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NBR: F/U to DEBATE post from earlier...
For those of you who lean on your religion in the matter of the rightness or wrongness of homosexuality or gay marriage, please go to this link, if you missed it earlier, and think about whether or not you REALLY believe everything the bible says, and take it for its word, or if you are just picking and choosing which parts of the bible you are taking at its word.
https://www.magic-city-news.com/Entertainment_8/Debating_Dr_Laura_Schlesinger12743.shtml
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Re: NBR: F/U to DEBATE post from earlier...
That was great. My favorite was:
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath.Exodus 35:2. Clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
I do not consider myself a Christian. But I was at one point in my life, and I'm pretty sure there is a HUGE theological difference between what is contained in the Old and New Testaments.
Frankly, I think this is rather offensive to those who genuinely attempt to adhere to the tenants of their faith. Sorry, but everyone is entitled to their opinion and that's probably why things like this should be kept to their respective boards.
This. I think this post is just as closed minded as some of the people that it might have been aimed at.
Let's be clear. I did not intend to "slander" anyone's christian beliefs. I am a christian, but I get aggrivated when people make the argument that homosexuality is wrong because the Bible says it is. My point is that the Bible says a lot of things. Believe something because you belive it in your soul, not because a book tells you to. The Bible was written by man, not God.
And to those saying that his "has nothing to do with 3rd tri"...there are posts on here all the time that have nothing to do with 3rd tri. There are typically followed with an NBR. So are you going to pick and choose what NBR topics are acceptable for this board?
If you are a Christian, than you should understand what some of us have pointed out about those Old Testament laws being completely irrelevant. If that's the case, than I'm surprised you would have posted this in the first place since you know what a poor argument it is. And as far as not believing what the Bible says....well, that's a whole other conversation if you consider yourself a Christian.
Yes. SOME founders. Not all. Thats my point. Seriously, its a common misconception about American history. As a whole the group were TERRIFIED of two groups taking over: the common man or one religion.
I didn't say that. I was actually most bothered by her posting this link at all when she should know what a bad argument it is.
I think the OP was just pointing out that those who cherry pick the Bible and use the Old Testament to support their disdain for homosexuality are just that "cherry picking." I didn't see that she believes anything from the Old Testament is to be followed today or even believes that the link was a great argument for anyone that knows that the Old and New Testaments have completely different places in Christianity. I assume that she is just referring to those who use the Old Testament as their justification against homosexuality, which in that case means the article on the link is appropriate. To anyone else, no... but to those select people, yes. I have met TONS of people who have used Leviticus to support their views against homosexuality. Those Christians should know better as well and by throwing other Leviticus and Old Testament scriptures that they do not believe or adhere to would be justified. IMO
That's really misleading. There was one particularly prominent athiest, yes. But "tons" is a huge overstatement. The founding fathers largely presumed that religion would be a part of the politics of this country. Practices were tolerated and even encouraged then that would NEVER be allowed now. E.g.: using federal funds to basically attempt to convert the Native Americans. What the founding fathers were so resistant to was the idea of having a national church like the Church of England.
Whoa, there nelly! I don't think this should turn into a debate about whether homosexuality is right or wrong. Nor will I entertain that thought. Again, all I was pointing out was the select people who "cherry pick" from Leviticus without knowing the rest of the Bible cannot be taken seriously. You cannot base your support from a book where you don't follow all of its other codes. That is all I have to say.
Eleanor Noelle - 18/05/12 Claire Elisabeth - 16/-5/10
I couldn't agree more!
Eleanor Noelle - 18/05/12 Claire Elisabeth - 16/-5/10
Thank god our constitution protects people's individual rights and not the beliefs or dominance of any one group or religion.
Outside of that, who cares how you justify your bigotry? You don't have a right to impose your beliefs on others, and that's all that matters to me.
Am I the only one that finds a lot of irony in this post? hahah!
I feel I should interject here and just point out to you that the words "homosexual" and "homosexuality" weren't even introduced until the late 19th century (its first appearance in print was in 1869). Clearly, whatever version of the Bible you're citing has taken it upon itself to project 19th & 20th century ideas/language into "God's" word. Even if you believe God wrote the Bible via man, man certainly has done his fair share of reshaping the words of the Bible in a way that's convenient for their own place in time.