My friend was denied an IUD

mlc92404 · May 2010

Her Dr's office wont do it because they say its like an abortion because you still could get pg on it (her words, not mine) and they are against abortions (this post isnt about getting into an argument for or against abortions). Cant you technically get pg on ANY form of BC since none are 100% effective? They did end up giving her the depo shot.

tarebear9891 · May 2010

I would switch doctors immediately. The only 100% effective birth control is no sex at all.

WyWysMommy · May 2010

I would have headed for the door and told them not to file for the insurance claim because I wouldn't pay for an appt where my DR denies me a form of BC because they don't like it, but are ok with others. Its one thing to deny BC because of health risks, but for that reason? No.

She definitely needs a new Dr!

mlc92404 · May 2010

She doesnt have a job and isnt married yet so Im not real sure what she has as far as health insurance so I think she may be limited to where she can go. That said, I would think she could go to the health department???? I was just SHOCKED

alli2672 · May 2010

I think that maybe your friend misunderstood, and the problem is that the IUD works by making the uterine lining "inhospitible" for the embryo, and some people believe that is an abortion (I think).

Anyway, your friend may want to find a less religious doctor. What if she does want to have an abortion or get a tubal or something one day? She should probably see someone who has a more expanded view of the available options for BC.

WyWysMommy · May 2010

Does she have any kids yet? Because my friend wanted an IUD but her DR told her she couldn't because she didn't have any kids yet. Something about the cervix opening and can cause damage to women who have never been pregnant.

Sunny1inTucson · May 2010

that doesn't really make much sense to me. it seems like you either agree with both or you don't. and you can get pregnant using any kind of BC.

although depo prevents mature egg from releasing, it's also irritates the uterine lining. in the pamphlet for IUDs they explicitly say they don't even know for sure how it works, but the theory is it affects the way the sperm move in addition to irritating the uterine lining. mirena also is supposed to affect the egg with its hormone.

of course, there may be other issues with getting an IUD: if she hasn't had a kid before it's not generally recommended. and if she's planning on getting pregnant again soon, it's not cost effective for insurance or payment out of pocket.

regardless, she should find another doctor if she doesn't agree with their views.

DG1 · May 2010

WyWysMommy:
Does she have any kids yet? Because my friend wanted an IUD but her DR told her she couldn't because she didn't have any kids yet. Something about the cervix opening and can cause damage to women who have never been pregnant.

It's just really really hard to put in. My doc advised against it because I had never had a vaginal birth (2 c/s with no real dilation before either).

But really, WTF at that, unless they are providing the service as a religious charity, I think that's actually illegal.

She can go to the health department or planned parenthood. This is EXACTLY why I donate to PP every year. WTF.

mlc92404 · May 2010

She does have one child and she does not plan on getting pg again for some time. She is getting married in Sep so Im hoping she can get on better insurance and find a better dr

mlc92404 · May 2010

She is pretty naive about a lot of this stuff so I think she just went along with whatever her dr told her. Either way, I dont agree with it but she already got the shot so not much she can do till she would need the next shot I would imagine

tarebear9891 · May 2010

My doc told me he didn't recommend IUDs for anyone ever planning on having more children. But that is besides the point...her doc made that decision for her.

alli2672 · May 2010

DG1:

But really, WTF at that, unless they are providing the service as a religious charity, I think that's actually illegal.

It's not illegal. You can't force people to do something against their religious beliefs. Even if they are physicians.

It's an odd decision to go into OB if you have that particular point of view, but that's not illegal either.

Sunny1inTucson · May 2010

tarebear9891:
My doc told me he didn't recommend IUDs for anyone ever planning on having more children.

whoa!

LaurenL1976 · May 2010

WyWysMommy:
I would have headed for the door and told them not to file for the insurance claim because I wouldn't pay for an appt where my DR denies me a form of BC because they don't like it, but are ok with others. Its one thing to deny BC because of health risks, but for that reason? No.

She definitely needs a new Dr!

I agree

violetvirgo · May 2010

alli2672:
DG1:

But really, WTF at that, unless they are providing the service as a religious charity, I think that's actually illegal.

It's not illegal. You can't force people to do something against their religious beliefs. Even if they are physicians.

It's an odd decision to go into OB if you have that particular point of view, but that's not illegal either.

you're right, it's not illegal, but imo if you want to be a dr. you need to leave your religious bullshit at the door.

lona.hunn@gmail.com · May 2010

My doctor actually said something very similar. The IUD does not prevent a pregancy from occurring. You still ovulate and can conceive, but it prevents the embryo from implanting in your uterus. So they are some people who are against these types of BC. I also work for a catholic hospital and there are a lot of things they don't do or perform. Not a shocker..

ElizC · May 2010

violetvirgo:
alli2672:
DG1:

But really, WTF at that, unless they are providing the service as a religious charity, I think that's actually illegal.

It's not illegal. You can't force people to do something against their religious beliefs. Even if they are physicians.

It's an odd decision to go into OB if you have that particular point of view, but that's not illegal either.
you're right, it's not illegal, but imo if you want to be a dr. you need to leave your religious bullshit at the door.

not illegal at all. I know there are few hospitals in Michigan that will not do tubaligations. Also some of the Obs have extreme views on BC.

SummerMama12 · May 2010

My doc told me he didn't recommend IUDs for anyone ever planning on having more children.

Wow, really? It's so interesting how doctors' opinions on it differ. My OB (herself a fairly new mom) RAVES about it and was thrilled when I decided to get one, knowing we'd be TTC again in a few years. I'm curious what your doctor feels the risk is.

JessiRaye · May 2010

SummerMama12:

My doc told me he didn't recommend IUDs for anyone ever planning on having more children.

Wow, really? It's so interesting how doctors' opinions on it differ. My OB (herself a fairly new mom) RAVES about it and was thrilled when I decided to get one, knowing we'd be TTC again in a few years. I'm curious what your doctor feels the risk is.

I read that a long time ago (in the 70's maybe??) a specific type of IUD caused more incidence of Pelvic Inflammatory Disease. And PID can cause fertility problems. Maybe some OBs still have that 'old mindset'??

Coleslawcat · May 2010

My OB also will not prescribe any birth control, they do teach their patients NFP/FAM methods. But his office is very upfront about that. They won't let you schedule an appointment without being very clear on that front. Plus the waiting room is covered with signs making that very clear. I don't see how anyone could end up having an appointment with my doctor unless they were well aware of his policy. I don't mind at all since I happen to agree with him and I'm glad to have a doctor who is so knowledgable about NFP since most aren't. I also think if a doctor is going to have that policy they should be very upfront with is as my doctor is, so no one wastes time or money. If someone calls the office and wants that service his front staff directs them to another OB office located in the same complex that does offer that.

AnneEB · May 2010

After my DS was born, I wanted to get on BC of some kind, but since I was seeing a group of midwives who worked for a Catholic hospital, they wouldn't do it. But she was totally supportive and wrote me a prescription for an IUD, but I just had to have it done at a different office from theirs. Some offices have religious policies like that. I guess your friend needs to find another doctor.

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