Military Families

blatant opsec violation

so a friend of mine on facebook has a husband who is leaving, and she has posted the day on her own facebook, and i went to look at an event we were both invited to and she also posted the date on a public event as the reason she couldnt come.

im not an opsec nazi, but seriously... thats common sense its one thing to say my husband leaves next week its another to say my husband leaves the **th... and its also completely different when its your own private facebook and for all i know you have super duper awesome privacy settings and few friends. but on a public event? really?

okay done. but it bothered me. i keep waiting for someone to tell her "umm yeah dont post dates" i feel like if i did it id come off pretty bitchy.

Re: blatant opsec violation

  • OMG that is on my top ten facebook pet peeves! glad I'm not the only one!
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  • I'll tell her not to post dates. Thats totally compromising security.
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  • I would tell her, too. Heck, I've sent messages to friends of friends of friends who post violations on their pages. If I can see it at that point, so can everyone else in the world. 

    An old acquaintance (probably haven't spoken to him in 10 years) enlisted and got deployed right after his training was up. The entire time he was gone, his mom (who I don't think I ever even met) was posting things like, "Sean and his unit are going on patrol today from 0900 to 2200 in ______ city/town/province/whatever. Please pray for them!" Seriously? Are you trying to get your son killed? I gave her a piece of my mind over that. 

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  • I don't even lik people on FB knowing DH is gone, however my friends know when he leaves since they live so close so it desn't bother me that much.  But I would say something if its on a public forum.  You never know who might be reading.
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  • I'd just tell her politely and not concern myself with how she interprets it. 

    She's being a dumbass, which is far worse than b!tchy when it comes to other people's safety.

  • imagemeltoine:

    I would tell her, too. Heck, I've sent messages to friends of friends of friends who post violations on their pages. If I can see it at that point, so can everyone else in the world. 

    An old acquaintance (probably haven't spoken to him in 10 years) enlisted and got deployed right after his training was up. The entire time he was gone, his mom (who I don't think I ever even met) was posting things like, "Sean and his unit are going on patrol today from 0900 to 2200 in ______ city/town/province/whatever. Please pray for them!" Seriously? Are you trying to get your son killed? I gave her a piece of my mind over that. 

    Indifferent That is ridiculous. I take OPSEC very seriously and while DH was deployed another wife was always posting things like "I hate it when DH is at ____" etc and it drove me bonkers. However, our Rear D told us that if it is on a personal FB page there is nothing anyone can do and we can't make them take it down...um whaaaa?!

  • My personal tolerance is to give one polite, "Please delete the post about troop movement/mission/whatever. We should keep it a secret to keep them safe.". If it's a military member, all I do is post the word OPSEC. The second time it happens, I mention it, then delete them from my contacts. I don't want to be friends with people who think their Facebook is more important than my comrades' lives. This is exactly the reason why I think military members need to be held to a higher standard. What kind of idiot feels the need to tell his mom/wife/gf that they'll be in X Province from Y-Z time? OPSEC needs to be a punitive matter.
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  • OH MYLANTA!!! the whole my son's unit is going on a patrol from 0900 to 2200... was just... i didnt know what to say to that. i wouldve walked my ass over to wherever she was and smacked her upside the head... UNBELIEVABLE!!! but no, there's nothing wrong with being a *** about opsec... and if it continues i would go to the command about it because this is serious business which i do know of a wife that did go to her husband's command over another wife that didnt know how to keep her mouth shut.
  • my husband told me to not even post a update that he is deployed.

    So my close friends will know, but my facebook community will not. It is NOT worth it.

    I cannot believe the amount of asshatery around here and on the web.

    I personally cant stand the "half my heart is in wherever" bumper stickers either. Now thats not opsec but seriously...you want murderers and sickos to know you're going home to an empty house? cool dude

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  • imageSarahTx5701:

    my husband told me to not even post a update that he is deployed.

    So my close friends will know, but my facebook community will not. It is NOT worth it.

    I cannot believe the amount of asshatery around here and on the web.

    I personally cant stand the "half my heart is in wherever" bumper stickers either. Now thats not opsec but seriously...you want murderers and sickos to know you're going home to an empty house? cool dude

    lets be friends. i feel the same way about all that. ah one of my girlfriends had one on her car and i wanted to punch her. i mean seriously so youre husband/bf is gone and you are gonna share that info with everyone?

    i also think its awesome when you have the blue star sh*t all over your house. its like "HEY MY HUSBAND IS GONE, IM ALONE, COME ON IN!" my neighbor had that on her front window, her back window so you could see it from the main road, i beleive on her car and i was like wtf?

    my friends on fb know my husband is gone, its not a big secret we had deployed husbands this year. and oh wait, they are my friends in real life, so they would have figured it out anyway.

  • imagekrista613:
    imageSarahTx5701:

    my husband told me to not even post a update that he is deployed.

    So my close friends will know, but my facebook community will not. It is NOT worth it.

    I cannot believe the amount of asshatery around here and on the web.

    I personally cant stand the "half my heart is in wherever" bumper stickers either. Now thats not opsec but seriously...you want murderers and sickos to know you're going home to an empty house? cool dude

    lets be friends. i feel the same way about all that. ah one of my girlfriends had one on her car and i wanted to punch her. i mean seriously so youre husband/bf is gone and you are gonna share that info with everyone?

    i also think its awesome when you have the blue star sh*t all over your house. its like "HEY MY HUSBAND IS GONE, IM ALONE, COME ON IN!" my neighbor had that on her front window, her back window so you could see it from the main road, i beleive on her car and i was like wtf?

    my friends on fb know my husband is gone, its not a big secret we had deployed husbands this year. and oh wait, they are my friends in real life, so they would have figured it out anyway.

    UMMM that blue star sh*t as you call it is a sign of respect for deployed military members...when I was serving back to back tours in Iraq my mother had a blue star in her window and when my Navy Seal father was out on missions we had blue stars in our windows and when my husband was deployed there was a blue star in our window. Just because you don't believe in doing it doesn't mean you need to disrespect it. BTW I would love to see someone try to break into my house, between my alarm, my great dane and my 22 in the night stand I doubt I would have any problems.

  • so ive noticed that a lot of wives get into arguments over OPSEC -_- especially wives that are newer to the military life as they do not understand WHY there is OPSEC... but i was wondering how SERIOUS are you ladies over OPSEC?? i refuse to post dates (including months), times, locations, etc... i take OPSEC to heart as ive personally seen what damage can be done when it's violated... but as far as i KNEW, wives are supposed to be briefed on OPSEC before deployments. apparently not every command does this??
  • the OP of this topic mentioned how a fb friend made an event about her husband's deployment... at least from the other ladies ive talked to... ladies who violate OPSEC really dont know why OPSEC even exists and i think thats why they dont take it so seriously. apparently theyre told to FOLLOW OPSEC but are never told WHY and so they dont think its a serious matter. for them its sort of like "oh what does it matter if i post that stuff only my friends see it. other people dont go looking for that" when the fact of the matter is... is that people do. ive known homecoming dates to be pushed as long as 2 months! simply because the dates were released when they SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN. and that makes me SO MAD... the saying is true LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS. as much as most of us in this topic have posted think its stupid of others that DONT follow OPSEC... in a way it makes sense to me now... its not really stupidity but rather that of naivety 
  • imagerkearns0821:
    imagekrista613:
    imageSarahTx5701:

    my husband told me to not even post a update that he is deployed.

    So my close friends will know, but my facebook community will not. It is NOT worth it.

    I cannot believe the amount of asshatery around here and on the web.

    I personally cant stand the "half my heart is in wherever" bumper stickers either. Now thats not opsec but seriously...you want murderers and sickos to know you're going home to an empty house? cool dude

    lets be friends. i feel the same way about all that. ah one of my girlfriends had one on her car and i wanted to punch her. i mean seriously so youre husband/bf is gone and you are gonna share that info with everyone?

    i also think its awesome when you have the blue star sh*t all over your house. its like "HEY MY HUSBAND IS GONE, IM ALONE, COME ON IN!" my neighbor had that on her front window, her back window so you could see it from the main road, i beleive on her car and i was like wtf?

    my friends on fb know my husband is gone, its not a big secret we had deployed husbands this year. and oh wait, they are my friends in real life, so they would have figured it out anyway.

    UMMM that blue star sh*t as you call it is a sign of respect for deployed military members...when I was serving back to back tours in Iraq my mother had a blue star in her window and when my Navy Seal father was out on missions we had blue stars in our windows and when my husband was deployed there was a blue star in our window. Just because you don't believe in doing it doesn't mean you need to disrespect it. BTW I would love to see someone try to break into my house, between my alarm, my great dane and my 22 in the night stand I doubt I would have any problems.

    youre right i shouldnt have called it "sh*t" but i do think that it's not the smartest thing you can put all over your house when you live alone and there have been break ins in the area... i just think it calls unnecessary attention to "hey im alone" when it doesnt need to be, but who knows if i had moved home for deployment maybe i would have had those on my windows too, i just think its like announcing IM ALONE STEAL MY STUFF on a military post.

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