I don't get the "V" day idea.

Scout05 · July 2010

I mean...isn't it like 24 weeks or something? Obviously, in most cases, a baby born that early would have a significant struggle, if they lived at all.

It's still way, way, WAY too early for the baby to come. I don't see the cause for celebration.

Am I just a bitter pessimist, is that it?

rjl07 · July 2010

I think you are right and they would definitely struggle, but I guess it's the point where the baby actually has a chance to survive. I hate that this has made us all so pessimistic.

ColindaP · July 2010

Yes, of course being born at 24 weeks means the baby would have significant struggles and very likely lifelong health problems, but it's also the earliest the baby has a *chance* to survive. It's not a great chance, but before that it's no chance. I don't think it's anything to bring in trumpets and baton twirlers for, but I can see why people see it as a significant milestone.

johannaknip · July 2010

I don't agree with throwing a parade and all that jazz, but I do think it's an important milestone. I feel like we hold our breath every day. With each new milestone you let it out just a bit and some day you get to where you can breathe again. Does that make sense?

KelinandKevin · July 2010

johannaknip:
I don't agree with throwing a parade and all that jazz, but I do think it's an important milestone. I feel like we hold our breath every day. With each new milestone you let it out just a bit and some day you get to where you can breathe again. Does that make sense?

This is how I feel too. Right now I am holding on for beta #2, and then it will be the first u/s where we can see a hb, then it will be getting out of the first tri, then...... yeah... milestones.

AppleRidge · July 2010

Getting out of first tri is a huge milestone to me. In the whole scheme of things, it doesn't mean jack sh!t. It certainly doesn't mean I'm going to take home a baby in 6 months. But I will still celebrate like a crazy person. So I understand the relief that V-day brings, and I think most people take it with the appropriate shaker of salt.

KristysRedBarn · July 2010

Since early labor wasn't an issue for me, I doubt I will feel much relief. For some though, I get that it's a milestone, but not really a cause for celebration. When I have a child and get to send them off to college, then I'll be able to breathe again.

dondraandluis · July 2010

I have always thought the same thing and never understood it either. I totally agree with you.

SweetieD21 · July 2010

johannaknip:
I don't agree with throwing a parade and all that jazz, but I do think it's an important milestone. I feel like we hold our breath every day. With each new milestone you let it out just a bit and some day you get to where you can breathe again. Does that make sense?

I couldn't agree more!

Scout05 · July 2010

I totally get that it's a milestone, and an important one. I'm not saying I won't be glad when it arrives.

But a "squee V-Day!!!!1!!!1" post seems odd to me.

ShellShockedMama · July 2010

The only good thing about "v" day (in my mind/opinion) is that's when hopsitals will (a) send you to L&D as opposed to waiting 8 hours in the ER and (b) try and do things to save the baby, as opposed to "tough _shit, you waited 9 hours in the ER but too bad, go home there's nothing we can do"

incidentally that's what they said to me when I went in at 23 weeks.

OCIrishBruin · July 2010

ShellShockedMama:
The only good thing about "v" day (in my mind/opinion) is that's when hopsitals will (a) send you to L&D as opposed to waiting 8 hours in the ER and (b) try and do things to save the baby, as opposed to "tough _shit, you waited 9 hours in the ER but too bad, go home there's nothing we can do"
incidentally that's what they said to me when I went in at 23 weeks.

This is pretty much exactly how I explained it to DH this morning. Basically, it's the point at which, if something looked like it was going wrong, instead of just writing the baby off, doctors will actually try to save the baby. Obviously, any baby born that early will have significant health issues, but it is still good to be in the "worthy of saving" category.

And, after everything everyone has gone through (on PgAL at least) to get there, they are just itching for any excuse to celebrate a milestone.

CarrieLeigh84 · July 2010

24 weeks is when they start *trying* to save a baby.

not 23w6d... cough cough.

Asshats.

Scout05 · July 2010

CarrieLeigh84:

24 weeks is when they start *trying* to save a baby.

not 23w6d... cough cough.

Asshats.

Big, huge, smothering hugs.

Court1 · July 2010

CarrieLeigh84:

24 weeks is when they start *trying* to save a baby.

not 23w6d... cough cough.

Asshats.

Big huge hugs sweetie

pepomntpat · July 2010

I celebrate every milestone. I celebrated when I made it to ten weeks since my loss was at nine weeks. When you've had a loss and are scared all the time, you have to find things to celebrate or you will just go crazy looking for things to worry about.

CarrieLeigh84 · July 2010

OCIrishBruin:
ShellShockedMama:
The only good thing about "v" day (in my mind/opinion) is that's when hopsitals will (a) send you to L&D as opposed to waiting 8 hours in the ER and (b) try and do things to save the baby, as opposed to "tough _shit, you waited 9 hours in the ER but too bad, go home there's nothing we can do"
incidentally that's what they said to me when I went in at 23 weeks.
This is pretty much exactly how I explained it to DH this morning. Basically, it's the point at which, if something looked like it was going wrong, instead of just writing the baby off, doctors will actually try to save the baby. Obviously, any baby born that early will have significant health issues, but it is still good to be in the "worthy of saving" category.
And, after everything everyone has gone through (on PgAL at least) to get there, they are just itching for any excuse to celebrate a milestone.

Thanks, for that. Good to know that my daughter wasn't "worthy of saving"

Scout05 · July 2010

OCIrishBruin:
ShellShockedMama:

The only good thing about "v" day (in my mind/opinion) is that's when hopsitals will (a) send you to L&D as opposed to waiting 8 hours in the ER and (b) try and do things to save the baby, as opposed to "tough _shit, you waited 9 hours in the ER but too bad, go home there's nothing we can do"

incidentally that's what they said to me when I went in at 23 weeks.

This is pretty much exactly how I explained it to DH this morning. Basically, it's the point at which, if something looked like it was going wrong, instead of just writing the baby off, doctors will actually try to save the baby. Obviously, any baby born that early will have significant health issues, but it is still good to be in the "worthy of saving" category.

And, after everything everyone has gone through (on PgAL at least) to get there, they are just itching for any excuse to celebrate a milestone.

I know you didn't mean it like it's coming off here, but...

I'd like to think all of our babies were "worthy of saving." Some of us just didn't get the chance because it was too early. Medical inability doesn't mean they weren't worth the effort.

grr_aargh · July 2010

What I don't understand about V-day is that 24 weeks is a milestone, generally speaking, when it comes to termination not assistance. It's not automatic at 24 weeks that your baby will receive medical care - it depends on your hospital, your individual issues, and your baby. There's a survival rate for babies at 23 weeks viability, so clearly SOME hospitals WILL work on babies before 24 weeks. . . and clearly some hospitals are twatfaces that won't work on a baby at 24 weeks.

I mean, I get a series of milestones, I do, but I'm not going to feel more comfortable at 24 weeks. 30 weeks is when the delivery rate for full term and preterm babies and their survival is about the same. I'll feel more comfortable then, but certainly not in the clear.

I won't feel in the clear until little Elsa throws her first punch at a family dinner. Then I'll know she's one of us and here to stay.

southernblond3 · July 2010

Lurking... (waiting on Kelin to post )

I can tell you this much though, when I hit that 24 week mark, knowing that my BP was going up and all that, I breathed a HUGE sigh of relief, because I knew that my child actually had a 'chance' of surviving outside of my body at that point. I didnt throw a party for the occasion, but it was a BIG milestone for us...knowing that at that point, if my body could no longer keep the bun in the oven, that at least something could help keep him growing...and that he would actually have a chance at life...

bbhalphen · July 2010

grr_aargh:

What I don't understand about V-day is that 24 weeks is a milestone, generally speaking, when it comes to termination not assistance. It's not automatic at 24 weeks that your baby will receive medical care - it depends on your hospital, your individual issues, and your baby. There's a survival rate for babies at 23 weeks viability, so clearly SOME hospitals WILL work on babies before 24 weeks. . . and clearly some hospitals are twatfaces that won't work on a baby at 24 weeks.

I mean, I get a series of milestones, I do, but I'm not going to feel more comfortable at 24 weeks. 30 weeks is when the delivery rate for full term and preterm babies and their survival is about the same. I'll feel more comfortable then, but certainly not in the clear.

I won't feel in the clear until little Elsa throws her first punch at a family dinner. Then I'll know she's one of us and here to stay.

I love you!

CLAYLIOVER · July 2010

If my opinion matters at all- 24 weeks is a pretty big deal for me at this point. but everyone is right. its still way too early and risky. But its comforting for me too know at least we have a shot...

lindsay.lou · July 2010

CLAYLIOVER:
If my opinion matters at all- 24 weeks is a pretty big deal for me at this point. but everyone is right. its still way too early and risky. But its comforting for me too know at least we have a shot...

I think in your case, Clayli, we can all certainly understand V-day (and every single day/week afterward) being EXTREMELY important and crucial.

Scout05 · July 2010

lindsay.lou:
CLAYLIOVER:

If my opinion matters at all- 24 weeks is a pretty big deal for me at this point. but everyone is right. its still way too early and risky. But its comforting for me too know at least we have a shot...

I think in your case, Clayli, we can all certainly understand V-day (and every single day/week afterward) being EXTREMELY important and crucial.

Of course.

I hope all is well with you and the girls.

CLAYLIOVER · July 2010

ambrandau2:
lindsay.lou:
CLAYLIOVER:

If my opinion matters at all- 24 weeks is a pretty big deal for me at this point. but everyone is right. its still way too early and risky. But its comforting for me too know at least we have a shot...

I think in your case, Clayli, we can all certainly understand V-day (and every single day/week afterward) being EXTREMELY important and crucial.

Of course.

I hope all is well with you and the girls.

Thanks girls. Looking forward to my checkup appt tomorrow. Heres to hoping nothing is getting/or has gotten worse!

Court1 · July 2010

CLAYLIOVER:
ambrandau2:
lindsay.lou:
CLAYLIOVER:

If my opinion matters at all- 24 weeks is a pretty big deal for me at this point. but everyone is right. its still way too early and risky. But its comforting for me too know at least we have a shot...

I think in your case, Clayli, we can all certainly understand V-day (and every single day/week afterward) being EXTREMELY important and crucial.

Of course.

I hope all is well with you and the girls.

Thanks girls. Looking forward to my checkup appt tomorrow. Heres to hoping nothing is getting/or has gotten worse!

Lots of T&P still being sent to you & the girls. We're all pulling for you to make it far beyond 24 wks. :::Hugs:::

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