RP from 2nd tri

uagirl · March 2010

I know breastfeeding is always a hot topic, but I don't agree with making someone feel like their choice makes them a bad parent.

https://fiercemamas.blogspot.com/2010/03/let-your-feet-do-shopping.html

mrssamuels2b · March 2010

I try not to get into discussions about BF'ing because I'm torn about it...I'm also a very vocal person and don't want anyone telling me what I should do in either direction.

uagirl · March 2010

mrssamuels2b:
I try not to get into discussions about BF'ing because I'm torn about it...I'm also a very vocal person and don't want anyone telling me what I should do in either direction.

I'm torn about it as well. I would really like to try and BF, but if it doesn't work out and I have to FF, I'm okay with that too. The most important thing for me is a healthy child, and if they aren't able to get that from me, then I'm all for feeding formula.

If someone talked to me like she talked to the store owner, I would have lost it. In my opinion, you never know what someones circumstances are, and it's not my place to judge them for making the best decision for their child.

mrssamuels2b · March 2010

uagirl:

mrssamuels2b:
I try not to get into discussions about BF'ing because I'm torn about it...I'm also a very vocal person and don't want anyone telling me what I should do in either direction.

I'm torn about it as well. I would really like to try and BF, but if it doesn't work out and I have to FF, I'm okay with that too. The most important thing for me is a healthy child, and if they aren't able to get that from me, then I'm all for feeding formula.

If someone talked to me like she talked to the store owner, I would have lost it. In my opinion, you never know what someones circumstances are, and it's not my place to judge them for making the best decision for their child.

Totally agree! They were just samples! She couldn't very well give out samples of BM!

I was reading about a girl on 0-3 who was trying to get her milk to dry up, someone jumped on her about not BF'ing only to find that the girl wasn't able to BF b/c she had GAD and the medication wouldn't allow her to BF...There are so many exceptions to the rule!

Soon2BMrsWiley · March 2010

That pisses me off. I'm typing this as i nurse my son, too. Our situation in feeding him has been agonizing to me. For whatever reason, i havent been able to provide enough milk for him to thrive and gain weight and we've had to supplement. The direction to supplement DID come from both our pedi and lacation consultant. Some people are so self righteous with NO consideration as to why people make the decisions that they have to make.

And where did she get the info that ff babies are 5x more likely to die? Angry

uagirl · March 2010

Soon2BMrsWiley:

That pisses me off. I'm typing this as i nurse my son, too. Our situation in feeding him has been agonizing to me. For whatever reason, i havent been able to provide enough milk for him to thrive and gain weight and we've had to supplement. The direction to supplement DID come from both our pedi and lacation consultant. Some people are so self righteous with NO consideration as to why people make the decisions that they have to make.

And where did she get the info that ff babies are 5x more likely to die?

I'm sorry you've had such a hard time. As agonizing as it is, you are doing what is best to keep your son healthy and thriving, and I know I would make the same decision in a heartbeat.

I wondered about that stat on ff babies. I've never heard that, and I've been doing a lot of reading to try and educate myself the best I can.

kc0721 · March 2010

This pisses me off too. If I want to FF DS then I'm going too and no amount of garbage that people spew to me is going to make me change my mind.

As a business owner, I would've reacted the same way, if not worse than the woman in the store did.

This woman sounds like someone that you can't have a logical discussion with under any circumstances. Any facts you bring to the table about FF is going to be wrong no matter what.

jessloveschase08 · March 2010

The main contributor to how bad my PPD got was the fact that I got so much flack for wanting to stop BFing. I finally quit the day William was 3 months. I said "Enjoy the boobs one last time..." Except he hates BFing and that's partially due to his reflux. He can take in a bottle fast and not feel as much pain (what pedi told me).

I had such a tough time with my supply and with changing my diet for William's reflux that I was angry with my own son. That's why I stopped. I had to comment back. It was mean... but she seems way too self-righteous...

hamillm · March 2010

Soon2BMrsWiley:

That pisses me off. I'm typing this as i nurse my son, too. Our situation in feeding him has been agonizing to me. For whatever reason, i havent been able to provide enough milk for him to thrive and gain weight and we've had to supplement. The direction to supplement DID come from both our pedi and lacation consultant. Some people are so self righteous with NO consideration as to why people make the decisions that they have to make.

And where did she get the info that ff babies are 5x more likely to die?

I wondered that too! I am the first in my family to BF and my neices, nephews, and cousins are all healthy kids!

It really bothers me too that she is teaching her son that formula "hurts babies".

Soon2BMrsWiley · March 2010

hamillm:
Soon2BMrsWiley:

That pisses me off. I'm typing this as i nurse my son, too. Our situation in feeding him has been agonizing to me. For whatever reason, i havent been able to provide enough milk for him to thrive and gain weight and we've had to supplement. The direction to supplement DID come from both our pedi and lacation consultant. Some people are so self righteous with NO consideration as to why people make the decisions that they have to make.

And where did she get the info that ff babies are 5x more likely to die?

I wondered that too! I am the first in my family to BF and my neices, nephews, and cousins are all healthy kids!

It really bothers me too that she is teaching her son that formula "hurts babies".

Seriously. What happens if his wife can't bf one day?

Temp206787500007404 · March 2010

She should read some of the links Fearless Formula Feeder posts -- there is little to no evidence that says BF'ing is linked to increased IQ, better immune systems, etc.

Most of the correlation comes from the fact that the demographic of women most likely to BF usually has higher educations, better jobs, more money, etc and are likely to encourage their children to strive for the same and enroll them in educational preschools, activities, etc to foster that. They also get more consistent and quality medical care, etc. Breastmilk is definitely natural, and the original source of a baby's nourishment, but there is nothing to say that it is nutritionally better based on the reasons above.

I'm not anti-BF at all -- and I think all women should support each other and quit undermining each other and our decisions. I cringed when her 6-yo said that formula hurts babies or when she told the shopowner that she was undermining Women's Health by giving out samples. RIDICULOUS.

uagirl · March 2010

jessloveschase08:

I had to comment back. It was mean... but she seems way too self-righteous...

I probably shouldn't go here, but I read your comment, and pregnancy has made me lose my filter. Whether you agree with her or not, resorting to name calling makes you look no better than her. It's one thing to disagree and attempt to make an intelligent comment about why you disagree, but it's another to attack someone for having a different opinion.

I don't agree with her at all, but I also think she's entitled to her opinion, no matter how wrong I may feel it is.

uagirl · March 2010

Soon2BMrsWiley:
hamillm:
Soon2BMrsWiley:

That pisses me off. I'm typing this as i nurse my son, too. Our situation in feeding him has been agonizing to me. For whatever reason, i havent been able to provide enough milk for him to thrive and gain weight and we've had to supplement. The direction to supplement DID come from both our pedi and lacation consultant. Some people are so self righteous with NO consideration as to why people make the decisions that they have to make.

And where did she get the info that ff babies are 5x more likely to die?

I wondered that too! I am the first in my family to BF and my neices, nephews, and cousins are all healthy kids!

It really bothers me too that she is teaching her son that formula "hurts babies".

Seriously. What happens if his wife can't bf one day?

My mom couldn't BF my brother and I due to a medical condition. She tried with me, and that was when they found out something was wrong.

I can't believe she would teach her son that people feeding formula are hurting their babies.

star21gazer · March 2010

Um wow...I just don't know what to say. I usually don't post on BF posts mainly because I feel it's a personal choice for each and every woman and I am not going to judge someone for their choices.

But this lady is judging someone she doesn't know on her decision to not breastfeed. And then the bigger catch is this lady is acting like she was the victim in the situation. I would have probably acted similarly to the shop owner.

I just don't understand some people...and I proudly have FF Aubrey from day one...no I didn't breastfeed...I am not going to hide it...I have several reasons to my choice but in the end it was my choice and I made it with plenty of knowledge and research before doing it.

amandabrooke81 · March 2010

So I BF DS, am a LLLI member {and USBC}, have written into Congress to support BFing legislation, and will continue to support BFing post-DS's weaning...

I'm APPALLED at Grenier's post.

Obviously she feels proud of her response to the store owner, but what good did it do to educate, sway, or encourage breastfeeding? Answer: It didn't. All it did was stir up controversy and perhaps even dissuade some preggers BFing moms who read that post to pre-label BFing as "extreme" or "liberal." At least that's what I thought when reading her post...and I fully support BFing!

IMHO, a better response to the store owner would have been:

"That's great that you're offering free samples to expectant mothers. In this economy, anything that helps out is a big selling point. Have you considered carrying more products for nursing mothers? BFing is a much more economical decision, in addition to being the best nutrition for your child........"

If she'd approached the conversation from a logical business perspective then it'd be more effective than trying to persuade an obvious FF-supporter by ramming the quick facts sheet down her throat in a confrontational manner.

Poor taste.

kkh2002 · March 2010

As someone who was absolutely heartbroken to not be able to BF, I'd be pretty damn likely to throat punch someone who questioned my parenting choices. And I'd use post-partum depression and post traumatic stress disorder as my defense in court.

It's a good thing I'm not the violent type ;-)

RachelJohnson · March 2010

uagirl:
jessloveschase08:

I had to comment back. It was mean... but she seems way too self-righteous...

I probably shouldn't go here, but I read your comment, and pregnancy has made me lose my filter. Whether you agree with her or not, resorting to name calling makes you look no better than her. It's one thing to disagree and attempt to make an intelligent comment about why you disagree, but it's another to attack someone for having a different opinion.

I don't agree with her at all, but I also think she's entitled to her opinion, no matter how wrong I may feel it is.

Agree! Show some class!

MissLMS · March 2010

amandabrooke81:

So I BF DS, am a LLLI member {and USBC}, have written into Congress to support BFing legislation, and will continue to support BFing post-DS's weaning...

I'm APPALLED at Grenier's post.

Obviously she feels proud of her response to the store owner, but what good did it do to educate, sway, or encourage breastfeeding? Answer: It didn't. All it did was stir up controversy and perhaps even dissuade some preggers BFing moms who read that post to pre-label BFing as "extreme" or "liberal." At least that's what I thought when reading her post...and I fully support BFing!

IMHO, a better response to the store owner would have been:

"That's great that you're offering free samples to expectant mothers. In this economy, anything that helps out is a big selling point. Have you considered carrying more products for nursing mothers? BFing is a much more economical decision, in addition to being the best nutrition for your child........"

If she'd approached the conversation from a logical business perspective then it'd be more effective than trying to persuade an obvious FF-supporter by ramming the quick facts sheet down her throat in a confrontational manner.

Poor taste.

Yes Yes Yes

As another BF'ing mother, I totally agree with this. This woman is an extremist and the way she approached it was completely wrong. I don't think she accomplished anything but to stir up controversy over the topic.

While I may agree with her on a couple things (I do think that BM is best and that all new mothers should go to a lactation consultant) I think what she did (and what she is teaching her children) is wrong. I can't believe she would tell her son that formula is bad for babies.

lilcrablegs · March 2010

I agree with Amanda and Lydia. I'm very pro-BFing - but the way to promote it is through education, encouragement and SUPPORT.

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