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Mrs.B2007
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Azoo - I need opinions please
Mrs.B2007
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in Infertility
Hi ladies! DH and I decided not to do the biopsy and go straight to IVF with backup DS. Well the last couple of days we have been thinking maybe it would be best to do MESE/TESE before IVF to see if there is any sperm. If so, then we can freeze them, but if there isn't any sperm then we can go for IUI with DS and not have to do IVF. I was thinking this would be the best thing until I started reading that the chance of sperm surviving the thawing process is very low. I just keep thinking about how we might pay all the money for IVF and DH might not have any sperm and we are going to have to use DS, which we could of saved money with IUI. I hope this makes sense. I have so many thoughts and am not exactly sure how to explain it. We just don't know what to do....do we go straight into IVF with backup DS....or do we do MESE/TESE and freeze what sperm DH has or if DH doesn't have sperm then do IUI with DS. Opinions please...what would you do?
TTC #1 since Dec. 2008
01/10 - DH diagnosed with Azoospermia
05/10 - First Biopsy - producing sperm 
08/11 - Second Biopsy..4 vials frozen
08/12 - First IVF BFN & no more vials 
Don't know our next plan...
08/11 - Second Biopsy..4 vials frozen
08/12 - First IVF BFN & no more vials
Don't know our next plan...This discussion has been closed.
Re: Azoo - I need opinions please
2 years, 2 surgeries, 2 clomid fails, 2 IUIs, 1 loss, IVF #1 - 10/25/10 = BFP!, DS is now 3.5yrs!
TTC #2 - 6/12 surgery #3, FET #1 & 1.2 = BFN, 12/2012 FET #2 = BFP! DD is 1.5 yrs!
Surprise! 12/16/14 BFP, loss #2 12/31/14
I can't wait for the "im getting a divorce" post in 5 years or so because your husbands were fed up with your disgusting chair asses from playing on the knot all day and getting fired 4-5 times for not doing any work. you guys are all winners!! ~ Laur929
I would continue with the original plans an do IVF w/ DS back-up.
Sperm that needs to be retrieved is always better fresh than frozen and won't always make it threw a thaw.
GL cutie
I just wanted to add that I have no IF issues and have done 3 failed D-IUI's and am now doing IVF anyway.
((HUGS))
Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, It empties today of its strength. ~Corrie ten Boom
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says I'll try again tomorrow. ~Mary Anne Radmacher (thank you beadinglady)
It's been a long journey. TTC since 9/06. multiple IUI's and IVF's and 4 m/c's. IVF#3 = BFP, twins, induced at 34w6d due to baby b passing away (no explanation). Delivered on 35w1d, Baby A - baby girl, and Baby B - baby boy, our little angel.
MTHFR A1298C & C677T, Immune Issues and Factor II
mel - i agree with worms 100%
you're gonna get through this sweetie!!
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Hi! We did the TESE a few months before IVF so that we knew if there were sperm in there. We didn't want to go through choosing a donor and paying for DS if there were sperm to be found.
We used the frozen sperm for our first IVF and it was a BFN. Since we knew there were sperm, we did a fresh TESE on the day of my ER for IVF #2. I got a BFP today!
I've heard that fresh sperm really isn't that much better than frozen when it comes down to it. Even though fresh worked for us and frozen didn't, I believe that other factors got us our BFP this cycle.
Good luck to you. Feel free to PM me if you want.
It is very overwhelming and stressful cutie (((HUGS)))
FWIW, our MFI Uro pioneered mTESE and is considered one of the best Uro's in the country and he stressed to us that fresh mTESE sperm is always preferred to frozen.
Choosing DS is also very hard and if you have any questions please feel free to page me.
Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, It empties today of its strength. ~Corrie ten Boom
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says I'll try again tomorrow. ~Mary Anne Radmacher (thank you beadinglady)
It's been a long journey. TTC since 9/06. multiple IUI's and IVF's and 4 m/c's. IVF#3 = BFP, twins, induced at 34w6d due to baby b passing away (no explanation). Delivered on 35w1d, Baby A - baby girl, and Baby B - baby boy, our little angel.
MTHFR A1298C & C677T, Immune Issues and Factor II
You might be a loser (which I don't agree with, btw), but GIRRRL, you can BAKE.
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"If dandelions were hard to grow, they would be most welcome on any lawn."
DH is policing me. He says I can't have ice cream tonight because I had it yesterday... so it's popcorn for me tonight, along with harry potter and the order of the phoenix on ABC family.
(Now who's the loser.
)
"Smudge's Story - How to Grow a Dandelion" will return soon!
The Dandelion Archive
"If dandelions were hard to grow, they would be most welcome on any lawn."
How much is the TESE? Could you do it now and see if you have sperm and then do another if there is so that you have fresh sperm? We never went beyond the biopsy because DH didn't have sperm so the TESE costs are foreign to me.
If it were me I would want to know before doing IVF that there is sperm because it seems like a huge investment to turn around and use DS (if there aren't sperm) without trying D-IUIs first. That's just my opinion. Obviously you need to do what is right for you emotionally and financially.
Good Luck!
Me - DX Hashimoto's Disease, Hypothyroid, Rheumatoid Arthritis
DH - DX Azoospermia - Sertoli Cell Syndrome
DS-IUI #1-4 BFN IVF #1 - BFP! It's a boy!!!
I'd suggest asking both your urologist and RE what their thoughts are. Our urologist wanted to do MESA and TESE and have it frozen. We did have biopsy month before. Our RE said she definately agreed that was best for us and least stressful reguarding having to pick a donor etc. She found that there really weren't difference between fresh or frozen. Hopefully you'll get the same answer from RE and Uro and hopefully it'll make you feel better about deciding what's best for you. Best of luck with whatever you decide.