closer together.

    WTF?Indifferent  I just don't get it.  

     I can't help but read more. The more I read, the more effed up this sounds. Making your wife stand in the corner naked as punishment before you beat her......WTF!!! Is this not S&M?

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    The more I read, the more effed up this sounds. Making your wife stand in the corner naked as punishment before you beat her......WTF!!! Is this not S&M?

    The craziest part is, if anyone did this to their child they'd have CPS on them STAT.  Why do they think this is okay to do to an adult??

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    I feel the need to jump in and say that even though it's called Christian Domestic Discipline, in my 35 years in the Protestant church, I have yet to attend any that I believe would ever promote this practice. I have never had anyone even suggest to me that this is normal or that my husband has the right to discipline me. And I'm a raging feminist.

    As far as mainstream Christianity goes, well, let's just say, this seems about as Christian as Fred Phelps is Baptist.

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    They are consenting and so I don't really see the big deal.

    Honestly, I think its people who were raised in a strict religious home and this is their version of BDSM.  This is kink that God approves of, kwim?  The blogs read like soft porn.

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    They are consenting and so I don't really see the big deal.

    Honestly, I think its people who were raised in a strict religious home and this is their version of BDSM.  This is kink that God approves of, kwim?  The blogs read like soft porn.

    I just can't help but wonder what would happen if the wife woke up one day and said "Honey, I don't think we should continue incorporating domestic discipline into our marriage." Would he say okay and roll with it or bruise her behind for disrespecting him?

    The 'consent' thing doesn't justify anything in my mind. There are children in the world who have been taught that the abuse they endure is their fault, or grow up thinking that's just the way things are -- to me, this doesn't seem far off from that. These wives may think this is what marriage is supposed to be, and that makes me sad.

    And what kind of consent is it when the husband continues to beat her with objects from around the house (I read a bath brush at one point) while the wife is crying and begging him to stop. I can't remember now which blog I saw it on (I got lost in all these blogs last night) but one husband was saying that he 'spanks' her until he thinks the message got across to her and that the crying/pleading and squirming away just makes it worse. That to me is not consent. Its abuse.

    Its so sad. 

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    imageali-1411:

    They are consenting and so I don't really see the big deal.

    Honestly, I think its people who were raised in a strict religious home and this is their version of BDSM.  This is kink that God approves of, kwim?  The blogs read like soft porn.

     

    I got the same impression from some of it. 

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    WOW is all I have to say.  That is just unbelievable.  Sad.  
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    I'm sure the H is no saint, so does the door swing both ways?  Does she get to spank the shiit out of him when he disobeys?  I'm kinda thinking not, so this is SICK in my book.

    If the little wifey spends more than $100 on an item without talking to him about it?  I would say an appropriate action would be to TAKE THE ITEM BACK until they can talk about it, no?  Not bending your wife over your knee.  Some people are comparing it to punishing children, but I think a lot of that is too steep for a child even.  Cannot even believe I read that and that it really does exist.

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    the running theory on the politics board is that (at least for kenzie) it's a money making scheme. reasons for this theory:

    - both couples are unusually attractive

    - their blogs keep going down, then brought back up again- so they have the opportunity to explain DD over and over again

    - kenzie and her husband sell "instructional"  movies. umm...read: porn.

    - both women demonstrate child like tendencies (stomping, whining, etc), thus feeding into the "daddy/ spanking" thing. Seriously, when was the last time you stomped and whined to your DH? 

     

    So, yeah, I'm going w/ that. 

     

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    I absolutely caamot believe this. It's just a way for them to justify abuse. Disgusting. And nothing even remotely "Christian" about it.
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    the running theory on the politics board is that (at least for kenzie) it's a money making scheme. reasons for this theory:

    - both couples are unusually attractive

    - their blogs keep going down, then brought back up again- so they have the opportunity to explain DD over and over again

    - kenzie and her husband sell "instructional"  movies. umm...read: porn.

    - both women demonstrate child like tendencies (stomping, whining, etc), thus feeding into the "daddy/ spanking" thing. Seriously, when was the last time you stomped and whined to your DH? 

     

    So, yeah, I'm going w/ that. 

     

    Totally a front for porn. 

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    imageali-1411:

    They are consenting and so I don't really see the big deal.

    Honestly, I think its people who were raised in a strict religious home and this is their version of BDSM.  This is kink that God approves of, kwim?  The blogs read like soft porn.

     

    I got the same impression from some of it. 

    Ditto.  It seems like they're fetishists but just don't realize they are.  Maybe putting the religious spin on it unconsciously rationalizes away whatever guilt they might feel for practicing what they otherwise would call "deviant" behavior.  

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    imagemcurban:

    the running theory on the politics board is that (at least for kenzie) it's a money making scheme. reasons for this theory:

    - both couples are unusually attractive

    - their blogs keep going down, then brought back up again- so they have the opportunity to explain DD over and over again

    - kenzie and her husband sell "instructional"  movies. umm...read: porn.

    - both women demonstrate child like tendencies (stomping, whining, etc), thus feeding into the "daddy/ spanking" thing. Seriously, when was the last time you stomped and whined to your DH? 

     

    So, yeah, I'm going w/ that. 

     

    Totally a front for porn. 

    Ha ha! I didn't see the part about the instructional videos.  

    And I'm not commenting on the last time I stomped and whined for DH.  (Uhh, I meant TO DH, lol.) 

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    I read more of the blog and I just don't get it.  She got spanked with his hand, a belt, and a paddle...and she thinks it brought them closer together.

    WTF?Indifferent  I just don't get it.  

     I can't help but read more. The more I read, the more effed up this sounds. Making your wife stand in the corner naked as punishment before you beat her......WTF!!! Is this not S&M?

    I'm hoping it's a front for porn or some other money making schame, but if not, I wouldn't be that surprised. When they talk about feeling closer to each other, there is some truth to that. When someone endures trauma (however extreme or not it may be) they develop something called a trauma bond. I don't see it as consensual either. It's more similar to Stockholm Syndrome, where the victim begins to have a bond with their captor. It's a way to rationalize the madness of what's happened and to stay safe. It fits in perfectly with domestic violence power and control dynamics, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it were actually true. As for it's ties to Christianity, I'm sure it does tie in if you want to interpret the Bible in that extremely conservative way. It sounds like it would fit in with a fundamentalist branch of christianity, just like the Yearning for Zion people were the super fundamentalist branch of the Mormans. (also another example of consent not really being all that consensual. Those women say they are happy being sister wives and that hey like it, but if it's all you've ever known and you were expected to get married as a teenager or young adult to someone significantly older than you, at the urging of your parents, then it's hard to say it's truly consensual.)
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    imageali-1411:

    They are consenting and so I don't really see the big deal.

    Honestly, I think its people who were raised in a strict religious home and this is their version of BDSM.  This is kink that God approves of, kwim?  The blogs read like soft porn.

    Only it's not always consensual. On one of the blogs, the girl said during a "punishment" she repeatedly asked her husband to stop and he didn't. That is abuse. 

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    imageali-1411:

    They are consenting and so I don't really see the big deal.

    Honestly, I think its people who were raised in a strict religious home and this is their version of BDSM.  This is kink that God approves of, kwim?  The blogs read like soft porn.

    Only it's not always consensual. On one of the blogs, the girl said during a "punishment" she repeatedly asked her husband to stop and he didn't. That is abuse. 

    To me it seems like an S&M type thing that they are justifying to themselves by putting a religious spin on it.  It's NMS, but I don't have a problem with informed consenting adults doing whatever.  Now, if it's not consensual, then I have a big problem with it.  Do they have some sort of a safe word?

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    OK, just read one of the blogs...  I had read a little about this before hand and it seemed mainly to be a "bedroom thing," but this is messed up.  Whatever consenting adults want to do in the bedroom is their deal, but this guy seems to be really infantilizing his wife.  Yuck.
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    I can't open the first one, either. 

    So...what does HE get spanked for?  Anything?  Nothing?  This is abuse, plain and simple.  I could hardly read this - it makes me SO mad.  She is not his child, she's his wife and an equal partner in their marriage!  (And I didn't read any other posts, but if they're doing this in the name of "Christian" marriage, that makes me even angrier.)  Angry

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    No WAY.  That's totally some spanking fetish stuff.  Did you read this comment?  Gag!

    I have always believed that the moment a bride says, "I do", at the altar, it is the bridegroom's duty, to raise the bride's white wedding gown, take down her silk panties, and spank that tender bare botto of hers blushing pink. Also she should get a taste of a good spanking on her 'wedding night'. And all future misdeeds, in the marriage. 

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    Yeah, fvck that sh!t.

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    I've been spanked a time or two, and it definitely led to us being closer ... together ... in the dark ... (or the light, whatever you're into). Wink

    Kidding aside, if this is serious, it's sad. However, from the comments I've read on here (I haven't actualy looked at the blog), I'm going with money-making scheme or front for fetish videos.

    That's not to say there aren't households where this is seriously put into action. I doubt those households blog about it, and for those women, I'm very sad.

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    I read a couple of entries in one of the blogs yesterday (the one where the wife got punished for answering the phone and accidently cussing at the H's coworker).  I cannot get this out of my head.  Its seriously sickening to me.  I couldn't stop thinking about it last night or this morning.  I am so, so sad for these women who value themselves so little as to think that their husband needs to punish them for being "bad."  The wife sounded like a seven year old: "I hadn't been bad in so long!  I've been so good lately!"

    I don't know why this got to me so much but it really hit a nerve.  I hope I can forget about it soon.

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