I had asked a week or so ago about how to nip Dylan's reliance on a bottle to sleep, and I'm still not sure what I should do. I'm curious - to those of you that nursed to sleep or bottle-fed to sleep, how did the transition go once you were no longer nursing or giving a bottle? I know Dylan is teething right now, so I'm not going to fight it at this moment, but I would like if he would go down for naps without a bottle. Should I read the Ferber book? I'm just nervous that we're going to create a very bad habit here that I'll be trying to break right when we have the new baby, which is pretty scary to me!
FWIW, he sleeps 8 - 6:30 or so and does wake during the night sometimes, but 99% of the time, he puts himself back to sleep. He goes down while drinking his final bottle of the day. He used to fall asleep for naps with rocking or walking, and I could sometimes lay him down drowsy but awake, but now he fights it and will look around, push away, cry, etc. If I lay him down awake, he won't fall asleep and he also doesn't cry. He just looks around and "talks" and tries to grab at anything to interest himself (the bumper, the sheets, pacifier, etc).
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If you can put him down awake and he doesn't cry I would just do that. Both boys did that and they did eventually fall asleep.
If either kiddo fell asleep while nursing I would usually do something to wake them up a bit. Not wide awake, but enough that they knew that I was putting them in bed and leaving. Usually they would be drowsy enough to go right back to sleep.
My advice may not be worth much right now, but we are able to put Evan down drowsy. He just doesn't stay asleep.
I make a point of talking to him when we has his final bottle and I wake him a bit by changing his diaper and clothes after his last bottle. Then he is drowsy but awake when he gets put in his crib. If I need to I will pat his back for a few minutes, but then I kiss him and walk away. It is the rest of the night we have issues with.
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I nursed him to sleep (only at bedtime) for around ten months. Then we switched to my husband giving him a bottle at that same time. It wasn't traumatic for him to go from nursing to bottle-feeding. Once that was OK, we swapped the order of his bedtime routine. We gave him milk, then bath, then brush his teeth, then books/singing, then to bed. We did do Ferber at that point because he had no clue how to put himself to sleep for bedtime. It was relatively easy on all of us, but I know all kids are different. Night 1 was around 20 minutes of crying, night 2 maybe 10, and no crying the third night. I definitely recommend reading the book. I checked it out from the library several times before I was ready to bite the bullet myself and actually do it.
I never nursed to sleep for naps, but it took forever and a day for him to go to sleep. So much bouncing, singing, shushing...it was exhausting. Then honestly, it just got better. I didn't have a magic trick. I think he just got on some sort of routine, and he was better able to fall asleep on his own.
If he'll go down without crying, even if he's up for a bit, let him!
And we started weaning her off the bottle to sleep around five months old I guess, when she started not taking as much. But she took a bottle to fall back asleep for quite a while. We weaned off of that by doing watered down formula for a week or two, then straight water and she weaned herself.
I should add, she was drinking less than 2oz over the course of the night, so by watering down the formula, we weren't affecting her overall daily intake. It's not like she was taking a full 8 oz bottle at night.
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I completely understand about not wanting to change his routine when he's teething
When you're ready, maybe try gently waking him before you put him back in his crib after his bedtime bottle so he gets used to being put into his crib awake. Then,after a few days try giving him his last bottle at the beginning of your bedtime routine, instead of at the end...
You know how bad of a sleeper Hailey has been. Most of that is probably due to her nursing to sleep for a long time (we stopped the nursing to sleep for naps a while ago, but our problem had been nighttime nursings...).
I've been working on weaning her and I was dreading the before bed nursing b/c I depended on that to be able to put her in her crib drowsy-but-awake. I just stopped nursing her before bed. I did our regular bedtime routine, but cut out the nrusing. That's all I did...and she was fine with it. I thought she'd be really upset, but it has thankfully been really easy. We stopped the bedtime nursing about 3 months ago...
She has a bunch of stuff in her crib too: small board books, two wubbanubs (paci's), some baby dolls, etc...sometimes she plays and falls asleep after about 5-30 minutes of playing, but she doesn't usually cry at all before she falls asleep.
Good luck!
I'd just let him play and talk in there.I put H in her crib for a nap and sometimes she'll play the entire time for her afternoon nap. I think that quiet time can be helpful for her to recharge her little battery just as much as a nap.
What helps with H is I have to put her in her crib for her nap BEFORE she gets too tired. For her, that's around 9AM. I've noticed that if I wait until 10AM or 10:30, she's definitely tired, but it's like she's too tired and worked up to fall asleep easily on her own.
Thanks for all the advice! I was having a hard time getting him down earlier. I knew he was tired as he kept rubbing his face into my arm, but he kept fighting it. So, I took your advice and laid him in there and just left him. I took a shower and turned the monitor up high so I could hear him. Never heard any cries and then silence. HE FELL ASLEEP!!! Wow! I'll be trying this for all naps and then bedtime. Thanks for telling me it's ok for him to play in his crib and that maybe he'd fall asleep. I really thought there was no hope as he fights sleep so hard.
Lisa - I do have that soother. It is SO not soothing for him though. LOL He gets wide awake and starts trying to grab it and stares at it. He loves it, but not in a "let's go to sleep" way.
His glow seahorse is a lot more soothing for him, but we play the waterfall soother in the mornings after he's awake.
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