I think it's getting fairly annoying...(C-section vent)

tessab2515 · June 2010

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I don't really care. I've been reading some of the posts today and everyone seems to be so up in arms regarding c-sections. While I will completely agree, that if you are able to safely deliver a baby vaginally, by all means try. However, that is not always the case. It seems like everyone is jumping on the BoBB bandwagon and assuming there is some giant conspiracy out there. If you have that little faith in your OB, get a new one!!

I may be reading into some of the posts (and it's not just one I'm thinking of) but it seems like an awful lot of whining that the entire medical profession is out to get them. I understand being disappointed by not getting the birth you initially envisioned. I was disappointed too. However, I have a beautiful, healthy little girl at home, and one on the way, that are here b/c I truly believe my Dr. had my best interest in mind.

Ok, rant over.... Smile

mjj13579 · June 2010

tessab2515:
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I don't really care. I've been reading some of the posts today and everyone seems to be so up in arms regarding c-sections. While I will completely agree, that if you are able to safely deliver a baby vaginally, by all means try. However, that is not always the case. It seems like everyone is jumping on the BoBB bandwagon and assuming there is some giant conspiracy out there. If you have that little faith in your OB, get a new one!!

I may be reading into some of the posts (and it's not just one I'm thinking of) but it seems like an awful lot of whining that the entire medical profession is out to get them. I understand being disappointed by not getting the birth you initially envisioned. I was disappointed too. However, I have a beautiful, healthy little girl at home, and one on the way, that are here b/c I truly believe my Dr. had my best interest in mind.

Ok, rant over....

Yes

vicbabe3 · June 2010

Word.

NewlyWeds13 · June 2010

I fully agree.

Personally I don't care what my birth experience is like as long as everyone is healthy and don't have any lasting medical ramifications, etc.

I am not scared of a natural birth, not scared of a c-section. I personally will likely not get an epidural if I am able to birth vaginally, but that is just my preference. If I have to get a section, no worries. I would much rather a section and healthy baby and mom than stillborn baby or me having a giant hemmorage... so if the doctor says we need one, I will not be waiting.

MomEads · June 2010

Could not agree more!!!

ejh090305 · June 2010

I have to agree. I have not had a c-section, and don't foresee one. BOBB is a movie people. It is extremely one sided. It is no one elses business how you have YOUR baby. It is YOUR body. And besides when you are in full force labor, a number of things can go wrong and you won't get the birth you may have envisioned. Is it fair? No. I also think people get carried away with birth plans. I agree, be educated about what you'd like but expecting a physican or nurse for follow your piece of paper to the letter when they are trying to have a successful delivery (meaning mom and baby are healthy) can be more distracting than helpful. Just leave people alone when they say they are having a c-section. Most likely it isn't their choice and their medically trained physician is most likely doing it for the right reason.....not just on a whim.

CoastieWife08 · June 2010

This is the bump, not real life. The concentration of c/s and inductions on here is much greater and it seems like all anyone does on here is have one or the other.

I am a huge med-free birth advocate, but I can't help but LOL at the "I watched the BOBB and all the Dr's want is money." comments. They obviously didn't pay attention to the true meaning of the film and/or do any other research about childbirth practices. The bottom line wasn't that c/s make Dr's more money. Hell, homebirth midwives get paid, too.

I will say, however, that it saddens me to read "I don't care about the process, I just want my baby out healthy" comments. No one ever wants their baby to come out unhealthy. No one. And, it drives me crazy when women are chastised on either end of the spectrum for their choices...homebirth moms are selfish, c/s moms are selfish. blah blah blah.

The process of childbirth is important, and I think that is where the problem is in our society...no one cares about the process, just the result. The process can be empowering and beautiful (no matter how it ends) and should be savored and really thought about and researched and discussed with health care professionals you trust to guide you in the right direction. It should be talked about openly between women and shared. I wish we lived in a society where childbirth was a community thing (not saying I want my entire family in the delivery room) and it wasn't just something on A Baby Story. That's why I love Birth Circles so much. Childbirth is a hugely important milestone in certain women's lives, and it deserves more attention than it gets.

And, I also have noticed in my 3 or whatever years on the bump that certain posters will spend hours and hours and hours deciding on cribs and carseats and bedding, but think a childbirth class is a waste of a few hours and then come on here asking questions about what a mucous plug is or how to time a contraction. That sickens me.

BlueRidgeMama · June 2010

Well, can we just agree that the c-section rate is unnecessarily high in America right now? Not just because doctors are greedy.

NewlyWeds13 · June 2010

CoastieWife08:

This is the bump, not real life. The concentration of c/s and inductions on here is much greater and it seems like all anyone does on here is have one or the other.

I am a huge med-free birth advocate, but I can't help but LOL at the "I watched the BOBB and all the Dr's want is money." comments. They obviously didn't pay attention to the true meaning of the film and/or do any other research about childbirth practices. The bottom line wasn't that c/s make Dr's more money. Hell, homebirth midwives get paid, too.

I will say, however, that it saddens me to read "I don't care about the process, I just want my baby out healthy" comments. No one ever wants their baby to come out unhealthy. No one. And, it drives me crazy when women are chastised on either end of the spectrum for their choices...homebirth moms are selfish, c/s moms are selfish. blah blah blah.

The process of childbirth is important, and I think that is where the problem is in our society...no one cares about the process, just the result. The process can be empowering and beautiful (no matter how it ends) and should be savored and really thought about and researched and discussed with health care professionals you trust to guide you in the right direction. It should be talked about openly between women and shared. I wish we lived in a society where childbirth was a community thing (not saying I want my entire family in the delivery room) and it wasn't just something on A Baby Story. That's why I love Birth Circles so much. Childbirth is a hugely important milestone in certain women's lives, and it deserves more attention than it gets.

And, I also have noticed in my 3 or whatever years on the bump that certain posters will spend hours and hours and hours deciding on cribs and carseats and bedding, but think a childbirth class is a waste of a few hours and then come on here asking questions about what a mucous plug is or how to time a contraction. That sickens me.

While I respect your opinion, I do think that it is unfair to imply that if someone does not care about the process it means they don't know. i have read a million books, done a lot of research on un-medicated birth, know the labor steps and information very well. BUT-- I don't think that the birth is more important than the result. I do think the result is most important. that is my opinion, but don't assume it is because I am uneducated on the medical aspects of birth. Of course I have "preferences" in terms of how things will be handled, but in terms of fears, my fear of a still born, a major complication or my death are more important to me personally than any of my preferences.

Also-- I would not do a birth circle or involve others in the process for anything. I want it to be private. While I totally agree that "Childbirth is a hugely important milestone in certain women's lives, and it deserves more attention than it gets." that for women who don't see giving birth as that big of an accomplishment (like me for instance... I mean it is natural and your body just does it, again not to offend, but this is just about me).

Will I be proud of my son... yes. Am I excited to be a parent and all that goes into it-- yes. Will I be proud of myself for having any sort of birth (natural or otherwise)... not really.

Way to philosophical for a message board, but just wanted to put another perspective out there.

Jen_3334 · June 2010

I was told right from the get-go that I would need a c-section by both my OB and high-risk doctor (referred to by my OB). They explained why I would need a c-section, and I had to make peace with the idea. While I asked questions to understand my situation, I never questioned their judgment. My ultimate goal is to get through my delivery and have both my son and myself happy and healthy at the end! If this means a c-section, then so be it....

stacymartz · June 2010

ejh090305:
I have to agree. I have not had a c-section, and don't foresee one. BOBB is a movie people. It is extremely one sided. It is no one elses business how you have YOUR baby. It is YOUR body. And besides when you are in full force labor, a number of things can go wrong and you won't get the birth you may have envisioned. Is it fair? No. I also think people get carried away with birth plans. I agree, be educated about what you'd like but expecting a physican or nurse for follow your piece of paper to the letter when they are trying to have a successful delivery (meaning mom and baby are healthy) can be more distracting than helpful. Just leave people alone when they say they are having a c-section. Most likely it isn't their choice and their medically trained physician is most likely doing it for the right reason.....not just on a whim.

THESE items exactly. MYOB for god sakes.

JillAly · June 2010

Considering more women used to die in childbirth than in any other way, I am grateful to be living in a period in history where doctors have the knowledge to perform c-sections to save the mother and child's life.

In fact, I am only alive because of the skill of my doctor who recognized I was severely pre-eclampic (my kidneys had shut down completely) and rushed me to the hospital for a c-section. I never once said "but that's not my birth plan and I want to enjoy the process".

It's great if your pregnancy is uneventful and you have the luxury of choosing your method of birth and whether it's home or at a hospital. I was glad just to survive and to be able to hold my baby in my arms and know he had a mother who lived. I didn't care about the process.

I understand why some women don't want c-sections. Surgery is not fun. However, we should all be grateful that we didn't live 100 or 200 years ago when it wasn't even an option- many of us wouldn't even be alive to complain about it.

mysticporter · June 2010

NewlyWeds13:
CoastieWife08:

This is the bump, not real life. The concentration of c/s and inductions on here is much greater and it seems like all anyone does on here is have one or the other.

I am a huge med-free birth advocate, but I can't help but LOL at the "I watched the BOBB and all the Dr's want is money." comments. They obviously didn't pay attention to the true meaning of the film and/or do any other research about childbirth practices. The bottom line wasn't that c/s make Dr's more money. Hell, homebirth midwives get paid, too.

I will say, however, that it saddens me to read "I don't care about the process, I just want my baby out healthy" comments. No one ever wants their baby to come out unhealthy. No one. And, it drives me crazy when women are chastised on either end of the spectrum for their choices...homebirth moms are selfish, c/s moms are selfish. blah blah blah.

The process of childbirth is important, and I think that is where the problem is in our society...no one cares about the process, just the result. The process can be empowering and beautiful (no matter how it ends) and should be savored and really thought about and researched and discussed with health care professionals you trust to guide you in the right direction.   It should be talked about openly between women and shared. I wish we lived in a society where childbirth was a community thing (not saying I want my entire family in the delivery room) and it wasn't just something on A Baby Story.   That's why I love Birth Circles so much. Childbirth is a hugely important milestone in certain women's lives, and it deserves more attention than it gets.

And, I also have noticed in my 3 or whatever years on the bump that certain posters will spend hours and hours and hours deciding on cribs and carseats and bedding, but think a childbirth class is a waste of a few hours and then come on here asking questions about what a mucous plug is or how to time a contraction. That sickens me.

While I respect your opinion, I do think that it is unfair to imply that if someone does not care about the process it means they don't know. i have read a million books, done a lot of research on un-medicated birth, know the labor steps and information very well.   BUT-- I don't think that the birth is more important than the result. I do think the result is most important. that is my opinion, but don't assume it is because I am uneducated on the medical aspects of birth. Of course I have "preferences" in terms of how things will be handled, but in terms of fears, my fear of a still born, a major complication or my death are more important to me personally than any of my preferences.

Also-- I would not do a birth circle or involve others in the process for anything. I want it to be private. While I totally agree that "Childbirth is a hugely important milestone in certain women's lives, and it deserves more attention than it gets." that for women who don't see giving birth as that big of an accomplishment (like me for instance... I mean it is natural and your body just does it, again not to offend, but this is just about me).

Will I be proud of my son... yes. Am I excited to be a parent and all that goes into it-- yes.   Will I be proud of myself for having any sort of birth (natural or otherwise)... not really.

Way to philosophical for a message board, but just wanted to put another perspective out there.

Yes

Also, "I don't care about the process, just the result" is *not* the same as saying "People who care about the process don't care about the result". Personally, the 'experience of childbirth' from some kind of an empowerment standpoint holds no interest whatsoever for me. I've done my research, but my focus is on outcome. Why should it matter to anyone else that I feel that way, or want to tell me that I should change my personal view of my own childbirth, as solely a means to an end, to conform to their view of their childbirth?

MeanMommyLady · June 2010

CoastieWife08:
The process can be empowering and beautiful (no matter how it ends) and should be savored and really thought about and researched and discussed with health care professionals you trust to guide you in the right direction. It should be talked about openly between women and shared. I wish we lived in a society where childbirth was a community thing (not saying I want my entire family in the delivery room) and it wasn't just something on A Baby Story.
And, I also have noticed in my 3 or whatever years on the bump that certain posters will spend hours and hours and hours deciding on cribs and carseats and bedding, but think a childbirth class is a waste of a few hours and then come on here asking questions about what a mucous plug is or how to time a contraction. That sickens me.

The bolded part is how I feel (except for the italicized part which I think should read "as long as it ends with a healthy mom and baby(ies)"). I am a c-section mom, I'm tired of being told by the natural mom's that I was robbed of some mythical perfect birth experience. I had a satisfying birth experience with DS (even though my plan of a med-free birth turned into an unplanned c-section), I don't feel like I was "robbed" of anything and I'm pretty sick of the "au naturals" telling me I was. I am having a repeat c-section this time and can promise it too will be a satisfying experience as long as me and my new baby are healthy at the end of it.

The part about researching baby gear but not knowing anything about childbirth or how your body works also floors me and I am surprised how much we see it here.

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