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DEBBIE33CASEY · December 2009

Why is a birth only considered 'natural' if the mother wasn't medicated? I think that's crap.

I had an epi and consider DD's birth to have been natural since it came out of my down-unders! Sorry, this just irks me. Should it be considered 'unnatural'? Kudos to the women who had their babies with no epi, but I don't consider it 'more natural' enough than what epidural getting mothers did for them to get the word natural.

Rant rant rant...

kdiguise · December 2009

I had DS naturally and unmedicated. I don't consider natural to be unmedicated, just vaginal.

*Caress* · December 2009

Yeah I wasn't sure what she meant by "Natural".

cubsfan1 · December 2009

If that is your definition of natural, then your birth was natural. Why get so hung up on what other people label your birth experience? I don't get it.

Geekchick921 · December 2009

ShufflerChick · December 2009

What I don't get are the women who had to be induced with pitocin but still didn't get the epi because they wanted a "natural" birth. Hello, you're already on a drug! I just think that's crazy because it's supposed to be so much more painful on pitocin, I couldn't do it without some pain management.

But I agree with you. "Natural" probably just isn't the right word for it. I usually say "med free" instead.

tarebear9891 · December 2009

I don't ever understand why people get sensitive about the way their baby is born...the end result is always the same. I had an emergency c-section and it was definitely not "natural" but I don't regret having it or get sensitive when people call it unnatural. I also think there is a difference in natural and vaginal childbirths. Really though, birth shouldn't have to be something people have to defend.

sweetfrogy · December 2009

Unless you are ashamed that you used drugs, I don't know why what other people think would bother you so much.

MrsJMB · December 2009

ShufflerChick:

What I don't get are the women who had to be induced with pitocin but still didn't get the epi because they wanted a "natural" birth. Hello, you're already on a drug! I just think that's crazy because it's supposed to be so much more painful on pitocin, I couldn't do it without some pain management.

But I agree with you. "Natural" probably just isn't the right word for it. I usually say "med free" instead.

I have no thoughts on the natural vs unnatural, but I did get induced with pitocin and didn't have an epi because I just didn't want one. That was simply my personal preference and I would go back and do it exactly the same way.

TrumpetBride · December 2009

cubsfan1:

If that is your definition of natural, then your birth was natural. Why get so hung up on what other people label your birth experience? I don't get it.

Yes Yes Yes

Gramyson · December 2009

that post is coming from the same person who said that if a woman chooses to have a c/s because she doesn't want to experience a vaginal delivery, she shouldn't have children.

fyi.

kdiguise · December 2009

ShufflerChick:
What I don't get are the women who had to be induced with pitocin but still didn't get the epi because they wanted a "natural" birth. Hello, you're already on a drug! I just think that's crazy because it's supposed to be so much more painful on pitocin, I couldn't do it without some pain management.
But I agree with you. "Natural" probably just isn't the right word for it. I usually say "med free" instead.

I went unmedicated but had to have pitocin after I didn't progress fast enough after my water broke (didn't want to risk infection). I wanted to have the least amount of crap in my system as possible, it was just my preference and I knew my body could handle it. Hopefully next time I won't need pitocin as I'd really like to experience labor without it.

BitterOldHag · December 2009

I consider a vaginal delivery to be just that; vaginal. A medicated delivery is medicated and unmedicated delivery is unmedicated.

All this natural/unnatural shiit is just another way for mothers to lord it over mothers while they pump up their own egos at the expense of making others feel bad.

I don't give a crap how you got pregnant, delivered or what you used to do either as long as I can see pics of your LOs.

The result is the same: a baby.

:::hops back over to the biitchy board on my broomstick:

meyemn28 · December 2009

I don't understand the whole obssession with epi or not. When you are doing something painful you may choose to be medicated. There is nothing wrong with that. It's not like people are going around saying "I refused anesthesia when I got my appendix taken out, I'm so glad I did it naturally!" or anything like that for any other medical procedure. People don't boast about how they chose to stay awake when they got their wisdom teeth pulled. It really is about whether or not you think something is painful enough to require extra medication. It has nothing to do with being natural, and I think people make way too big a deal over it.

(hope it's ok if I post here a few days early)

ShufflerChick · December 2009

MrsJMB:
ShufflerChick:

What I don't get are the women who had to be induced with pitocin but still didn't get the epi because they wanted a "natural" birth. Hello, you're already on a drug! I just think that's crazy because it's supposed to be so much more painful on pitocin, I couldn't do it without some pain management.

But I agree with you. "Natural" probably just isn't the right word for it. I usually say "med free" instead.

I have no thoughts on the natural vs unnatural, but I did get induced with pitocin and didn't have an epi because I just didn't want one. That was simply my personal preference and I would go back and do it exactly the same way.

Personal preference is one thing, and there are plenty of reasons to not want the epi specifically. But for someone to say they're not getting one because they want to go "natural", while on pitocin, I just don't understand.

phishphood · December 2009

BitterOldHag:
I consider a vaginal delivery to be just that; vaginal. A medicated delivery is medicated and unmedicated delivery is unmedicated.

All this natural/unnatural shiit is just another way for mothers to lord it over mothers while they pump up their own egos at the expense of making others feel bad.

I don't give a crap how you got pregnant, delivered or what you used to do either as long as I can see pics of your LOs.

The result is the same: a baby.

:::hops back over to the biitchy board on my broomstick::

::swoon::

AmandaLynnP · December 2009

I think "natural" means how you would have a baby in nature (without medicine). So, an epidural would be unnatural. Don't get me wrong, I'm jealous of people who had natural births. I always wanted to go natural, but I had to have a c-section.

BitterOldHag · December 2009

fredalina:
BitterOldHag:

I consider a vaginal delivery to be just that; vaginal. A medicated delivery is medicated and unmedicated delivery is unmedicated.

All this natural/unnatural shiit is just another way for mothers to lord it over mothers while they pump up their own egos at the expense of making others feel bad.

I don't give a crap how you got pregnant, delivered or what you used to do either as long as I can see pics of your LOs.

The result is the same: a baby.

:::hops back over to the biitchy board on my broomstick:

ITA. i haven't had any kind of birth and probably never will so i'm not sensitive about the word. However, i hate the word "natural" in general because it's so grating to an adoptive parent to hear things like "Who is her 'natural' mother?" or "What are her 'natural' parents doing now?" As if we're synthetic?

I PPH you Fred. But you knew that. You're Baby D's mom in every way that matters and it will damn well be legal someday too.

And if you're a synthetic mom then I'm a freak of nature.

Deegirl322 · December 2009

kdiguise:
I had DS naturally and unmedicated. I don't consider natural to be unmedicated, just vaginal.

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This, but except I think you mean you don't consider natural to be medicated, just vaginal. ?I agree with this. ?

DEBBIE33CASEY · December 2009

BitterOldHag:

I consider a vaginal delivery to be just that; vaginal. A medicated delivery is medicated and unmedicated delivery is unmedicated.

All this natural/unnatural shiit is just another way for mothers to lord it over mothers while they pump up their own egos at the expense of making others feel bad.

I don't give a crap how you got pregnant, delivered or what you used to do either as long as I can see pics of your LOs.

The result is the same: a baby.

:::hops back over to the biitchy board on my broomstick:

This is exactly how I feel and was unable to word it- thank you!

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