PSA: 0-3 Cut it out with the CIO posts!!

MegDC · April 2010

ALL of your babies are too young for any kind of CIO. Having a difficult newborn who is up at all hours of the night can seem impossible--at best it is really really hard. It might seem like a baby sleeping only on you or only while nursing or not at all is "creating bad habits", but right now your job is to deal with it.

Its not an "opinion" that CIO is not appropriate before 4 months-- the AAP says that its not ok as do most credible pediatric experts. So, complain, cry, come here and look for support but for the love of goldfish PICK UP YOUR BABY.

::steps off soapbox and returns to 6-12::

1momma · April 2010

Maybe you should read that post again, then single out the idiots that are saying its ok. Because most of the board told her its not ok in the least.

denahamilton@cox.net · April 2010

She is absolutely right. HOWEVER, FIO for up to 15 minutes is A-OK in my book. But at this point, I think everyone is sick of hearing the contents of "my book" LOL

sleepingbeauty825 · April 2010

Yeah, but what if our mom or grandma suggests it?!

anabell0920 · April 2010

denahamilton@cox.net:
She is absolutely right. HOWEVER, FIO for up to 15 minutes is A-OK in my book. But at this point, I think everyone is sick of hearing the contents of "my book" LOL

Yah to bad the op clearly stated CRYING.

Ditto to 1momma

mrsfox1369 · April 2010

I don't let LO cry it out... maybe because it's not right or maybe because I just don't have the heart to hear her crying like that but either way I could never do it intentionally. As for holding LO while she falls asleep I'm fine with it if she's in her fussy I need comfort mood but I put her down right away when she's fallen asleep. When other people hold her and she just zoinks out then I make her be put down.. no reason to hold a passed baby.

MegDC · April 2010

1momma:
Maybe you should read that post again, then single out the idiots that are saying its ok. Because most of the board told her its not ok in the least.

I get that. But I see it over here ALL the time. If you are not crazy, this clearly doesn't apply to you as you are not in need of a PSA. But the poster today was by far not the first in recent weeks on this board to venture into the land of CIO.

denahamilton@cox.net · April 2010

anabell0920:

denahamilton@cox.net:
She is absolutely right. HOWEVER, FIO for up to 15 minutes is A-OK in my book. But at this point, I think everyone is sick of hearing the contents of "my book" LOL

Yah to bad the op clearly stated CRYING.

Ditto to 1momma

I understand that she said "screaming". I was simply adding my 2cents in regards to "fussing". Is that okay?

smittysoup · April 2010

I don't see how people can even concieve of CIO at this age. I feel bad enough when LO fusses for just a few minutes! As soon as anything even remotely sounding like a cry is coming out of his mouth, I'm over there trying to figure out what is wrong.

The only time I've let LO cry is when I'm frantically trying to get his bottle ready at 3am.

grapeape73 · April 2010

It is to the point that I can't even open the posts about CIO/SIO anymore. It makes my stomach hurt to read about moms who think it is OK to let a newborn/infant cry for any length of time.

But maybe I'm crazy, but I will pull over and stop the car when LO is crying because I do believe it is my job as a mother to make her happy.

bakershaker · April 2010

Has anyone read the Baby Whisperer book? She says controlled crying is fine~ I did it with my DS..he is amazing at sleep and has never not once needed us or a prop to get him to sleep because we taught him at a early age to sleep. Baby Whisperer says to let them cry...but you stay in the room and pat their backs and "shh" them.

I have many friends who never taught their children how to fall asleep on their own..and at age 2...they still don't STTN, they still co sleep or they are up at the crack of dawn. I think sleep is something you need to teach your children...not screaming their little lungs out...but letting them fuss a bit and then soothing them....but that's just my experience and my opinion:)

ivys2cute · April 2010

grapeape73:

It is to the point that I can't even open the posts about CIO/SIO anymore. It makes my stomach hurt to read about moms who think it is OK to let a newborn/infant cry for any length of time.

But maybe I'm crazy, but I will pull over and stop the car when LO is crying because I do believe it is my job as a mother to make her happy.

I'm with you sister!!!!

ScissorTailedFlycatcher · April 2010

bakershaker:
Has anyone read the Baby Whisperer book? She says controlled crying is?fine~ I did it with my DS..he is amazing at sleep and has never not once needed us or a prop?to get him to sleep because we taught him at a early age to sleep. Baby Whisperer says to let them cry...but you stay in the room and pat their backs and "shh" them.
I have many friends who never taught their children how to fall asleep on their own..and at age 2...they still don't STTN, they still co sleep or they are up at the crack of dawn. I think sleep is something you need to teach your children...not screaming their little lungs out...but letting them fuss a bit and then soothing? them....but that's just my experience and my opinion:)

What you are describing is not CIO. If you are still trying to soothe them, it is not CIO. ?

bakershaker · April 2010

I know..I don't believe in CIO..but I do believe in self soothing:)

ScissorTailedFlycatcher · April 2010

bakershaker:
I know..I don't believe in CIO..but I do believe in self soothing:)

They still aren't learning to soothe themselves at that age either. If you soothe them, that isn't self-soothing. I don't disagree with your actions, but you don't seem to have your terminology correct.?

NastyAnnie · April 2010

Awww, OP, you're ruining all our fun.

Without CIO posts we have very little to flame around this board.

Won't you let us have our kicks? After all, babies are boring.

...Unless of course they are screaming, and have been for long enough to bump about it.

IrishBrideND · April 2010

shortyred919:
bakershaker:
I know..I don't believe in CIO..but I do believe in self soothing:)
They still aren't learning to soothe themselves at that age either. If you soothe them, that isn't self-soothing. I don't disagree with your actions, but you don't seem to have your terminology correct.

This. "letting them fuss a bit then soothing them" =/= self soothing.

bakershaker · April 2010

shortyred919:
bakershaker:
I know..I don't believe in CIO..but I do believe in self soothing:)
They still aren't learning to soothe themselves at that age either. If you soothe them, that isn't self-soothing. I don't disagree with your actions, but you don't seem to have your terminology correct.

Sorry, what I meant to say is...we put DD to bed wide awake..and if she fusses we leave her in there for a few mins to try to soothe herself. If within 5 mins she is fussing or all out crying...then we go in and do the "shh/pat" move from Baby Whisperer to get her to calm again and we leave...and repeat as many times as needed. So far shes usually asleep after the first 5 min fuss.. I don't pick her up or anything...just rub her back and comfort her so she knows I'm there for her...but teaching her to fall asleep in her own bed. It worked wonders for my son..it took less then a week and he was putting himself to sleep every nap and STTN in no time:)

deniseb617 · April 2010

Wow!!! I really did not mean for my previous post to start such a fight!!

denahamilton@cox.net · April 2010

bakershaker:

shortyred919:
bakershaker:
I know..I don't believe in CIO..but I do believe in self soothing:)
They still aren't learning to soothe themselves at that age either. If you soothe them, that isn't self-soothing. I don't disagree with your actions, but you don't seem to have your terminology correct.

Sorry, what I meant to say is...we put DD to bed wide awake..and if she fusses we leave her in there for a few mins to try to soothe herself. If within 5 mins she is fussing or all out crying...then we go in and do the "shh/pat" move from Baby Whisperer to get her to calm again and we leave...and repeat as many times as needed. So far shes usually asleep after the first 5 min fuss.. I don't pick her up or anything...just rub her back and comfort her so she knows I'm there for her...but teaching her to fall asleep in her own bed. It worked wonders for my son..it took less then a week and he was putting himself to sleep every nap and STTN in no time:)

No need to apologize here sista! I speak your language and know exactly what you are talking about!!

rodgersonmumma · April 2010

bakershaker:

shortyred919:
bakershaker:
I know..I don't believe in CIO..but I do believe in self soothing:)
They still aren't learning to soothe themselves at that age either. If you soothe them, that isn't self-soothing. I don't disagree with your actions, but you don't seem to have your terminology correct.

Sorry, what I meant to say is...we put DD to bed wide awake..and if she fusses we leave her in there for a few mins to try to soothe herself. If within 5 mins she is fussing or all out crying...then we go in and do the "shh/pat" move from Baby Whisperer to get her to calm again and we leave...and repeat as many times as needed. So far shes usually asleep after the first 5 min fuss.. I don't pick her up or anything...just rub her back and comfort her so she knows I'm there for her...but teaching her to fall asleep in her own bed. It worked wonders for my son..it took less then a week and he was putting himself to sleep every nap and STTN in no time:)

We started this with DS at about 3 months. He is an awesome sleeper. He has always gone to sleep on his own since he was that age and still does. Im really glad I did it, as I have plenty of friends who's 3 year olds still co-sleep or get up in the middle of the night or need their parents to lay with them until they fall asleep. It makes life easier for all of us if we can just put him to bed and kiss him goodnight and not have to worry about it being a big production. He does have a lovey though, and he needs that to sleep.

I dont think there is anything wrong with controled crying where you go in every few minutes and make sure LO knows you are there for them. Just letting your baby scream in a room all alone for a long time is a whole different can of worms.

bakershaker · April 2010

rodgersonmumma:
bakershaker:

shortyred919:
bakershaker:
I know..I don't believe in CIO..but I do believe in self soothing:)
They still aren't learning to soothe themselves at that age either. If you soothe them, that isn't self-soothing. I don't disagree with your actions, but you don't seem to have your terminology correct.

Sorry, what I meant to say is...we put DD to bed wide awake..and if she fusses we leave her in there for a few mins to try to soothe herself. If within 5 mins she is fussing or all out crying...then we go in and do the "shh/pat" move from Baby Whisperer to get her to calm again and we leave...and repeat as many times as needed. So far shes usually asleep after the first 5 min fuss.. I don't pick her up or anything...just rub her back and comfort her so she knows I'm there for her...but teaching her to fall asleep in her own bed. It worked wonders for my son..it took less then a week and he was putting himself to sleep every nap and STTN in no time:)

We started this with DS at about 3 months. He is an awesome sleeper. He has always gone to sleep on his own since he was that age and still does. Im really glad I did it, as I have plenty of friends who's 3 year olds still co-sleep or get up in the middle of the night or need their parents to lay with them until they fall asleep. It makes life easier for all of us if we can just put him to bed and kiss him goodnight and not have to worry about it being a big production. He does have a lovey though, and he needs that to sleep.

I dont think there is anything wrong with controled crying where you go in every few minutes and make sure LO knows you are there for them. Just letting your baby scream in a room all alone for a long time is a whole different can of worms.

This exactly:)

denahamilton@cox.net · April 2010

bakershaker:
rodgersonmumma:
bakershaker:

shortyred919:
bakershaker:
I know..I don't believe in CIO..but I do believe in self soothing:)
They still aren't learning to soothe themselves at that age either. If you soothe them, that isn't self-soothing. I don't disagree with your actions, but you don't seem to have your terminology correct.

Sorry, what I meant to say is...we put DD to bed wide awake..and if she fusses we leave her in there for a few mins to try to soothe herself. If within 5 mins she is fussing or all out crying...then we go in and do the "shh/pat" move from Baby Whisperer to get her to calm again and we leave...and repeat as many times as needed. So far shes usually asleep after the first 5 min fuss.. I don't pick her up or anything...just rub her back and comfort her so she knows I'm there for her...but teaching her to fall asleep in her own bed. It worked wonders for my son..it took less then a week and he was putting himself to sleep every nap and STTN in no time:)

We started this with DS at about 3 months. He is an awesome sleeper. He has always gone to sleep on his own since he was that age and still does. Im really glad I did it, as I have plenty of friends who's 3 year olds still co-sleep or get up in the middle of the night or need their parents to lay with them until they fall asleep. It makes life easier for all of us if we can just put him to bed and kiss him goodnight and not have to worry about it being a big production. He does have a lovey though, and he needs that to sleep.

I dont think there is anything wrong with controled crying where you go in every few minutes and make sure LO knows you are there for them. Just letting your baby scream in a room all alone for a long time is a whole different can of worms.

This exactly:)

THIS EXACTLY!

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