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Somebody calm me down
I am home bored to death. As my dog takes a nap, I started googling things. I came across over a dozen articles saying that if you ovulate later than CD 20 you have a significantly less chance of conceiving than someone who oulates earlier on in their cycles. They are not saying that pregnancy won't ever happen, it is just going to take a while and you will have a much harder time.
I am freaking out. I ovulate after CD 20- one cycle CD 22, 23, 25....
Someone calm me down!
Mia Claire due 6/1/11, born 6/6/11. C-section.
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Re: Somebody calm me down
From what I understand, it doesn't matter as much on what day you ovulate, but how late in your cycle you ovulate. How long are your cycles, typically? If your cycles are 35+ days long, then you should be fine. The problem would be if you ovulate on CD20 with only 28 day cycles, then that doesn't give a fertilized egg and your uterine lining a lot of time to connect because your body wants to shed that lining too quickly. It's called a short luteal phase, or luteal phase defect.
If you have at least 10 days between ovulation and the end of your cycle, you should be fine.
I'd like to know why they say this is. If I had to assume, I'd say it's because those are people that are not charting, and assume that they ovulate sometime around CD14. Some people think if you just have sex in the middle of the month, you'll get pregnant...for someone who O's after CD20, that's not true. That's just my guess, though.
Those would be the same things. What you are talking about O on CD 20 and AF comes on CD 28 is different as that would be an LP issue NOT an O issue.
I wouldn't say that they are top rated articles from medical journals. They were just regular website like pregnancy-info.net. WebMD. etc.
As for the luteal phase...they were stating that this was two separate things. If you ovulate on CD 25, then your lining as been preparing for 25 days compared to those who ovulate on day 14.
Of course I am now looking at FF's chart galleries and only 26% of the charts ended with pregnancy for those women who ovulate later than CD 20.
This.
I O around CD23-24, but I still have a LP of 14 days-15 days.
A short LP can be an issue, but it has nothing to do with how late you O.
Yes---like they said, it is NOT possible to conceive just harder to do it. You have less chances than those who ovulate earlier.
But I agree, the internet can make me neurotic. I need to step away! It just got me wondering and got me scared.
That's what I'm trying to point out, that the LP length is what should cause caution, not the O day. The OP is concerned that she is O-ing after day 20, but her previous cycle was 36 days long. She has a long enough LP, so it shouldn't matter that she O'd on day 20. If she only had 28 day cycles, then it might be an issue.
Sorry if I'm not expressing myself adequately, but I don't see what the problem is...
It shouldn't matter, but the articles she's found tell her exactly that (Oing late is a cause for concern) hence her worried post. Does that make sense?
I never heard that before...but there are a lot of things I've never heard
Do you have any links to what you were reading so we can understand better?
Also, what's the % of charts ending with pregnancy with early or normal ovulations? (Sorry, I don't have VIP and I don't think I can access percentages on the free version).
My average LP is about 13 days. So when my cycle was 36 days, I ovulated on CD 23--therefore late ovulation.
When I was younger, before BCP, my cycles lasted from 26-29 days. Now that I am off BCP they are longer. My ob/gyn said that even if your cycles continue to be longer now it is because our bodies change as do our hormones, so now I just might be Oing later. That got me thinking and then I started googling late ovulation!
This is from inciid.org--
Menstruation only requires development and shedding of the endometrium in response to alternating levels of estrogen then progesterone in the blood stream. These hormones can be produced by the ovary even when an egg does not mature or release.
So we are going to discuss this weekly apparently? I have still yet to see actual scientific research proving this other than theory and random articles. Where are you getting this information from?
FWIW, I got KU with DS after not having a period for Idk how long bc when I tested and got a BFP I was 8 weeks (they moved my due date back and forth a couple times so I can't be exactly sure) and hadn't gotten AF in almost 4 months. I haven't had a period in 8 months and from phone conversations, so I could be mistaken, my OB doesn't think that kick starting AF is necessary at this point before we proceed with anything else, and some people on the board have said that you don't need to get AF to start Clomid so I don't really think it's as big of an issue as it's made out to be. If you O regularly late that is what is typical for you body and your lining isn't old bc I'm sure there is a time frame before AF it builds up, as opposed to it builds up on CD1 and just hangs out for 30 or 40 days.I would be more concerned with a super short cycle than a 35 day cycle.
sorry I copied and pasted the wrong thing:
I have been on here every day for the past 3 months and haven't seen anything mentioned about "a late ovulation means that the current lining is a bit too old. This can make it harder for a fertilized egg to attach." I have read about people wondering about old eggs, but I personally don't believe that.
Sorry if it was repetitive. I just wanted to see if anyone else heard of this issue,
I have been on here every day for the past 3 months and haven't seen anything mentioned about "a late ovulation means that the current lining is a bit too old. This can make it harder for a fertilized egg to attach." I have read about people wondering about old eggs, but I personally don't believe that.
Sorry if it was repetitive. I just wanted to see if anyone else heard of this issue,
Yes this has been discussed multiple times. Reading articles you find on Google is always a bad idea. If you want to find real information look on Google Scholar. Its a pain to read through medical journals, but its the only way to know youre getting actual scientific information (and even then its not always correct).
I usually O between CD19-22 and we are TTC #2. Step away from Google.
Complete valid concerns are when you O late and have 28-30 day cycle, leaving a shorter LP. When I got pg with my dd, I was on progesterone because of my shorter LP. This time I am taking B6 in hopes that will help and then I will follow-up when we get pg again.
Thank you for the reassurance. I should have learned that when googling medical conditions, you don't get the most accurate answers.
I usually ovulate on/around CD23 and I have never had any problems getting pregnant.
My OB and midwife both said that it is still considered normal. I wonder if it is linked with my miscarriages but they also said that they doubt it. GL to you. As least you are ovulating. That is always a good thing!
9 angels in heaven-3 in my arms and 1 in the NICU
Mono/di twin girls: Josephine born to heaven and Evangeline born Earthside at 25w
Well, you'll get tons of posters who say, "I got pregnant on CD20-something!" ...but that doesn't change the fact that it is true...late O in general leads to a lower chance of conception. Look at it this way: We know smoking causes lung cancer, but you can still find people who smoked their whole lives and never got it. That doesn't mean smoking doesn't cause lung cancer. We're talking about a tendency here.
The way my ob/gyn explained it to me was that if you O "late" (>CD20), the lining is thick, old, and already breaking down. Like you said, making implantation difficult. Impossible? no. Difficult? yes.
He also told me it's associated with a higher m/c risk because embryos often don't (or can't) properly implant in an older lining.
I ovulate regularly, but late (usually between CD20 and CD25), but my ob/gyn still put me on Clomid so that I could O earlier.
I'm not sure I really understand your question. He told me that as time goes on, your lining thickens and starts to break down. So, I don't know how to answer WHY lining thickens and breaks down except to say time goes by. Our lining breaks down and sheds every month (unless you get pregnant). I have no WHY other than that.
As for monitoring, I have a follicle & lining check on CD13 and a progesterone check 7DPO....but I don't really see what that has to do with anything. I was just saying that my ob/gyn is putting me on Clomid for the explicit purpose of moving up my O date to increase my chances of conceiving (and lower my m/c risk). This is what he told me. I did not ask him where he went to medical school and what specific studies he learned about when he was in medical school.