And since I need him for his sperm I have a feeling we'll be canceling this IVF cycle. He's been talking to other people who have gone through this and he feels like we're messing with Mother Nature.
I hate him right now. I really, really do.
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OMG, I'm so sorry!! Do you think he will come around or do you really believe him? That is so completely crappy!! I can totally see why you are hating him, I would be soooo upset, UGH!!!
People get medical treatment all of the time - that's how I look at it. Not as intervention. Diabetics and cancer patients are treated all the time - is that intervention with mother nature?
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I'm so sorry. Is there any way you can speak with a therapist so this issue doesn't fester and become a potential deal breaker.
Personally, I don't get the idea of "not messing with Mother Nature." My husband received multiple transfusions as a result of his accident, should he have bled to death rather than mess with nature. Do people who require life-saving organ transplants or chemo therapy mess with nature. Do you think it's possible that he's really afraid of failure and in his convoluted thinking it's easier not to try than risk failure.
I certainly understand your feelings of hatred and hope you're able to resolve this issue in a way where you are on the same page.
TTC since 3-08
IVF # 1 Dec 2011 BFP
DD born at 31 weeks 6-24-12
I can't imagine how you are feeling right now.. I am so sorry.. I would be so angry as well.. Maybe a break with help. I am praying it will!(((hugs))) We are all here for ya girl!
Dx: PCOS, Anovulatory, Amenorrhea 2006 TTC: Sept 2008 IVF#1 Cancelled due to breast biopsy.05/01/20
I'm so sorry - you should consider talking to a therapist/counselor if you really feel strongly about doing it. If you guys don't come to some sort of agreement, and you just don't do it b/c of his perception, then you will probably end up resenting him in the long run. Big ((HUGS)) & GL.
I am so sorry hon! Don't worry - he still might change his mind. At first my DH wasn't on board either, but after watching me go through countless fertility treatments without success he realized that IVF was our only way. If you want to talk about it you know how to find me!
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That sucks! What has he been talking about with these other people? If they're people who've also gone through IVF, what could have possibly been said to make him change his mind? Is it because those people have not been successful yet?
Regardless, you situation is not the same as those people and it sucks that he's changed his mind. As other people have said, medical intervention is used for many things in life and not considered "messing with Mother Nature". This shouldn't be either.
Hopefully he'll change his mind again. Maybe you could consider couples counseling in the mean time? Just a thought.
I hope things work out for you.
PAIFW/SAIFW
DS1 born July 2002 (previous marriage).
TTC since Oct 08. DH Dx w/testicular cancer March 09. MFI due to retrograde ejaculation/azoospermia. 5/2 IVF #1 cancelled due to large follie. 6/14 start Lupron for IVF #1.2. 6/22 start stims. 7/4 ER and Biopsy. 7/9 Transferred 2 (1-4BB and 1-3BB) embryos. 4 frosties. 7/15 +HPT 6dp5dt. 7/18 Beta #1: 193. 7/20 Beta #2: 415. 8/10 1st u/s - It's triplets!
I'm so sorry - you should consider talking to a therapist/counselor if you really feel strongly about doing it. If you guys don't come to some sort of agreement, and you just don't do it b/c of his perception, then you will probably end up resenting him in the long run. Big ((HUGS)) & GL.
As other people have said, medical intervention is used for many things in life and not considered "messing with Mother Nature". This shouldn't be either.
This. It is irrational to pick and choose where to apply the "we shouldn't use medical technology" philosophy. IMO, if you're ok with organ transplants and cancer treatments you should be ok with IVF.
TTC #1 since Dec. 2008
01/10 - DH diagnosed with Azoospermia
05/10 - First Biopsy - producing sperm
08/11 - Second Biopsy..4 vials frozen
08/12 - First IVF BFN & no more vials
Don't know our next plan...
I'm so sorry. That must be especially hard since you've already started your cycle. I hope he comes around, but I agree with others who recommended that you (or both of you) see a therapist to talk it out.
I'm so very sorry.
30 y/o with PCOS
HSG normal, SA essentially normal (slightly low morph but good # and motility)
50 mg Clomid...zip; 100 mg Clomid...nada; 150 mg Clomid...zilch
1/10 Injectable cycle with Gonal-F, Ovidrel, and TI.....Beta 2/22...BFN
2/10 Injectable cycle with Gonal-F and Follistim (long story), Ovidrel..BFN
4/10 Injectable cycle (see above). BFP but early m/c 5w5d.
5/10 Break cycle due to BFC (Big Fat Cyst)...darn it all
6/10 Injectable cycle +IUI...BFN
7/10 Injectable cycle + IUI.....BFP!!!
I'm so sorry. I've been through this same fight with my DH many, many times. What has ultimately worked with my DH is when I point out all of the kids of our friends - who he adores - and remind him that they are all the result of fertility treatments. I also remind him - as unthreateningly as possible - that stalling isn't helping anything. It only causes my eggs to age further and results in more BFNs. Fertilitly treatments and IVF have been around now for a full generation. Science has helped millions of couples and can help you guys too.
Just know that there are others who have gone through this. Holler if you need more e-emotional support!
I am sorry, maybe he is just feeling this way now, maybe he will change his mind. Has he heard the RE talk about it and answer his questions? This could just be poor timing for HIM.
Hoping he just needs some time to stop and reflect. The ladies make some great points regarding "picking and choosing" messing with Mother Nature (Cancer treatments, surgeries, etc.) Very valid point to bring up to you DH.
Try to stay positive and no that your love for each other will get you through this hurdle.
After DX- IF 1996-16 years old; IVF 1 5/2009 BFP! ;MC- 8 W6d- 6/2009 DX w/ Protein S Deficiency and unexplained thin lining Multiple D&C's, Hysterscopy for removal of Scar Tissue, Endometrial Biopsy, 3 BFN FETs, including a year of cancelled due to lining issues (ranging 4.5 to 6.4), Procedure of arcuate uterus, Shocking lining development...9.2.
Moved on to adoption 3/2011
Homestudy approved! 6/27/2011
Forever matched! 7/17/2012
Precious baby boy born 7/30/2012
SAIF & PAIF Always Welcome
Re: DH no longer on board for IVF
I am so sorry that you're going through this. It is tough when you and your DH aren't on the same page. **hugs**
I am so sorry you are going through this.
People get medical treatment all of the time - that's how I look at it. Not as intervention. Diabetics and cancer patients are treated all the time - is that intervention with mother nature?
I'm so sorry. Is there any way you can speak with a therapist so this issue doesn't fester and become a potential deal breaker.
Personally, I don't get the idea of "not messing with Mother Nature." My husband received multiple transfusions as a result of his accident, should he have bled to death rather than mess with nature. Do people who require life-saving organ transplants or chemo therapy mess with nature. Do you think it's possible that he's really afraid of failure and in his convoluted thinking it's easier not to try than risk failure.
I certainly understand your feelings of hatred and hope you're able to resolve this issue in a way where you are on the same page.
FET #1 Dec 2013 BFN
FET # 2 Feb 2014 BFN
No more frosties
IVF #2. September 2014
PGD yielded 2 perfect 5d blasts
SET November 9, 2014
Nov 23, 2014. Another BFN
Not sure where to go from here.
Dx: PCOS, Anovulatory, Amenorrhea 2006
TTC: Sept 2008
IVF#1 Cancelled due to breast biopsy.05/01/20
IVF#1.2- 9/2010 - Cancelled Oversurpressed
IVF#2 Microdose Lupron 10/2010 Beta 11/09=BFN

IVF#3 2/2011 - 2 blasts(2/25) Beta 03/11 =BFN
IVF#4 Lupron 01/02 =2 blasts, beta's 1-4 198,234,398,3100!!BFP
FET 3/2014 2 blasts BETA 3/20=BFP TWINS EDD 11/27 TEAM PINK!!!
World_of_Dennifer
Bloomin'_Babies
Married/Nest_Bio
So sad! I hope you are able to talk to him and come to a decision together!
If it wasn't for IVF, I would never be able to have my husbands child. (MFI) Sometime mother nature needs a little help!
That sucks! What has he been talking about with these other people? If they're people who've also gone through IVF, what could have possibly been said to make him change his mind? Is it because those people have not been successful yet?
Regardless, you situation is not the same as those people and it sucks that he's changed his mind. As other people have said, medical intervention is used for many things in life and not considered "messing with Mother Nature". This shouldn't be either.
Hopefully he'll change his mind again. Maybe you could consider couples counseling in the mean time? Just a thought.
I hope things work out for you.
PAIFW/SAIFW
DS1 born July 2002 (previous marriage).
TTC since Oct 08. DH Dx w/testicular cancer March 09.
MFI due to retrograde ejaculation/azoospermia.
5/2 IVF #1 cancelled due to large follie.
6/14 start Lupron for IVF #1.2. 6/22 start stims.
7/4 ER and Biopsy.
7/9 Transferred 2 (1-4BB and 1-3BB) embryos. 4 frosties.
7/15 +HPT 6dp5dt. 7/18 Beta #1: 193. 7/20 Beta #2: 415.
8/10 1st u/s - It's triplets!
I completely agree with all of this.
I'm so sorry.
(((((HUGS)))))
I hope that he comes around.
This. It is irrational to pick and choose where to apply the "we shouldn't use medical technology" philosophy. IMO, if you're ok with organ transplants and cancer treatments you should be ok with IVF.
oh no. i'm sorry.
i hope he comes around. ((hugs))
I'm so sorry. That must be especially hard since you've already started your cycle. I hope he comes around, but I agree with others who recommended that you (or both of you) see a therapist to talk it out.
I'm so very sorry.
I'm so sorry. I've been through this same fight with my DH many, many times. What has ultimately worked with my DH is when I point out all of the kids of our friends - who he adores - and remind him that they are all the result of fertility treatments. I also remind him - as unthreateningly as possible - that stalling isn't helping anything. It only causes my eggs to age further and results in more BFNs. Fertilitly treatments and IVF have been around now for a full generation. Science has helped millions of couples and can help you guys too.
Just know that there are others who have gone through this. Holler if you need more e-emotional support!
IUI #1: December 2008 - BFN
IVF #1: Microdose Lupron - July 2009; only got 1 egg; BFN
IVF #2: Natural IVF - Sept 2009; BFP!; D&C Nov. 2009
IVF #3: Natural IVF - ER: Feb 4, 2010 - 1 "M2" egg retrieved; ET: Feb 9; Beta#1 (19dpo): 2567; Beta #2: 6933; BFP w/ singleton w/strong hrtbt! DS born October 2010
TTC#2
IVF #4: Natural IVF - ER: Nov. 20, 2011; ET: Nov. 25, 2011; BFP! Beta#1 (19dpo): 1918; Saw hrtbt on 12/28/11!
I am sorry, maybe he is just feeling this way now, maybe he will change his mind. Has he heard the RE talk about it and answer his questions? This could just be poor timing for HIM.
I hope he comes around. Good luck
Hoping he just needs some time to stop and reflect. The ladies make some great points regarding "picking and choosing" messing with Mother Nature (Cancer treatments, surgeries, etc.) Very valid point to bring up to you DH.
Try to stay positive and no that your love for each other will get you through this hurdle.
DX w/ Protein S Deficiency and unexplained thin lining
Multiple D&C's, Hysterscopy for removal of Scar Tissue, Endometrial Biopsy, 3 BFN FETs, including a year of cancelled due to lining issues (ranging 4.5 to 6.4),
Procedure of arcuate uterus, Shocking lining development...9.2.
Moved on to adoption 3/2011
Homestudy approved! 6/27/2011
Forever matched! 7/17/2012
Precious baby boy born 7/30/2012
SAIF & PAIF Always Welcome