TTC After a Loss

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so yesterday one of the mw's at work told me that a client, T, said that she wondered how good of a mw i could be since i didn't have any children of my own.  Indifferent  she didn't say it rude, just that she was concerned about it and my ability to help her thru childbirth. 

the mw told T that one does not have to personally experience something to be able to help another thru it. 

~ what about male OBs, they obviously haven't been thru it. 

~ what about cancer dr's or nurses that haven't had cancer.

~ what about anesthesiologists that have never been put to sleep.

~ what about STFU, you stupid FH.  i haven't had a baby because i have a fertility problem.  thanks, for hurting my feelings and making me feel even more inadequate than i already do. 

do you guys think that someone needs to have experienced something in order to help another?

 

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    so yesterday one of the mw's at work told me that a client, T, said that she wondered how good of a mw i could be since i didn't have any children of my own.  Indifferent  she didn't say it rude, just that she was concerned about it and my ability to help her thru childbirth. 

    the mw told T that one does not have to personally experience something to be able to help another thru it. 

    ~ what about male OBs, they obviously haven't been thru it. 

    ~ what about cancer dr's or nurses that haven't had cancer.

    ~ what about anesthesiologists that have never been put to sleep.

    ~ what about STFU, you stupid FH.  i haven't had a baby because i have a fertility problem.  thanks, for hurting my feelings and making me feel even more inadequate than i already do. 

    do you guys think that someone needs to have experienced something in order to help another?

     

    that would piss me off...I agree with all of your statements ...when I worked in L&D one of the best midwives we ever had was single with no children....you can be my midwife if I ever get pregnantBig Smile
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  • I'm so sorry.  I agree with you 100%. 
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  • No, and I think that was a rude, ignorant comment.  I actually prefer my male OB.  I had to see a female once and thought she was much rougher and non caring than he is.  So for me, that certainly doesn't apply.

    The thing that really bothers me about it is she has no idea what you have been through in life and to throw a comment like that out "you don't have kids" can be very hurtful to someone who does have fertility problems. 

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    ~ what about STFU, you stupid FH.  i haven't had a baby because i have a fertility problem.  thanks, for hurting my feelings and making me feel even more inadequate than i already do. 

    Yes

    Ugh, WTH?    

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  • I couldn't agree with you more, I don't think someone has to experience something to help someone else out. I bet you're an awesome MW, and I would be glad to have you!
  • I am so sorry that they said that to you!  I am curious about how you responded.  To answer your question, No, I do not think that you have to experience it to help another...you raised completely valid points to support that.  Plus, everyone experiences labor differently.
  • imageTexas77again:

    so yesterday one of the mw's at work told me that a client, T, said that she wondered how good of a mw i could be since i didn't have any children of my own.  Indifferent  she didn't say it rude, just that she was concerned about it and my ability to help her thru childbirth. 

    the mw told T that one does not have to personally experience something to be able to help another thru it. 

    ~ what about male OBs, they obviously haven't been thru it. 

    ~ what about cancer dr's or nurses that haven't had cancer.

    ~ what about anesthesiologists that have never been put to sleep.

    ~ what about STFU, you stupid FH.  i haven't had a baby because i have a fertility problem.  thanks, for hurting my feelings and making me feel even more inadequate than i already do. 

    do you guys think that someone needs to have experienced something in order to help another?

     

    THAT is the only answer she deserves. And obviously, I think she's a giant toolbag who would be LUCKY to have someone as awesome as you.

  • I would absolutely take offense to that!!!!! I don't really care how she said it. I think it's rude. Granted, she doesn't know your situation, but that doesn't give her an excuse. You're obviously in the field b/c you love it and if you weren't good at what you do, then you wouldn't succeed. She really is an FH.
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  • thanks ladies! i feel better about it.  i was trying to act like it didn't hurt my feelings but it did.  i am sensitive about IF and the such.  i feel like i am being punished for not having the very thing that i want most right now. 
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  • What an awful thing for her to say....{{{{{HUGS}}}}}
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  • No I think you can be trained to help someone through it, but I do think that it is possible that someone who has experienced it for themselves might have something more to bring to the table.  Maybe not, but it's a possibility.  Would someone even consider that with a male OB? No, doubt it.  But I see how it can come up in what you do since your clients aren't thinking about birth as a medical event and therefore might not be as focused on someone's training as a qualification.  Hopefully being corrected by the midwife was enough to stop her from making giving birth a criteria.

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  • I take care of children and parents always ask me if I have children. When I say no, they always look at me like I know nothing. Excuse me, I have experience and educational background to do my job. All you had to do was forget a condom!
  • What a fh. I don't believe someone has had to experience something to be able to help. I had an awesome nurse at the hospital who hadn't been through what I have,but she knew what to say and was amazing.

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  • I'd go with STFU, FH. You are a trained professional. I interpret for felons, but I've never committed a felony. I guess I can't be all that good at my job either. Sheesh.

    FWIW, my naturopath, who is also a midwife, has never had a baby. And when/if I ever get a sticky baby, I want her to be my midwife for my pregnancy. I trust her as a professional, even though she hasn't done it herself yet. 

  • Absolutely not- there are a thousand different examples of people helping people that haven't been through the same thing. She is an ignorant tool and I hate the universe that she's pregnant before you are.
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  • I'm so sorry, you are 100% correct with all of your statements. ((HUGS)) 
  • Wow, that's rude of her to say! I'm sorry your feelings were hurt. I don't think you have to experience something to help someone through it. Of course, you can't truly understand what they're feeling if you haven't experienced it, but it doesn't mean you can't help. If that were the case then all of the people you mentioned above would be out of a job.

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  • Ugh - what an a$$!!!

    No, you don't have to have the experience of going through labor to be a good mw. Men can't get pap-smears, and they're OB's! Some people don't think before they speak.

  • What a crappy thing to say! I think you can help people even if you don't have the experience. I know you are a wonderful MW!
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  • I am so sorry! I would be so pissed off, and I agree with all of your statements. I am sure you are a beyond amazing MW and she would be lucky to have you. Stupid FH.
  • (((hugs))) That was a sh*tty thing to say.  I'm sorry honey.
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  • I'm so sorry that you had to deal with that. I agree with you that you don't have to go through something to know how to deal with it. (HUGS)
  • That is the stupidest sh!t ever to come out of a FH's mouth.  No, I do not think that someone has to go through something personally to be able to help people.  You are a MW and you have your professional experience to work with.  You have helped many other women go through their pregnancies, through labor and even losses.  Tell douchy mcdoucherson to STFU because she is the reason I HATE FH's.  You are an awesome MW Angelica.  She is just a dumb motherfvcker.
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