I'm curious to hear, too! My nurse practioner recently told me that her moms often say the recovery with the 2nd is easier. Not sure why - I would imagine it's much harder now that you have 2 on your hands!
i am scared because i have to have a 2nd c-section too, i have heard mixed emtions on both, harder, easier. I also think it depends on how you handeled your first one.
With my first daughter, I labored for 13 hours, and then had a c-section, so I was more tired and out of it the day after. The second c-section itself was easier, and less tiring. Recovery itself was easier the second time, but I needed more help after the second, because I couldn't just rest when the baby rested with a toddler running around. Definitely get more help the second time, it's a necessity!
My 2nd c-section was way easier than the first. Less painful and healed quicker - I think due to getting up and moving around sooner/more. I was so scared to with the first one - the second time I new there wasn't much to be afraid of. Just take your pain meds when you need them.
To pp - I think most people know they don't have to have a 2nd c-section - some people don't want to risk a vbac though. It's a very personal decision - although abdominal surgery carries it's own set of risks - uterine rupture is much more dangerous.
Also, not everyone can have a vbac - it depends on many factors.
I don't mean to be snarky but this was a post about c-sections - it just seems a little odd to jump in and start talking about something completely different.
there is a HUGE crisis right now in the country re: c-sections. 1 in 5 babies are born this way, most uneccesarily. the rate is MUCH higher than the World Health Org. even suggests. it is like 35% nationwide!
much of it based on misinformation. uterine rupture is MUCH less likely w/ a VBAC. the rate dramatically increases w/ induction. this is where hosp. liability comes into play...
Again - she didn't ask for v-bac info. She asked a question about pain with 2nd sections - can she not just get some freakin' support and real answers to her questions instead of you trying to push your v-bac info on her?
You have no idea whether this person better off with a vbac or not - in some cases it is NOT an option - due to the mothers health, the health of the baby, what happened with the mother's previous c-section - her type of incision, etc. There are lots of reasons why someone might truly need a second section. She might be one of those women who has a real reason for a second c-section and she just has a question about pain.
While I appreciate that you are trying to raise awareness about unnecessary c-sections VBACS ARE NOT ALWAYS THE BEST OPTION! Sometimes they are - and sometimes they are not.
Seriously - your comment that it is ALWAYS safer/better is asinine - really. Are you a doctor? More specifically are you her doctor? Because unless you are you should probably stfu about what she can/should do.
You posts come across as pushy and quite frankly hurtful. I take this quite personally given that I've had 2 sections myself - I'm well aware of v-bac's - I would have loved to have had one. However the health of my son made that impossible. You making it sound like every woman who has ever had a second c-section didn't really need one is really annoying.
Again - I'm glad you're out raising awareness - but is it really necessary to hijack unrelated posts to push your views? Save it for posts with v-bac in the title.
My son's 15 3/4 inch head would not fit through no matter how bad I wanted a VBAC! It is NOT always possible and you should back off and be a little more respectful of that.
My second C-section did not granulate. My stitch "popped" open and bled while I was in the hospital. They could not stitch up the inch hole and I went home with it open.
It was awful. I thought it would never close. I went to the doctor's office and they put silver nitrate in in to burn the nerves for the bleeding. My DH had to always clean it with hydrogen peroxide. Dealing with a newborn and still recovering from an open suture was the worse. Plus I was depressed.
After about 3 weeks it started to close. The hole was getting smaller and smaller. My DH was pissed and my OB whom I love said that sometimes from the previous section the skin doesn't bond.
my calculations were wrong - you are correct - bottom line is my son was BIG. let me tell you.... he was 9 lbs and 21 1/2 in long and i pushed him out cause i was able to move about... he and i worked together. i am sorry you have been robbed of this exp. because your dr. convinced you that your body cannot birth. not surprised they used the 'big baby' card - happens all the time. this is very sad. your pelvis stretches and the baby's head becomes smaller in birth - hence the soft spot on their heads... it is FOR birth. my question is how have so many women for so many yrs. given birth? in 1900 more than 90% of birth were at home w/ midwives. how have we come so far? so sad.... i'll keep you in my thoughts - i think you are very lost and i am sorry you cannot trust the process of birth. perhaps you will consider a VBA2C....
My 1st child was born vaginally. She was normal size, with a normal size head. She barely came out on her own and I was able to move around and get into different positions. so when my son had a gigantic head it was no surprise that he would not fit.
To answer your question about what women did years ago... they freaking died in childbirth! For God's sake get off your home birth high horse and realize that it is not for everyone.
I happen to be an educated medical professional for crying out loud. I do not need some hippy dippy trippy home birth freak to "educate me". The End.
i am not on a 'home birth high horse' - i am just asking you to please educate yourself on home birth before making judgements. will you please watch 'the business of being born'? it will open your eyes - i promose you... it is NOT propaganda as you like to call it - it is the truth - the facts. PLEASE watch it... if not, read - why think you have all the answers?
what is happening in this country re: birth is uphauling - we as women should be educating ourselves on ALL our birth options... ones that are gentle, normal and natural...
ms. medical professional - do you know these rates?
Current Cesarean Rate: 29% - One in four births is a cesarean, with some hospitals reporting as high as one in two. This represents a 400% increase in less than 15 years.
Labor Induction Rate: According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the rate of inductions was 9.5% in 1990. In 2003 the rate reached 20.6%. The labor induction rate has more than doubled in the last 15 years. As of 2001, one in five women were induced.
Maternal Mortality Rate: According to a report released by the World Health Organization (W.H.O.) in 2000, the US ranks 30th in the world in maternal deaths. That means that 29 other countries in the world have FEWER women dying in childbirth and from pregnancy related issues than the United States. As of 2004, 13 out of 100,000 women died in childbirth (near third world levels).
Infant Mortality Rate: An estimated 2 million babies die within their first 24 hours each year worldwide and the United States has the second worst newborn mortality rate in the developed world. American babies are three times more likely to die in their first month as children born in Japan, and newborn mortality is 2.5 times higher in the United States than in Finland, Iceland or Norway,
Oh momofivan, shut up. I am all for natural births- I went through labour and three hours of pushing drug free and ended up having an emergency c-section. Sometimes c-sections are necessary. Of course they're not necessary every single time one is performed, but you have no idea why benjen is getting one so don't judge. Even if hers isn't medically necessary, it is her birth, her body, and her choice. Stay out of it.
Re: 2nd C Section Moms
https://www.ican-online.org/
To pp - I think most people know they don't have to have a 2nd c-section - some people don't want to risk a vbac though. It's a very personal decision - although abdominal surgery carries it's own set of risks - uterine rupture is much more dangerous.
Also, not everyone can have a vbac - it depends on many factors.
I don't mean to be snarky but this was a post about c-sections - it just seems a little odd to jump in and start talking about something completely different.
Hannah
much of it based on misinformation. uterine rupture is MUCH less likely w/ a VBAC. the rate dramatically increases w/ induction. this is where hosp. liability comes into play...
you are much better off (proven) to VBAC. period.
again, visit here more 'truth':
https://www.ican-online.org/
You have no idea whether this person better off with a vbac or not - in some cases it is NOT an option - due to the mothers health, the health of the baby, what happened with the mother's previous c-section - her type of incision, etc. There are lots of reasons why someone might truly need a second section. She might be one of those women who has a real reason for a second c-section and she just has a question about pain.
While I appreciate that you are trying to raise awareness about unnecessary c-sections VBACS ARE NOT ALWAYS THE BEST OPTION! Sometimes they are - and sometimes they are not.
Seriously - your comment that it is ALWAYS safer/better is asinine - really. Are you a doctor? More specifically are you her doctor? Because unless you are you should probably stfu about what she can/should do.
You posts come across as pushy and quite frankly hurtful. I take this quite personally given that I've had 2 sections myself - I'm well aware of v-bac's - I would have loved to have had one. However the health of my son made that impossible. You making it sound like every woman who has ever had a second c-section didn't really need one is really annoying.
Again - I'm glad you're out raising awareness - but is it really necessary to hijack unrelated posts to push your views? Save it for posts with v-bac in the title.
Have a great freakin day -
Hannah
To the VBAC queen:
My son's 15 3/4 inch head would not fit through no matter how bad I wanted a VBAC! It is NOT always possible and you should back off and be a little more respectful of that.
My second C-section did not granulate. My stitch "popped" open and bled while I was in the hospital. They could not stitch up the inch hole and I went home with it open.
It was awful. I thought it would never close. I went to the doctor's office and they put silver nitrate in in to burn the nerves for the bleeding. My DH had to always clean it with hydrogen peroxide. Dealing with a newborn and still recovering from an open suture was the worse. Plus I was depressed.
After about 3 weeks it started to close. The hole was getting smaller and smaller. My DH was pissed and my OB whom I love said that sometimes from the previous section the skin doesn't bond.
I am nervous about this one now.
My son's head measurment in cm just to help you out was 40 cm
Nice try though!
To answer your question about what women did years ago... they freaking died in childbirth! For God's sake get off your home birth high horse and realize that it is not for everyone.
I happen to be an educated medical professional for crying out loud. I do not need some hippy dippy trippy home birth freak to "educate me". The End.
what is happening in this country re: birth is uphauling - we as women should be educating ourselves on ALL our birth options... ones that are gentle, normal and natural...
ms. medical professional - do you know these rates?
Current Cesarean Rate: 29% - One in four births is a cesarean, with some hospitals reporting as high as one in two. This represents a 400% increase in less than 15 years.
Labor Induction Rate: According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the rate of inductions was 9.5% in 1990. In 2003 the rate reached 20.6%. The labor induction rate has more than doubled in the last 15 years. As of 2001, one in five women were induced.
Maternal Mortality Rate: According to a report released by the World Health Organization (W.H.O.) in 2000, the US ranks 30th in the world in maternal deaths. That means that 29 other countries in the world have FEWER women dying in childbirth and from pregnancy related issues than the United States. As of 2004, 13 out of 100,000 women died in childbirth (near third world levels).
Infant Mortality Rate: An estimated 2 million babies die within their first 24 hours each year worldwide and the United States has the second worst newborn mortality rate in the developed world. American babies are three times more likely to die in their first month as children born in Japan, and newborn mortality is 2.5 times higher in the United States than in Finland, Iceland or Norway,