2nd Trimester

PSA: Thinking About Using Pampers? Something You Should Know First

Let me just say that I am no way saying you need to CD.  This is just to let everyone know that Pampers' newest and most widely available diaper (to include Swaddlers) with the Dry Max technology is not the best disposable choice out there and may pose several risks to your child(ren).

I received a pkg in the mail today from Pampers that included a NB Swaddler diaper with Drymax technology.  I've heard of kids being chemical burned from the filler in these, and wanted to see "the guts" for myself.

From the inside out:

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Waxy feeling mesh (this is what touches baby's bottom & is the ONLY layer I cut in the then entire diaper).

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A dryer sheet (also touches baby's bottom thru the mesh.  Very coarse & easily tears)

Stuffing like filling w/ gritty little tiny beads

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Another dryer sheet (which I did NOT cut)

A layer of the absorbant beads (very, very, very thing layer.  I didn't even know there were there until I added water)

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Soft, thin cotton-like material (the very outside of the diaper, and oddly, the softest and least waxy feeling part of the entire diaper)

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The very first dryer sheet (the one right under the mesh) is not attatched on the sides, so if baby pees, and the beads & fiber swell, it can (and appearently does) come out from under the dryer sheet and come in direct contact with a child's bottom, thus leading to chemical burns.

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Also, after I played with diaper few a bit, before cutting it, the fill started comming out like dust.  So if a child gets into their diaper bag, they can INHALE the dust pretty damnn easily.  Or get it in their mouth or eyes.

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Oh, and blowouts are guaranteed, since there is no elastic in the back, and the top 4" of the back of a NB diaper is just mesh, dryer sheet & plastic, all glued tightly together.

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Then I added 1/2 a cup of water to the diaper after pulling out the 1st dryer sheet & the fiber filling.

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And in about 45 SECONDS, the "seam" by the leg opening split open to reveal it's lovely contents:

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(sorry, the beads by themselves don't photograph very well, so I had to scoop them with my hand for you to see)

See those beads?  They are reported to chemically react with the amonia in pee and cause chemical burns after comming in contact with baby's skin.

 

 

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Re: PSA: Thinking About Using Pampers? Something You Should Know First

  • Oh wow! Good to know. I registered for Pampers Swaddlers. Maybe I better do some more research...
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  • wow. So this is only the pampers with dry max technology?
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    I've been hearing about this for awhile - the chemical burns and all. I was never a fan of pampers anyway and hadn't planned on using any of them. But great "detective" work!
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  • I have heard nothing but BAD things about dry max! Pampers even had to release a statement about it since they received an overwhelming negative response about it.

    It's a shame, too, b/c they used to be nice. They used pampers only in our NICU and I hope they don't anymore!

    Just an FYI- all disposable diapers have gel beads in them to absorb wetness. If they stay on your LO too long, you will find them on your LOs heiny.

     

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  • Oh MYLANTA! That's scary stuff! I'm not even close to thinking about diapers yet and probably wouldn't have looked into it that closely because I'm one of those naive people that thinks if it's on the market it's safe for the most part. Thank you!
  • But they are so squeezably soft!

     

  • WOW, I didn't realize that.  I registered for Pampers Swadlers, I am going to have to change that.

    What are the good disposable diapers?

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  • Crazy!

    Note to self: Do more diaper research before stocking up.

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  • imageCourtneyR2N:

    WOW, I didn't realize that.  I registered for Pampers Swadlers, I am going to have to change that.

    What are the good disposable diapers?

    These gBaby diapers seem to be all the rage, albeit more expensive.

    I was a fan of Pampers pre-dry max, but also of Huggies Supreme.

    It's like bottles though, your baby may have reactions to certain types, etc.

  • Those look like the old style of swaddlers - not the new dry max ones???  The new ones don't have the mesh liner (or the beads - I think!)

    ???

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  • For what it's worth, I've used Pampers on DD from day one and have never had any problems.  She's rarely even had a diaper rash. 
    I'm fairly certain you'll find absorbent beads in any disposable.
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  • This is one of the reasons I have been doing so much homework on CDs! Scary!
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  • DS got the chemical burn from the new Pampers three weeks ago and we tossed them and switched brands. 

    Nice detective work! 

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  • That's crazy.

    We used Pampers with DD for the first few months, Huggies never fit - we used 1/2 a pack and got sick of the leaking and haven't gone back. She was in preemie and then NB diapers for awhile so if we have another small baby I have no idea what brand do use if Huggies don't work again.

    We've been using Luvs since she got to size 1 though and we love those. I don't think they make them in NB size but I could be wrong. 

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  • Getting conflicting information on such an important issue from the same message board is infuriating.

     

    https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/36651092.aspx

  • From the research I have done (may be wrong) not all Pampers are now dry max.  I originally registered for the Swaddlers dry max but recently changed to the Swaddlers sensitive.  To my knowledge the sensitive does not have dry max and continues to get great reviews.  I also just bought a box of regular size 1 Swaddlers and they are not dry max. 

     

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  • You all do realize that nothing this chick said proves that Dry Max causes chemical burns, right?

    We have been using them with no problems.  I am sure it's possible that some kids do have reactions to them, and that is awful.  But please don't take this chick's "experiment" as proof of anything.

     

  • imagemarie&david1028:
    For what it's worth, I've used Pampers on DD from day one and have never had any problems.  She's rarely even had a diaper rash. 
    I'm fairly certain you'll find absorbent beads in any disposable.

    Us too!

  • I have been using Pampers for 10 months.

    She has never had diaper rash.  Ever.  I know that is unusual for a baby her age to have never had diaper rash but it is the honest truth.  Even when she goes 12 hours overnight without a diaper change (in Pampers Baby Dry - their 12 hour diaper) she wakes up dry and without rash. 

    Those beads have never come in contact with her skin.  Even now that she is crawling around the diaper has never come apart on her.

    She has just as many blowouts as my friends who CD.  Blowouts are common in babies because their poop is runny (particularly BFed babies).  Get used to it.

    The "chemical burns" rumors running around are unfounded.  If they were proven the FDA would pull the diapers off the market.  What is happening is that women are claiming that their severe diaper rash (which happens in CDs too sometimes) are burns. 

    I get that some people dont' like the new Pampers and are disappointed.  THat is fine.  But to claim that they are a hazard to your child's health is a little over the top IMO.

    Try different diapers.  Use the ones you like best.  Period. 

  • One of my friends babies has a rash/burn from this diaper.
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  • OP, you have way too much time on your hands...

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    Just an FYI- all disposable diapers have gel beads in them to absorb wetness. If they stay on your LO too long, you will find them on your LOs heiny.

     

    Just FYI there is one brand that is gel free...Tushies.  You van buy them on diapers.com.  The wipes are great too.
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    Getting conflicting information on such an important issue from the same message board is infuriating.

     

    https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/36651092.aspx

    I truly hope that you are not taking the information you get from these boards as fact.  Do your research and make your decisions, but do NOT rely on the opinions of strangers to make your decisions for you!  That is all that this post is, an OPINION.  

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  • I used Pampers swaddlers and then Cruisers on DS1 until he was PT'ed with no trouble. I've used Pampers swaddlers and now Cruisers on DS2 and he will be starting to PT shortly. No troubles there either! I plan to stay away from DryMax just because we use the Cruisers since they have so much elastic. My children's legs have been chunky the last 2 times and we assume this one will be as well. Just use the regular Pampers if DryMax gives you trouble. I think people need to do their own research or go to reputable sources for information. :)
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  • imagesweetheart18:

    I have been using Pampers for 10 months.

    She has never had diaper rash.  Ever.  I know that is unusual for a baby her age to have never had diaper rash but it is the honest truth.  Even when she goes 12 hours overnight without a diaper change (in Pampers Baby Dry - their 12 hour diaper) she wakes up dry and without rash. 

    Those beads have never come in contact with her skin.  Even now that she is crawling around the diaper has never come apart on her.

    She has just as many blowouts as my friends who CD.  Blowouts are common in babies because their poop is runny (particularly BFed babies).  Get used to it.

    The "chemical burns" rumors running around are unfounded.  If they were proven the FDA would pull the diapers off the market.  What is happening is that women are claiming that their severe diaper rash (which happens in CDs too sometimes) are burns. 

    I get that some people dont' like the new Pampers and are disappointed.  THat is fine.  But to claim that they are a hazard to your child's health is a little over the top IMO.

    Try different diapers.  Use the ones you like best.  Period. 

    First, the dry max technology was only just released recently, so the last 10 months is not particularly relevant to the current issue.  

    Also, recalls on products do not always happen as fast as they should, and just because the product has not yet been recalled does not mean the product isn't failing.  That's putting too much faith in the FDA, which doesn't have a very stellar track record to start with. 

    "What is happening is that women are claiming that their severe diaper rash (which happens in CDs too sometimes) are burns. 

    I get that some people dont' like the new Pampers and are disappointed.  THat is fine.  But to claim that they are a hazard to your child's health is a little over the top IMO."

    Seriously?  How would you know?  You are dismissing these women as over-reacting to a severe diaper rash, but have you been to their homes and seen their babies?  I haven't either, and I wouldn't presume to know what it is that they are seeing on their own children.  In case you weren't aware of this, women are claiming more than just "sever diaper rash" - they are also claiming burns and ulcerations in their children.   

    I don't know if it is dry max that is causing the issue, but time will tell.  I'll reserve judgment until that time - both for the diaper, AND for the women who believe these diapers have caused their children harm

     

     

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  • You're like, totally, a SCIENTIST for real!
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  • imagedavidandmickey:
    imagesweetheart18:

    I have been using Pampers for 10 months.

    She has never had diaper rash.  Ever.  I know that is unusual for a baby her age to have never had diaper rash but it is the honest truth.  Even when she goes 12 hours overnight without a diaper change (in Pampers Baby Dry - their 12 hour diaper) she wakes up dry and without rash. 

    Those beads have never come in contact with her skin.  Even now that she is crawling around the diaper has never come apart on her.

    She has just as many blowouts as my friends who CD.  Blowouts are common in babies because their poop is runny (particularly BFed babies).  Get used to it.

    The "chemical burns" rumors running around are unfounded.  If they were proven the FDA would pull the diapers off the market.  What is happening is that women are claiming that their severe diaper rash (which happens in CDs too sometimes) are burns. 

    I get that some people dont' like the new Pampers and are disappointed.  THat is fine.  But to claim that they are a hazard to your child's health is a little over the top IMO.

    Try different diapers.  Use the ones you like best.  Period. 

    First, the dry max technology was only just released recently, so the last 10 months is not particularly relevant to the current issue.  

    Also, recalls on products do not always happen as fast as they should, and just because the product has not yet been recalled does not mean the product isn't failing.  That's putting too much faith in the FDA, which doesn't have a very stellar track record to start with. 

    "What is happening is that women are claiming that their severe diaper rash (which happens in CDs too sometimes) are burns. 

    I get that some people dont' like the new Pampers and are disappointed.  THat is fine.  But to claim that they are a hazard to your child's health is a little over the top IMO."

    Seriously?  How would you know?  You are dismissing these women as over-reacting to a severe diaper rash, but have you been to their homes and seen their babies?  I haven't either, and I wouldn't presume to know what it is that they are seeing on their own children.  In case you weren't aware of this, women are claiming more than just "sever diaper rash" - they are also claiming burns and ulcerations in their children.   

    I don't know if it is dry max that is causing the issue, but time will tell.  I'll reserve judgment until that time - both for the diaper, AND for the women who believe these diapers have caused their children harm

     

     

    Take a chill pill.

    The dry max has been out for a few months. So I have used hundreds of the dry max diapers already and have just as much right to post my experience with rash/no rash as the ladies who claim their children have been harmed.

    Diapers are a personal thing.  Some babies are sensitive (very sensitive) to dryer sheets and laundry detergent.  Some babies are sensitive to lotions - even mild ones like Aveeno and Burt's Bees.  Some babies are sensitive to wipes that do/don't have certain ingredients.  Babies have sensitive skin.

    So when a diaper company changes it's composition - some of the babies that did fine on the old Pampers are going to have trouble with the new ones.  It is inevitable.  Bad diaper rash looks a lot like a burn.  There is bleeding, redness, peeling, etc.  I have read a lot about this issue (one article given to me by a friend who is a Pediatrician and got her hands on the independent study) and there is no PROOF other than anecdotal stories on message boards like this one that Pampers has caused any chemical burns in children.  Maybe the rashes LOOK like burns (which they often do) but there has been no evidence of real chemical burns.

    So no, I don't live everywhere and see every rash.  My point was my final sentence - try lots of diapers.  Pick the ones you want.  But the way people are reacting to the Pampers change is really over-the-top IMO.  How hard it is to change diapers if the Dry Max isn't working well with your child's tush?  Not so hard.  Chill.

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