Am I the only one who doesn't believe in T&P?

Hartmaj · March 2010

I really wish I weren't as jaded as I am, but every time I see someone asking for thoughts and prayers, or offering their thoughts and prayers, I can't help but wonder what good it really does. I'm not AT ALL suggesting that support doesn't help - ladies on this board has helped me beyond measure with words of encouragement, advice, information and genuine kind heartedness. I just kind of think that if sperm + egg = embryo = sticky baby just isn't gonna work, it's not gonna work no matter how many people are thinking or praying about it. I think I'm probably the biggest pessimist in the world. I should probably just stop typing. Sorry, bad day I guess.

madelyn07 · March 2010

Well, no, you aren't alone. I don't believe that any amount of T&P is going to make something happen if that something just isn't going to happen.

But I do think T&P are a great source of support and strength.

madelyn07 · March 2010

And I'm sorry you are having a bad day.

Hartmaj · March 2010

madelyn07:
But I do think T&P are a great source of support and strength.

That's a really good point. It is comforting to know that someone out there is thinking about you and hoping for the best, even if you don't ultimately believe it's going to sway the outcome. Sorry again for the negativity. I'm just a little down today.

Edwina.McDunnough · March 2010

I am with you, but I don't begrudge it's importance to others.

Hartmaj · March 2010

madelyn07:
And I'm sorry you are having a bad day.

Thanks! That stupid drive by didn't help.

Edwina.McDunnough · March 2010

I'm sorry you're having a bad day too.

erinandbrockv · March 2010

I don't know if it can make a difference-but I do know that it can't hurt to know others are thinking about me and pulling for me, and vice versa.

Temp590840000005378 · March 2010

I am the same as you, I don't pray so that one is out the window but I like the idea of sending positive thoughts into the universe. I think it's mostly a call for well wishes and good lucks, at least for me. When people ask for T&P's I sometimes wonder if people actually say a prayer or just think a good thought. I dunno, but you aren't alone, and sorry you're having a bad day!!

juliannat · March 2010

erinandbrockv:
I don't know if it can make a difference-but I do know that it can't hurt to know others are thinking about me and pulling for me, and vice versa.

This exactly!! I'm an atheist so I like the thoughts, not the prayers

Sorry you're having a bad day too.

hollymichael · March 2010

madelyn07:

Well, no, you aren't alone. I don't believe that any amount of T&P is going to make something happen if that something just isn't going to happen.

But I do think T&P are a great source of support and strength.

This, exactly.

*Willis* · March 2010

I'm sorry you are having a crummy day.

But I tell people they are in my thoughts because a) I'm thinking about them/their situation and b) I want them to know they have my support. I don't pray so I don't put that option out.

And when I say it, I actually do mean it.

And no worries about being the biggest pessimist - I'm sure I can rival you on some days!

newsbaby · March 2010

madelyn07:
Well, no, you aren't alone. I don't believe that any amount of T&P is going to make something happen if that something just isn't going to happen.
But I do think T&P are a great source of support and strength.

I feel the same.

achapple · March 2010

madelyn07:

Well, no, you aren't alone. I don't believe that any amount of T&P is going to make something happen if that something just isn't going to happen.

But I do think T&P are a great source of support and strength.

I sort of agree. I definately believe personally in "putting it out to the Universe" so to speak. But depending on the day, sometimes I think that's really great and sometimes I think it's worthless. Generally I think it's the support behind T&P's and who knows? Couldn't hurt right? Hopefully. Sorry about the bad day. Hope it gets better.

wiscgirl95 · March 2010

madelyn07:

But I do think T&P are a great source of support and strength.

This. I'm sorry you're having a rough day.

MrsTeacherTrooper · March 2010

My DH agrees with you 100%. He actually had a co-worker say that maybe it would help if DH prayed for us to get pregnant. DH is an atheist so he thought this was pretty funny. He puts the whole T&P into the same category of "If you start the adoption process, you'll get pregnant" - because he feels that one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

I don't think prayers are going to get me pregnant, but the support and strength means a lot to me.

ShannonT08 · March 2010

I am so sorry you are having a bad day. Big hugs to you! I do agree with the others, I consider the T&P from the ladies on this board a great source of strength and support.

*kendrick* · March 2010

I'm sorry you are having a rough day. I am glad that this board is so supportive in the light of many different viewpoints.

My viewpoint: I believe that God is the author of life, science, conception, everything. But, to me, prayer isn't about swaying God, but about building a relationship with God. Just like you can't have a relationship with your BFF without talking to her, I don't believe that I can have a relationship with God without talking to God. Through that talking I relieve stress, clarify my thoughts and feelings, think outside myself to focus on others, listen for God's leading, etc. So, do I believe in "thoughts"? No. Do I believe in prayer? Absolutely. I can''t imagine getting through this without a "best friend" God that I can talk to through every up and down, cry out in anger and sorrow to, ask for help and strength, etc.

BigHairQueen · March 2010

*kendrick*:
I'm sorry you are having a rough day. I am glad that this board is so supportive in the light of many different viewpoints.

My viewpoint: I believe that God is the author of life, science, conception, everything. But, to me, prayer isn't about swaying God, but about building a relationship with God. Just like you can't have a relationship with your BFF without talking to her, I don't believe that I can have a relationship with God without talking to God. Through that talking I relieve stress, clarify my thoughts and feelings, think outside myself to focus on others, listen for God's leading, etc. So, do I believe in "thoughts"? No. Do I believe in prayer? Absolutely. I can''t imagine getting through this without a "best friend" God that I can talk to through every up and down, cry out in anger and sorrow to, ask for help and strength, etc.

This! My relationship with God has grown so much these past few months. I don't know how I would have made it through everything that I have experienced lately. As for thoughts, I'm not sure if they work but it is a great sense of support.

Hartmaj · March 2010

Very nicely put, everyone. I really appreciate all of your heartfelt responses. It's actually really nice to hear what the thoughts and prayers of others mean to you. It's definitely something I'll consider more.

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