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Who else loves Obama's new Health Care plan?
There are lots of Pros to this reform. I would also suggest that if you don't like it, you better learn to like it.
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Re: Who else loves Obama's new Health Care plan?
I like it for what it means regarding the 2010 election cycle.
Do I love that my premiums will now go up for being healthy, and be higher than for those who don't take care of themselves and use more resources? No.
Do I love that my tax rate will go up to cover subsidies for those who may not even want/need insurance? No.
Do I love that healthcare costs will now go up and R&D will go down because all medical suppliers will be forced to pay higher taxes on what they bring to market? No.
Do I love that my husband's company is now planning layoffs because they won't be able to afford the new healthcare costs and taxes? No.
I could go on.
I'm happy with some of the regulations it sets in place...specifically regarding pre-existing conditions. My DS1 was born with a cong. heart defect and from 12 hrs into his life, he has had that label of 'pre-existing condition' Up til now, we've not had any issus, as we've had non-stop coverage. But that may not be true forever. He quite possibly will never have any other heart-related issues (other than routine f/u appts), as he had an open repair, but there's a chance, and I don't wish medical bankruptcy on anyone, ever, especially myself/my son. I also like that small business owners can go in as groups with other small companies for better rates/plans.
What bothers me is that some people's plans that are fantastic, may become average.....some ppl (incl. my self) are quite spoiled by their coverage, and I think we can afford to even things out a bit. And I'm not sure I'm on board with fees for those that choose to deny coverage.....I think if you don't want it, no biggie, but anyone who wants some sort of coverage should be able to pay to get something. BUT, if you deny coverage, I don't think there should be gov't or other non-profit assistance available to you when things take a crap.
And there needs to be some medical tort reform and laws against insanely high medical lawsuits.
Final thought, and this may be my unpopular opinion of the year, but I think this has become way to political/racist/prejudiced. I think you really need to have knowledge on the topic before spewing on and on about the mess it is (and by "you" I'm referring to the general US population...not anyone here....and I just got online, so I have non clue what preceded this post). I've seen many FB relationships take a virtual sh!t this past week because no one really knows what they are talking about.
Do I love that my premiums will now go up for being healthy, and be higher than for those who don't take care of themselves and use more resources? No.
Do I love that my tax rate will go up to cover subsidies for those who may not even want/need insurance? No.
Do I love that healthcare costs will now go up and R&D will go down because all medical suppliers will be forced to pay higher taxes on what they bring to market? No.
Do I love that my husband's company is now planning layoffs because they won't be able to afford the new healthcare costs and taxes? No.
I could go on.
Sorry, but you are either making these claims for shock value (to prove your point) or you just don't really understand what this bill means. I don't know your household income or your current healthcare situation, but I can say that I'm pretty sure your costs will not rise significantly.
Now, do you REALLY think that this bill is out to bankrupt your family? If so, then I think you should educate yourself a little better to gain understanding. You'll feel much better once you know what you're dealing with.
The way I wrote it was partially for "shock value", you're right, but I've read enough about this bill to not be making things up. I know it won't bankrupt my family, and I didn't say that it would, though I do know that our costs will rise. I do think it will mess with peoples' incentives and only make health care more expensive for the majority of people in the long run.
For example, the bill does not allow insurance companies to raise premiums beyond a certain point for those that are sick. Which is great. BUT, it has no such limit for those that are healthy, making it very possible for premiums on healthy people to skyrocket. Or it just creates an incentive for more people to be "sick", thus keeping their premiums low but forcing up medical costs as a whole.
There are new taxes in there for everyone to pay for the cost of the bill, from medical device manufacturers to pharmaceutical companies, to individuals. Higher taxes on pharma companies will make them less likely to do R&D, which means fewer advances in technology, which is bad for everyone. And while I don't mind paying a little more for coverage that I need for my family (within reason of course), I do mind paying for others when this increases their incentive to rely on government aid rather than taking care of themselves.
Unfortunately, the more I learn about this bill and what I am "dealing with", the worse I feel about the whole thing.
I work as a gov't contractor.
Just one example: I've seen, with my own eyes, millions in spending go to grantees who did not deserve it. Even with a structure in place to prevent a grantee from being a lazy slug, the grantee was still a lazy slug and they received funding for incomplete work -- actually, for a few grantees, they never started the programs they were supposed to. Still -- those grantees got the money. Maybe they won't get the money the following year, but they sure got the money the first year. That money essentially came from my pocket.
The program was a 'pet' program...someone powerful in the HHS department who believed and loved this program...it was WELL funded.
The example above is what worries me and there are lots of examples just like this. Another example is Early Head Start, Head Start and the impact of those programs. The statistics on the program's success look pretty (or are made to look pretty) so that powerful people with juicy jobs STAY employed...it becomes less about the true success of a social services program and more about MONEY and status. Maybe it was never about the social service purpose at all...scary thought.
I'm a liberal, but it's too much government for me. Too much gets screwed up. It's too big...
I agree 100%
I agree also.
a health care plan that extends coverage to kids who can not get normally get insurance is great!!! Honestly, that is a GOOD thing.
for me, personally, it affects nothing. I work for a big company and my insurance is not changing.
I think there are good and bad points to it. But I do not believe it is ALL bad like some of you are saying.
This. Also, thanks for the oh so helpful suggestion to learn to like it, but umm, no, I don't think so. I will merely continue to shake my head at this and all of the other wasteful, unsupportable, mismanaged programs instituted by the federal government.
No we don't have to learn to like it. Just wait to November when there will be big change in the government ! You may have gotten what you wanted for this moment, but it will not last. It has been shown many times over that the majority of Americans are opposed to this plan and their voices will be heard come election time.