well, i always get confused by this, but i think this is how it goes....
so they both feel they are male, but are attracted to males. so just b/c they were born with a vagina doesn't mean they "feel" like a woman. if they get the anatomy they feel is correct then worry about who they are attracted to and that happens to be other males, then they are theoretically male and gay.
eta: and why disturbing? b/c they aren't "normal"
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I will be in the minority but I say yes, especially if they still have their girl parts. I don't care if you "think" you are a man. If it quacks like a duck...
This is just like the first pregnant man. It was a blown out media frenzy when really, "he" is not a man at all.
ETA: And no where did I say I am disturbed, before the crap storm starts.
No, lesbians do not disturb me in the least. nor do children being raised in happy homes. Im just weirded out by the idea and visual of a pregnant man. It was funny when the Governator did it, but that was back when it really couldn't happen...now that it can, i just think those visuals are going to take some getting used to.
the "lesbians" question was totally apart from the "man-pregnancy" thing.
I believe it makes them 2 gay men. I don't find it disturbing because I do believe some people are born with brains that operate as a gender that doesn't match their "equipment." I can't imagine how that must feel.
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I'm still trying to understand why it's disturbing. And yes, IE, there is some definite media whoring going on.
Either way, I've grown tired of having to explain to narrow minded people that gender is not black and white. Gender is as much mental as it is physical. The people who need this explained are the people who will never understand. Or the people who will make fun of it or call it disturbing no matter what you tell them.
so you guys are saying that if you encountered a pregnant man on a street or in your ob's office you wouldn't doubletake just a little bit?
Im gonna go out on a limb here...I would. That doesn't mean I would say their baby doesn't belong in their family or anything insane like that. Im just saying, it's going to take my mind a little bit to get wrapped around that visual.
so you guys are saying that if you encountered a pregnant man on a street or in your ob's office you wouldn't doubletake just a little bit?
Im gonna go out on a limb here...I would. That doesn't mean I would say their baby doesn't belong in their family or anything insane like that. Im just saying, it's going to take my mind a little bit to get wrapped around that visual.
Doing a double take because something is out of the ordinary, and calling it disturbing are two very different things.
so you guys are saying that if you encountered a pregnant man on a street or in your ob's office you wouldn't doubletake just a little bit?
Im gonna go out on a limb here...I would. That doesn't mean I would say their baby doesn't belong in their family or anything insane like that. Im just saying, it's going to take my mind a little bit to get wrapped around that visual.
Did you see the media circus around another couple who did this? I imagine if I saw someone transgendered or who identified as male who was pregnant, I'd probably be interested. Disturbed? no.
However, I'd assume, rightly that the individual had all the necessary parts to reproduce and, therefore would not be gawking and dumbfounded.
What I don't understand is how you can feel like a man, want to be a man, take hormones and even go through surgery to physically be a man, yet then want to do something as female as carrying a child. It is very contradicting.
I also find the media whoring annoying. There is nothing medically remarkable about this pregnancy, IMO. So like Octomom, bubble boy dad, John Gosselin and all the rest, this person clearly is an AW. But I don't find the situation itself disturbing.
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What I don't understand is how you can feel like a man, want to be a man, take hormones and even go through surgery to physically be a man, yet then want to do something as female as carrying a child. It is very contradicting.
I agree with your contradition...and how can you really "be a man" if you held on to some female leftovers? If you're going to be a man, why not do it all the way? Why keep the original parts?
What I don't understand is how you can feel like a man, want to be a man, take hormones and even go through surgery to physically be a man, yet then want to do something as female as carrying a child. It is very contradicting.
I agree with your contradition...and how can you really "be a man" if you held on to some female leftovers? If you're going to be a man, why not do it all the way? Why keep the original parts?
Because it's not easy and it's expensive. It's not like your uterus is attached with velcro. It's major surgery.
It's not like they woke up one day and decided to go through surgery to change their sex. It is extremely expensive and insurance rarely covers any of it.
What I don't understand is how you can feel like a man, want to be a man, take hormones and even go through surgery to physically be a man, yet then want to do something as female as carrying a child. It is very contradicting.
I agree with your contradition...and how can you really "be a man" if you held on to some female leftovers? If you're going to be a man, why not do it all the way? Why keep the original parts?
because "being a man" is more than genitals. I don't get what people don't grasp.
What I don't understand is how you can feel like a man, want to be a man, take hormones and even go through surgery to physically be a man, yet then want to do something as female as carrying a child. It is very contradicting.
this is the only thing i give a raised eyebrow too. i did for the other prego man too. i seems like these two things would be in direct conflict. ::shrug:: whatever floats their boat
but i do agree the pp that AWness involving kids these days is fvcking insane. jesus - if you want a baby, have a baby. if you want 300 babies in utero at the same time, fine just stay off the damn tv!
//vent
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What I don't understand is how you can feel like a man, want to be a man, take hormones and even go through surgery to physically be a man, yet then want to do something as female as carrying a child. It is very contradicting.
Interesting question. I agree that it is contradictory on the surface.
My thought is that the desire to procreate exists in both sexes. That desire doesn't change when the sex changes. Since society as a whole is close-minded and sucks balls, the likelihood of a transgendered couple being allowed to adopt would be slim to oh-hell-no - they probably realize that, 'Hey I've got this uterus still so why not use it?' and viola, pregnant dudes.
ETA: Yikes on the run-on sentence. I do know better. Or do I?
What I don't understand is how you can feel like a man, want to be a man, take hormones and even go through surgery to physically be a man, yet then want to do something as female as carrying a child. It is very contradicting.
I agree with your contradition...and how can you really "be a man" if you held on to some female leftovers? If you're going to be a man, why not do it all the way? Why keep the original parts?
Ummm, alrighty then. I'm actually confused as to why it even matters. And it's not like having surgery is either cheap or easy. People should be free to self identify as they see fit. And I'm also betting that in the long history of the world there have been plenty of men who wouldn't mind knowing what it's like to give birth. That doesn't make anyone less of a man.
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What I don't understand is how you can feel like a man, want to be a man, take hormones and even go through surgery to physically be a man, yet then want to do something as female as carrying a child. It is very contradicting.
Interesting question. I agree that it is contradictory on the surface.
My thought is that the desire to procreate exists in both sexes. That desire doesn't change when the sex changes. Since society as a whole is close-minded and sucks balls, the likelihood of a transgendered couple being allowed to adopt would be slim to oh-hell-no - they probably realize that, 'Hey I've got this uterus still so why not use it?' and viola, pregnant dudes.
this was sort of my thinking as well....yeah, glad you responded and knocked sense into me
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What I don't understand is how you can feel like a man, want to be a man, take hormones and even go through surgery to physically be a man, yet then want to do something as female as carrying a child. It is very contradicting.
GOLF CLAPS. ita.
its a joke. its all for publicity.
it's not even really news anymore- in the end- it's just A WOMAN HAVING A BABY. NBD.
Re: this is just...disturbing...
No, it doesn't.
Why is this disturbing to you?
well, i always get confused by this, but i think this is how it goes....
so they both feel they are male, but are attracted to males. so just b/c they were born with a vagina doesn't mean they "feel" like a woman. if they get the anatomy they feel is correct then worry about who they are attracted to and that happens to be other males, then they are theoretically male and gay.
eta: and why disturbing? b/c they aren't "normal"
So are you saying that lesbians disturb you?
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I don't think it's disturbing at all.
Two loving people want to bring a baby into the world and have the ability to do so.
I will be in the minority but I say yes, especially if they still have their girl parts. I don't care if you "think" you are a man. If it quacks like a duck...
This is just like the first pregnant man. It was a blown out media frenzy when really, "he" is not a man at all.
ETA: And no where did I say I am disturbed, before the crap storm starts.
No, lesbians do not disturb me in the least. nor do children being raised in happy homes. Im just weirded out by the idea and visual of a pregnant man. It was funny when the Governator did it, but that was back when it really couldn't happen...now that it can, i just think those visuals are going to take some getting used to.
the "lesbians" question was totally apart from the "man-pregnancy" thing.
I don't get "disturbing."
Whoa, very cool siggy picture. Beautiful! ?
I'm still trying to understand why it's disturbing. And yes, IE, there is some definite media whoring going on.
Either way, I've grown tired of having to explain to narrow minded people that gender is not black and white. Gender is as much mental as it is physical. The people who need this explained are the people who will never understand. Or the people who will make fun of it or call it disturbing no matter what you tell them.
so you guys are saying that if you encountered a pregnant man on a street or in your ob's office you wouldn't doubletake just a little bit?
Im gonna go out on a limb here...I would. That doesn't mean I would say their baby doesn't belong in their family or anything insane like that. Im just saying, it's going to take my mind a little bit to get wrapped around that visual.
Doing a double take because something is out of the ordinary, and calling it disturbing are two very different things.
Did you see the media circus around another couple who did this? I imagine if I saw someone transgendered or who identified as male who was pregnant, I'd probably be interested. Disturbed? no.
However, I'd assume, rightly that the individual had all the necessary parts to reproduce and, therefore would not be gawking and dumbfounded.
Well thanks! The best part about this pic is that my husband is wearing a girls beanie with twisty curly things on the side. LOL
Mommas Little Yankee Fan!

I agree with your contradition...and how can you really "be a man" if you held on to some female leftovers? If you're going to be a man, why not do it all the way? Why keep the original parts?
Because it's not easy and it's expensive. It's not like your uterus is attached with velcro. It's major surgery.
It's not like they woke up one day and decided to go through surgery to change their sex. It is extremely expensive and insurance rarely covers any of it.
because "being a man" is more than genitals. I don't get what people don't grasp.
this is the only thing i give a raised eyebrow too. i did for the other prego man too. i seems like these two things would be in direct conflict. ::shrug:: whatever floats their boat
but i do agree the pp that AWness involving kids these days is fvcking insane. jesus - if you want a baby, have a baby. if you want 300 babies in utero at the same time, fine just stay off the damn tv!
//vent
Interesting question. I agree that it is contradictory on the surface.
My thought is that the desire to procreate exists in both sexes. That desire doesn't change when the sex changes. Since society as a whole is close-minded and sucks balls, the likelihood of a transgendered couple being allowed to adopt would be slim to oh-hell-no - they probably realize that, 'Hey I've got this uterus still so why not use it?' and viola, pregnant dudes.
ETA: Yikes on the run-on sentence. I do know better. Or do I?
Ummm, alrighty then. I'm actually confused as to why it even matters. And it's not like having surgery is either cheap or easy. People should be free to self identify as they see fit. And I'm also betting that in the long history of the world there have been plenty of men who wouldn't mind knowing what it's like to give birth. That doesn't make anyone less of a man.
this was sort of my thinking as well....yeah, glad you responded and knocked sense into me
I just think people are seeing things very black and white. Man = no babies, no ute, attracted to women.
Women = babies, ute, attracted to men.
Your genitals do not dictate your desires, your thought processes or even ::gasp:: your gender.
GOLF CLAPS. ita.
its a joke. its all for publicity.
it's not even really news anymore- in the end- it's just A WOMAN HAVING A BABY. NBD.