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i'm in a really ugly place and need some help

we are dog lovers.  always have been.  until lula showed up.  i used to be so judgey of people who had a baby and started neglecting their dog.  until i became one.

a little background:  we've had our pom for 8 years.  she was my DH's dog before i came into the picture.  in fact - when we first moved in together she used to bite my ankles and run when i hugged or kissed him.  haha.  but over the years we've learned to "love" each other since neither of us is going anywhere.

in the last couple months her health has started to fail.  she has a severely collapsed trachea and reverse sneezes and coughs all the time.  sometimes she coughs so hard she throws up a little.  it's awful.  she's had 3 bouts of major diarrhea and has pooped on the floor several times.  (some i believe to be intentional and some not).   i took her to the groomer yesterday and before i put her in the car for the less than 10 minute car ride home i walked her along the grass to potty (in the snow) she did - and then peed in the car on the way home. 

i just don't know what to do.  each time i take her to the vet they act like it's no big deal.  she's getting older and this stuff happens.  well maybe it does - but i can't have dog secretions all over the floor that my 10 month old baby is all over the place on.  they give me some $40-$80 medicine and sent me on my way.  ouch.  we can't afford to keep getting the meds at that price.

my DH has completely shut down telling me, "well - you just do what you think you need to do."  great - so it's all on me.  don't get me wrong - i love katie - i do.  and when it really boils down to it - i don't want to get rid of her.  and i don't want to put her down.  it honestly breaks my heart.  but i can't wake up every morning and clean up dog poop/pee/throw up.  ugh.  its really starting to affect our marriage - in a bad way.  i feel so distant over this.

what do you think?  help... please. my heart is just broken over this...

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  • Why is your DH not helping with the dog?  She was his before he met you so he should also be responsible.  Not to mention, it is your (both of you) daughter crawling around ont he floor.
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    Why is your DH not helping with the dog?  She was his before he met you so he should also be responsible.  Not to mention, it is your (both of you) daughter crawling around ont he floor.

    he is super sensitive about her.  she's like his second baby.  he just doesn't know what to do about it.  he gets really defensive everytime i bring it up.  he says, "well - i'll clean it up."  and he does - when he's home.  but that doesn't change the fact that it's there to begin with.

    i just wish there was a magic fix.

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  • Can you confine her to one area of the house so that she is still with you (in a play pen type thing) but not making a mess all over the house where you are with DD? 

    Poor thing, I feel bad for the dog being sick.  And you for dealing with it!  It would be a very tough position to be in.

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  • Of all of your options, I would NOT take her to a no kill shelter.  She's pretty much unadoptable in her current state and it would break any dog's heart to be taken out of the only home that she has known and be placed in a cage.   She's old and sick and nothing about this is her fault.    

    If her quality of life has deteriorated to the point where you are really thinking of putting her down, have the decency to be with her to the very end.

    Personally, I'd work around all of this.  Put a plastic sheet under her in the car.  Clean up right after her or keep her confined to certain rooms of the house.  See another vet for a second opinion. 

  • Ask your DH to do at least half the cleaning up.  But otherwise, keep her, and fence off your LO's main play area.
  • I know how you feel. Our doxies are (were) our babies. It's hard to have little dogs with a baby. One is fine with Lila and othe other, not so much. The one who isn't is only 6 but has a terminal illness that requires us to have to take her every three weeks for shots. She's perfectly normal and happy on the treatments, so as much as I'd like to, i can't justify not doing them at $60 a pop. The treatments make her slightly more agressive with food and she has to go to the bathroom a lot more often (has accidents too).

    I'm just sharing our experience, because believe me, a part of me would REALLY like to be done with this. But I made a choice to take care of her and love her, from the very beginning. The baby was the second choice I made, and I knew from the beginning I'd have to deal with them together. So we have chosen to keep her on the treatments until they fail and we are forced to put her down. Like I said...it's just my experience. I know where you're coming from though. It's really tough.

  • keep her in one area of the house, that way you don't have to clean the whole house?  Its a tough one- I'm sorry.  Does the vet say things will get better, or is this the way she will be forever?  If that is the case, how long can you go on like this? 8 is fairly old for a Pom, no?
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    Can you confine her to one area of the house so that she is still with you (in a play pen type thing) but not making a mess all over the house where you are with DD? 

    Poor thing, I feel bad for the dog being sick.  And you for dealing with it!  It would be a very tough position to be in.

    This is what I was thinking. 

    Our old dog started losing control of everything, but you just have to deal with it. 

  • Don't give her up-- she will have a hard time getting adopted b/c of her age.  Can you find a place in your house she can have as her own, that is easy to clean up?  (i.e. laundry room with hard floors).  Restricting the areas in the house she can go in might give her better discipline and make for easier clean ups.
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  • I'm really sorry you're dealing with this... We actually just put my cat to sleep yesterday. He was with me way before DH was around and it was the hardest thing. It was a touchy subject with me too, I put it off for a few months. Eventually it got to the point that it was just not healthy to have him and DD in any of the same areas at all (and we have very little room) so he got banned from certain rooms which really just made me sad--DD was usually with us, so that meant he was just left alone in those places. He seemed really lonely. Finally, when it was obvious that no matter how much money and effort we put into his care (he was on daily shots, going to the vet relatively often) that he wasn't going to get any better and was just plain miserable, I told DH we could let him go. It is not an easy decision. My heart's with you guys.
  • When our dog got older we reverted to crate like training, the dog was only allowed in the kitchen unless chaperoned.  At least then the mess is easier to clean and you can keep your LO mostly out of the kitchen unless it is clean. 

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  • Do you have a close friend or family member that would agree to taking her in?  That way, you know she's getting good care, but have a way that you can all be happy (as you can be, given the situation).
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  • It's hard to say what I'd do since I'm not in your shoes, but I think you should either keep her (I like the playpen idea with a plastic sheet) or have her put down.  Please don't take her to a shelter - I think her heart would break.  I'm so sorry you're dealing with this.
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  • Maybe somebody else in your family could take her, until she goes?  You could offer to keep paying for her meds/vet bills, but at least you wont have the everyday trouble.  And your DD could visit her. 

    This happened to my friend, who had twins.  So, she really just couldn't keep them both out of the puke/poop the dog did.  Her in-laws took the dog, and she takes the girls over to visit alot.

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  • Don't they make doggie diapers? Is that an option?
  • imagemadameladauphine:

    Can you confine her to one area of the house so that she is still with you (in a play pen type thing) but not making a mess all over the house where you are with DD? 

    I was going to suggest the same thing. 

    The mess would really start to take a toll on me as well and you're in a tough spot but unless the dog is in pain I don't think I could put it down.

    Good Luck!

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  • I'm sorry you're going through this.  If the vets haven't talked to you about putting the dog down then she is probably not that bad.  I know it's hard to hear, but I really think you need to suck it up & do the right thing by honoring your commitment to this dog.  My pets are perfectly healthy & still have accidents or get sick.  It's not always convenient with a crawling DD all over the floor.  I suck it up, clean it up & love my pets.  I had a cat who lived to be 20 years old.  I gave her medicine & cleaned up her accidents.  It was hard - but I adored her.  When it got to the point where she was not enjoying life I knew it was time to put her down.  I talked to family & the vet and the decision still wasn't easy & at times I still wonder if it was the right thing. 

    I'm sorry.  I hope you find peace in whatever you decide.

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  • I like the idea of keeping her only in one or two rooms unless chaperoned...and I also think you should get  a second opinion...pooping all over is not "just part of getting old"....there is something else going on...and if your current vet isn't going to look into it, I would take her to see someone else for sure...it could just be a matter of getting her the right meds...but don't put her in a shelter...her little doggy heart would break...
  • I didn't read through all of the responses- so sorry if this has been suggested already.

    Have you tried calling a regular people pharmacy and asking if they carry what your vet is selling you?  Our lab had bronchitis.  We got a $30 Rx from the vet.  Turns out dogs and people get the same meds for bronchitis and it's a $4 generic at the pharmacy.  The vet should be able to call it in or give you a written Rx to get filled.  Also- have you tried any homeopathic remedies?  The vet gives us Rx ear stuff for to clean his ears but it turns out that apple cider vinegar does the same thing and costs far less.  I'm not sure what would help your sick puppy but there must be something out there...

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    Don't they make doggie diapers? Is that an option?

    that's what i was thinking. they make them for when dogs are in heat... give it a shot!

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  • Confine her to one area of the house where your baby will never be, until she really is too sick to be comfortable and needs to be put down.  I agree, dog secretions on the floor are NOT ok when you have a baby on the floor crawling and then putting hands in her mouth!  So keep her away from where your baby will be.
  • imagelivinreality:

    When our dog got older we reverted to crate like training, the dog was only allowed in the kitchen unless chaperoned.  At least then the mess is easier to clean and you can keep your LO mostly out of the kitchen unless it is clean. 

    We do this with our old dog.  Ive always said that once a dog lost control of her bowels, we would euthanize, as I believe that at that point the quality of life goes down.  BUT the crate training is working very well, so I clean up whatever mess she makes if any and we are taking it day by day.

    (This is my husband's dog too from before we got married, and I would come home to urine all over the couch...uugh... but its gotten so much better crating her when we arnt home/asleep.)

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