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anyone hear about this?
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Re: anyone hear about this?
I'm still surprised at how often things like this happen. The majority of new mothers nurse. I just don't understand why people can't wrap their heads around the fact that we can do it anywhere and there is legal protection for it.
As an aside, I think us nursing moms need to drop the "it's natural" argument because it's faulty. Lots of things are natural that we don't do openly in public (sex, defecation, urination, belching, passing gas, etc) so this argument doesn't hold much sway. I much prefer the argument of "there is nothing offensive about eating" and pointing out that we have legal protection to nurse wherever we might be. Just my two cents.
Personally, I think the manager was within her rights to ask the woman to leave the closed patio. She may NOT have legally been within her rights to be there (even if the waiters told her so - they could have been wrong). It's the same deal as the woman at the baseball game last month (in Colorado) - she was in a closed section. I don't understand why she couldn't have stayed at her booth.
I think Newport on the Levee is a PITA place for nursing moms. There's not a private non-bathroom place to nurse there.
My preferred nursing location at Newport on the Levee is a chair upstairs in Barnes and Noble. Air conditioned, comfy, out of the traffic and sun.
ETA: Btw, did you do a bracket for World Cup? My family all put theirs together last night so we're all set. I'm surprised how many have the US moving to the semifinals. I have them beating Ghana but losing to Uruguay. We shall see.
So the mom is claiming she was asked to leave by being shown alternative places for her to nurse and the company are claiming they were 'helping' her out by offering her alternatives...does it matter where she nurses? whether she is standing on a patio or not?
Also I want to know what is un-natural about breastfeeding? I always thought it was natural as in what God intended for our body to do like conceiving and giving birth although sometimes some of us need help, intervention or alternative avenues. Just curious.
Not sure if this is directed at me or not but I have never heard anyone say breastfeeding is unnatural so I am confused by this question.
Meg41208: I didn't see in this article where the restaurant claims the section was closed. I suppose if it were a closed section the manager could have asked her to move to another location. However, DH is in the restaurant business and when I asked him if he would ask a nursing mother to move elsewhere because she was sitting in a closed section his response was "Hell no." Why bother? She's not interfering with the operation of the restaurant by sitting there.
We talked about how these situations seem to arise all the time and end up on the news and in blogs and whatnot so he now intends to inform his 35 managers at his 6 restaurants that they are not to harass a nursing mother or ever ask them to leave or move locations.
I was just confused as to what you meant by the dropping the whole it's natural thing, I mean I understand their are certain bodily functions you don't want to share with others but is breastfeeding one of them or is it the practice of NIP?
Breastfeeding is totally natural. So is having a bowel movement or having sex. But you wouldn't do either one of those things in public. I think, as nursing moms, we shoot ourselves in the foot when we try to use the "but its natural" argument as a justification for BF'ing in public since the opposition can turn around and say "Well taking a sh!t is natural, but I don't do it at the table in a restaurant." They have a valid point and we haven't come any closer to changing their thinking about NIP. As I said in my first post, I think our argument is stronger when we say "There is nothing offensive about eating" as a defense to BF'ing in public as there IS something offensive about taking a sh!t in public or having sex at a table in a restaurant. Does that distinction make sense?
One of the first rules of good debate is being able to anticipate the arguments of one's opponents. Your argument should never prove or bolster your opponent's argument. And in this case, I think the "it's natural" argument plays directly into the hands of those who are opposed to NIP. We need to have a better argument than "it's natural" since there are lots of natural things we don't do in front of the population at large.
It doesn't say that anywhere, it was just my assumption because no one was sitting there.
Anyway, thinking about it more, the KY law says that you have a right to nurse any place, public or private, that you are otherwise entitled to be. It's not carte blanche to nurse ANYWHERE. You have to have a right to be there in the first place.
I think there are just too many holes in the story, but I can't just side with the mom in this case.
Ok, good, I thought I was missing something. I agree that the law would not be in her favor if she were somewhere she wouldn't otherwise be permitted if she were not nursing. Like she can't wander into the restaurant's kitchen and nurse since a non-nursing woman wouldn't be permitted in the kitchen.