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Ok, another sleep question (kinda long)

I know, you're bored of these, but I need some opinions.

B is sleeping horribly.  I'm wondering if it's the age or I need to implement some sort of sleep training. 

He takes a good am nap with me for about 2 hours.  We do this every morning and have been doing this for about 4 months.  He takes his afternoon nap in his crib, and only sleeps for about 45 minutes.  At night he sleeps in his crib, with a noise machine, fan, and it's dark and the door's closed.  He wakes at 11, 3, 4:30 and needs to nurse to get back to sleep.  He comes into our bed at his 4:30 waking and nurses and sleeps until 6-6:30. 

Now, it is taking a super long time to go down for naps and to bed.  He nurses until drowsy and used to go into his crib and go to sleep fine.  He now goes in his crib and wakes up and cries.  This happens 2 times, then I pick him back up, nurse till drowsy a 3rd time and can get him back in the crib fine.  Last night he wouldn't be put down at bedtime and I even held him after he fell asleep for about 10 mins before putting him down.  It seriously took about 45 minutes to get him calm and able to be put into his crib and stay asleep.

AND. . . for the past few nights he'll wake up and not go back down for an hour or two.  I'll do the same thing we do every single night; nurse then back in the crib.  Nope, he refuses to be put down.  We go back and forth several times and I even let him cry for 10-15 mins and all that does is make him 10x more angry. 

I need help!  

Re: Ok, another sleep question (kinda long)

  • I guess that wasn't really a question.  Any ideas or words of encouragement?
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  • It seems like he might be ready to find a new sleep association - one to replace the one which is losing its effectiveness (nursing). That's of course just a guess! Will he take a pacifier? Can you put him down after your sure he's full and soothe him there with patting, singing, shushing or whatever he responds to? In other words, I would try nursing before bedtime and putting him down/continuing to soothe him and NOT nurse him again and again until he falls asleep. Do this for each night waking as well. It will probably take a while, but once he reprograms to a different (and eventually, less involved) sleep cue, I think you can fade from there.

    I would also like to ask what his awake intervals are. When does he go down for his first nap, second nap and bedtime?

    I'm not sure if it makes a difference, but I've nursed all three of mine and remember the nursing-to-sleep vs. soothing-to-sleep transition with all of them. You'll find a way!

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    Different methods of sleep training out there.  I just did CIO and it works better with DS if I don't even go in the room but sounds like he needs to learn to put himself back to sleep.  You could do some research and see what method best fits your son....even try the sitting by the crib till he falls back to sleep and move chair closer to the door.  Good luck and NO sleep for mommy isn't fun!!!   Been there!!
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  • First of all LOVE your DS's name!  We chose the same one for our son!  2nd:  Our Brody was waking up ALOT at night and wouldn't stop screaming until we would go pick him up.  It was really hard but we finally decided try the CIO method (going into him after 5-10 minutes of crying, calming him down without picking him up and leaving-he would usually start wailing as soon as we walked away but we would wait 5+ more minutes and do it again).  WORKED LIKE A CHARM!  It took a couple of nights, but each night got better and better.  Now we put him to bed (after a routine we have used for months) and he stays in there all night.  Infact now...if he wakes up and DH and I aren't up yet, he just hangs out in his crib until we get up and usually ends up falling back to sleep himself!  It is EXCELLENT! 

    Another thing to consider is to maybe feed him rice cereal before you but him to bed.  This will help keep him feeling fuller longer so he will hopefully wake up less thinking he needs to eat.

    Best of Luck!  Hope you guys find something that works!

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    It seems like he might be ready to find a new sleep association - one to replace the one which is losing its effectiveness (nursing). That's of course just a guess! Will he take a pacifier? Can you put him down after your sure he's full and soothe him there with patting, singing, shushing or whatever he responds to? In other words, I would try nursing before bedtime and putting him down/continuing to soothe him and NOT nurse him again and again until he falls asleep. Do this for each night waking as well. It will probably take a while, but once he reprograms to a different (and eventually, less involved) sleep cue, I think you can fade from there.

    I would also like to ask what his awake intervals are. When does he go down for his first nap, second nap and bedtime?

    I'm not sure if it makes a difference, but I've nursed all three of mine and remember the nursing-to-sleep vs. soothing-to-sleep transition with all of them. You'll find a way!

    He wakes at 6am and plays with DH until he's ready for his am nap, usually around 8.  He'll lay with me in bed and nurse and fall asleep and sleep about 2 hours.  He's awake from 10-1, then needs another nap.  He'll nap in his crib for about 45 minutes.  He's up from about 2 to 6.  Bedtime is between 6 and 7, depending on his cues.  Bedtime usually goes smoothly- we do a bath every few nights, close the shades, a nighttime diaper, jammies, turn off the light, and nurse both sides until drowsy.  Then I can put him in the crib, he rolls to his right side and goes to sleep.  He'll sleep for about 4 hours then need to nurse again. 

    I know he's waking up out of habit at this point because he eats tons during the day and only nurses before naps, sometimes after naps.  The occasional nursing throughout the day if he wants it.  

  • I don't have any advise, because I'm in the same boat. I'm glad to at least hear your story, and know there is someone out there with the same problem. People think I'm crazy when I tell them my 10 month old is not sleeping through the night...and requires that I BF in the middle of the night in order to even attempt putting her back in her crib.

     Hope you find some resolve!

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    First of all LOVE your DS's name!  We chose the same one for our son!  2nd:  Our Brody was waking up ALOT at night and wouldn't stop screaming until we would go pick him up.  It was really hard but we finally decided try the CIO method (going into him after 5-10 minutes of crying, calming him down without picking him up and leaving-he would usually start wailing as soon as we walked away but we would wait 5+ more minutes and do it again).  WORKED LIKE A CHARM!  It took a couple of nights, but each night got better and better.  Now we put him to bed (after a routine we have used for months) and he stays in there all night.  Infact now...if he wakes up and DH and I aren't up yet, he just hangs out in his crib until we get up and usually ends up falling back to sleep himself!  It is EXCELLENT! 

    Another thing to consider is to maybe feed him rice cereal before you but him to bed.  This will help keep him feeling fuller longer so he will hopefully wake up less thinking he needs to eat.

    Best of Luck!  Hope you guys find something that works!

    We have actually tried a modified version of Ferber but he wasn't ready for it.  It really caused much more stress than it was worth.  Now I know he's ready to sleep better because he's old enough and is eating enough during the day.  No more drawn out wakings during the night would be great- no more waking would be even better. He eats a regular dinner with us, so I know he eats enough before bedtime.

     

    Brody's are the best!  Luckily I haven't met a lot of them!

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