i dont understand-religion

mistywhite400 · April 2010

I don't mean this hateful or judgemental in any way...but the religion post below got me thinking. after being pregnant, I don't see how people don't believe in god. Its such a miracal in itself! Everything has to be just perfect to even get pregnant much less have a heathly thriving child! It can't all just be chance! JMO but I look at my little girl and think wow I grew you without any effort or work on my part (other than the obvious) and she's perfect. Again, not judging anyone for their beliefs...just a thought!

ToledoDeux · April 2010

It's biology.

wordtoyourmother · April 2010

ToledoDeux:
It's biology.

I don't think I've expressed this before, but your responses crack me the hell up. That is all.

mistywhite400 · April 2010

I get that but something/someone had to create us to work that way! Sorry I guess that's my point.

DollyPants · April 2010

*grabs popcorn*

hriesen4 · April 2010

ToledoDeux:
It's biology.

::giggles::

12bailey18 · April 2010

I completely agree.

SeaMama · April 2010

ToledoDeux:
It's biology.

.THIS...AND there are plenty of pregnancies that end in miscarriage most likely because everything DIDN'T go "perfectly".

kimberlyk921 · April 2010

i completely agree, i was raised in church all my life, but never saw God's face until i looked at my newborn baby.

mistywhite400 · April 2010

SeaMama:
ToledoDeux:
It's biology.

.THIS...AND there are plenty of pregnancies that end in miscarriage most likely because everything DIDN'T go "perfectly".

Sure there are and its horrible and couldn't imagine what that's like! But just b/c things don't go right or bad things happen doesn't mean there isn't a god. But that is just what I believe. I am in no way trying to change anyones beliefs just like no one can change mine. I was just throwing my random thought of the day out there!

dionnemd10 · April 2010

i know there is a god because he gives me patience to deal with my toddler on a daily basis! (see the marker photo a few posts down--washable marker thankfully but still). not only is pg, birth a miracle surviving parenthood is as well (seriously somedays i am very glad my children are cute-i joke that it saves them)

i am a firm beliver in fate as well though. but it intertwines with a higher powers plan for me if that makes sense. i was meant to meet my hubby when i did, i was meant to have my children, i am meant to be typing this right now.

JustJanie · April 2010

Lol... this reminds me of a great story.

My second pap smear ever was before I got married when I was 25. DH and were not sexually active until we got married and we were both virgins, so I didn't really need to get them. I had no health insurance so I went to see a midwife at the health department. She didn't see many patients like me (her words, not mine).

Anyway, so she was really weird about the no sex thing. She kept trying to give me "advice" (lol). She wrote down the name of some books (including The Joy of Sex) for me to "research." She just ate it up...

AND... DH and I are ministers, so that just made things better (haha). When she was doing the pap smear, she handed me a mirror. I was pretty uncomfortable with my body at this point and didn't really want to see my cervix thankyouverymuch. I tried to resist, but my efforts were futile. She "made" me look, then said, "Every time I see that tiny hole, I think about how a baby comes out of there and I know there is a God."

I almost peed on myself it was so funny. Sunsets and mountains always worked for me! ::shrug::

redhotchili83 · April 2010

IDK, i think if humans are the highest evolved creatures in the universe, thats pretty pathetic. People kinda suck

Firemn'sFlame · April 2010

I agree completly also. How can life just come by chance? Take our planet for instance. If the earth was just a bit closer/further from the sun we would either freeze to death or be fried. God does exist and I'm so happy he gave me my 2 beautiful boys.

Tonya_G · April 2010

I fully believe in evolution and other scientific theory about how our world/universe began... but the question that science still cannot answer for me is, where did that Big Bang come from? I like to think of God as a scientist himself- he set up this little experiment called Earth, created variables that could adapt and change, and then let them go to see what would happen. Somedays I don't wonder though if He's thinking, Oh, crap, that went awry...

mistywhite400 · April 2010

Tonya_G:
I fully believe in evolution and other scientific theory about how our world/universe began... but the question that science still cannot answer for me is, where did that Big Bang come from? I like to think of God as a scientist himself- he set up this little experiment called Earth, created variables that could adapt and change, and then let them go to see what would happen. Somedays I don't wonder though if He's thinking, Oh, crap, that went awry...

Yeah I tend to lean towards the big bang theory, but I think God put that in motion. Since we all have free will we make our choices and our lives are determined by that and by the choices other people make. Whether they are good or bad. (Just to clarify. I'm not saying if something bad happens you bring it on yourself, sometimes bad things happen and I don't know if you'll ever know why, I guess that's where faith comes in. You just have to have faith that the lord will lead you through it and make you stronger) Also I love what PP said about not seeing gods face until she looked into her babys face. So sweet!

dragonsmercy · April 2010

I believe in fate, but I don't believe in God. So even with having a baby, I knew it was meant to be, but it hasn't changed my beliefs in any way. Having said that, though, I'm also very open to religion, and will let my children decide to follow whatever faith calls to them. DH has a bit harder time dealing with that (thanks to his sister, he's not very open to christianity...), but he'll have to deal with it, if that's what they choose to follow.

AngelMell05 · April 2010

I completely agree

I always believed in God.. Through all the ups and downs of my life.. But when Logan was born I was just like.. yup.. you are a gift from God. There is no question in that.

Firemn'sFlame · April 2010

Bad things happen to us because we are imperfect. Adam and Eve sinned and passed imperfection on to us. Romans 5:12. God has promised though that he will fulfill his original promise. Genesis 1:27,28 Isaiah 45:18. All we have to do is excercise faith in him and we won't be destroyed at armageddon. Matthew 24:14. God commanded us also to do his will found at Matthew 28:19,20. If we do so we can live forever on a paradise on Earth. Revelation 21:1-5. None of these are my own words. That is why I referred to the scriptures.

skinnursemandee · April 2010

When I look into my daughters face I do not see god, I see my daughter. A little child that my husband and I created through our dna. God did not come into my room and hit me from the backside in order to get me pregnant. As previous poster said, biology did that. The sperm met the egg. I go to church, I believe in god. However, if childbearing is about god then why did my son die? Why did god make me suffer for 8 years before giving me another child? See, its biology. Also, I do think religion is a subject best served cold and not on a hot board like this one.

anhella · April 2010

If everything complex and beautiful has to have a maker, then who "made" God?

mistywhite400 · April 2010

In all fairness I posted in the subject line it was RE religion. I can't even fathom the hurt of losing a child. I fully agree its biology, but I also believe that it is guided by gods hand and there is a reason for everything! Not that I would/could ever understand losing a child, but if I couldn't have faith in Gods plan for me then I would be lost. Anyway: enough debating for me, like I said above JMO and I'm sure not trying to convert anyone! Good night everyone. Gotta sleep before miss emmie wakes up! Lol!

finally2006 · April 2010

I look into DD face and I see little bits of me and little bits of DH. Together we created this perfect thing- not god. I am happy that a part of me will live on in her and her children. That is heaven enough for me.

denahamilton@cox.net · April 2010

ToledoDeux:
It's biology.

EXACTLY what I was thinking.

tashacu02 · April 2010

kimberlyk921:
i completely agree, i was raised in church all my life, but never saw God's face until i looked at my newborn baby.

I couldn't have said this any better!

Aliliv · April 2010

I believe in God (in whatever form/name that comes in - ie. higher power). I believe in evolution. I don't believe that God has a hand in our individual daily troubles/hurts/pains, etc. I don't believe that God decides to get us pregnant. I strongly believe in free will and the biology/physiology of our bodies/environment. I just have to believe that there is something else after this world, because I get too depressed thinking that this is it and that when I die (or my husband, my daughters, my son, etc.) we just go in the ground and disappear. I also believe in miracles:)

Sometimes I believe in Vampires - I can thank Vampire Diaries for that, though......yummy.

sioraigra · April 2010

finally2006:
I look into DD face and I see little bits of me and little bits of DH. Together we created this perfect thing- not god. I am happy that a part of me will live on in her and her children. That is heaven enough for me.

I agree!

@ the OP: As much of a miracle as I think my daughter is, I have to think of a friend of mine who gave birth 2 days before me. Everything was said to be healthy through her pregnancy. Everything with the birth seemed to go well. Then after an hour or so she took a turn for the worse and ended up passing away. She only lived 3 hours. I don't feel that there is any reason any god would have to do that. She will feel that terrible pain of losing her child the rest of her life. Saying there is a reason for everything is just a way to make people feel better when terrible things happen. But really, terrible things just happen. But wonderful things happen too. That is what makes life worth living. You feel your child is a reason to believe in God. I feel someone's child being taken away after only taking a few breaths is a reason not to believe in God. That is just how I feel.

SeaStar430 · April 2010

I am technically Catholic and go to church every weekend and will bring my child up Catholic. My husband's name is Mark Matthew. But I'm really secretly atheist. Because it all seems like malarky to me, I've read the bible...it's some made up story that makes people feel better about their loved ones (and themselves) dying. Thousands of years ago people believed in several Gods...they sacrificed their lives for those beliefs. And now we laugh them off as a joke...there's no difference.

I believe that there is some sort of higher power, but organized religion and the bible...just make people feel better. And I'm ok with that, I think religion is a great thing.

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