Charting and temping question

ruthy5489 · November 2009

Do you temp at the same exact time every morning or does it change based on your schedule? Anyone set their alarm just to temp and go back to sleep?

Because my schedule changes day-to-day, I just temp when I wake up which is still within the same 2 hours of each morning.. but some people say you should temp the EXACT same time. Just curious to see how many people are that precise and how many don't worry about it that much.

mdluv21 · November 2009

It really needs to be within 30 minutes of the same time to be accurate. We all have a few open circles every month but for the most part wake up at the same time every day. I wake up at 5:00am to temp even on the weekends I wake up and temp and go back to sleep. My dog wakes me up at this time to be fed anyways...He is better than an alarm clock but I also set one just in case.

gymnst1013 · November 2009

Yes, I temp at the same time and I do set an alarm clock to temp and go back to sleep. Temping within the same 2 hours completely defeats the purpose of charting. The whole point of charting is to get your temp at the same time every day after 3 hours of sleep. If you don't do it that way, it's not an accurate chart and you may as well not bother.

LnR70707 · November 2009

yeah....EVERYONE that knows how to correctly chart should know you need to temp at the same time. If you are able to (i.e. you are working random shifts) it is critical.

Nicole_H · November 2009

I try and temp around the same time every morning. I set my alarm, but sometimes I'll wake up early, or a little late. They're usually within the hour though. When I was temping for practice before we started trying I wasn't as good about doing it at the same time, and my charts looked nuts, especially the first one! If you don't temp at around the same time everyday, it seems like it can really skew your stats.

griffenhc · November 2009

I set the alarm, so even on weekends (or days with a later work start time) I temp at the same time. Then go back to sleep sometimes.

ruthy5489 · November 2009

So then I shouldnt even bother charting? is it really that critical to be within 30min? because my sleep schedule is so different every night.. (3 nights ago went to sleep at 5Am, 2 nights ago went to sleep at 10Pm, last night went to sleep at 4Am.) so since my schedule is that off and i decide on say 7Am every morning I risk not sleeping 3 hours prior. isn't that more important??

gymnst1013 · November 2009

ruthy5489:
So then I shouldnt even bother charting? is it really that critical to be within 30min? because my sleep schedule is so different every night.. (3 nights ago went to sleep at 5Am, 2 nights ago went to sleep at 10Pm, last night went to sleep at 4Am.) so since my schedule is that off and i decide on say 7Am every morning I risk not sleeping 3 hours prior. isn't that more important??

YES, it is EXTREMELY critical to be within 30 minutes and preferably less. You said in your original post that you get up within the same 2 hours every day. Is that the case or not? It doesn't sound like it from the times you just gave. If so, I would recommend finding a time during the night where you generally have been asleep for 3 hours and set an alarm to temp then.

LnR70707 · November 2009

ruthy5489:
So then I shouldnt even bother charting? is it really that critical to be within 30min? because my sleep schedule is so different every night.. (3 nights ago went to sleep at 5Am, 2 nights ago went to sleep at 10Pm, last night went to sleep at 4Am.) so since my schedule is that off and i decide on say 7Am every morning I risk not sleeping 3 hours prior. isn't that more important??

Ok...I'm assuming these are work related differences, so I'd pick the time you are most likely to get a prior solid 3 hours of sleep from

Abc15379 · November 2009

OP, between your posts here and on 1st tri, I'd say you might want to slow down and take some time to learn. Lurk, check out TCOYF and redo the FF tutorial if you are interested in charting your cycle. And remember, everyone is different. One person's experiences have nothing to do with how it will be for you. Good Luck!

cndmexbaby · November 2009

I chart at different times, even four hours apart and I see a clear shift that matches with my opks. I don't feel as confident with my chart but its the best I can do.

ruthy5489:
So then I shouldnt even bother charting? is it really that critical to be within 30min? because my sleep schedule is so different every night.. (3 nights ago went to sleep at 5Am, 2 nights ago went to sleep at 10Pm, last night went to sleep at 4Am.) so since my schedule is that off and i decide on say 7Am every morning I risk not sleeping 3 hours prior. isn't that more important??

ruthy5489 · November 2009

Slow down and take some time to learn?? WDYT this board is for?? The main purpose for this board is for newbies like me to come ask "stupid" questions.. I don't get why you people think you need to jump down my throat everytime I ask a question..Most of the time I just laugh the bitchiness off because it's stupid & I could care less but I think you all need to chill out.

ruthy5489 · November 2009

Abc15379:
OP, between your posts here and on 1st tri, I'd say you might want to slow down and take some time to learn. Lurk, check out TCOYF and redo the FF tutorial if you are interested in charting your cycle. And remember, everyone is different. One person's experiences have nothing to do with how it will be for you. Good Luck!

& If you actually read my post in 1st tri you would know I was just asking simply how long it took until they got their BFP because I was curious.. I never asked hey based on your experience when do you think it'll happen to me?? I know it is different for everyone I was just curious to hear their stories.

Thankyou to the people that actually just answered my question.

ruthy5489 · November 2009

cndmexbaby:
I chart at different times, even four hours apart and I see a clear shift that matches with my opks. I don't feel as confident with my chart but its the best I can do.
ruthy5489:
So then I shouldnt even bother charting? is it really that critical to be within 30min? because my sleep schedule is so different every night.. (3 nights ago went to sleep at 5Am, 2 nights ago went to sleep at 10Pm, last night went to sleep at 4Am.) so since my schedule is that off and i decide on say 7Am every morning I risk not sleeping 3 hours prior. isn't that more important??

Oh thank-god I'm not the only one! haha it really is the best I can do as well...& yeah Im not completely confident in my chart but I dont agree at all that it is pointless to chart when you dont temp at different times. People are crazy. Atleast now that I am charting I am more aware of what happens to my body, I now know that I get ovulation pain, noticed the pain before of course but didnt know it occured during ovulation every month so hadn't even linked the two until now since Im charting.

Abc15379 · November 2009

You posted on 1st tri that the girls who got a late BFP 'gave you hope'. How the fvck is that not thinking their experience would/could be like yours? Your 'newbie' questions and frantic need for reassurance would all be calmed if you took some time to lurk and learn. And honey, I am plenty chill. Just trying to help. As I said before, Good Luck.

ruthy5489 · November 2009

How does that in any way say to you that I am taking their experiences and believing its going to happen to me?? Yes, I was geting down about all the negatives and when they said they got a few negatives before a possitive it did give me more hope. I'm just trying to keep myself possitive, and happy...Im sorry you don't seem to understand the meaning of hope.

Abc15379 · November 2009

You have MUCH to learn. And I doubt you will be making any friends here with that mentality. Cheers.

willowcormar · November 2009

ABC~ You were way nicer than I ever think I could have been.

willowcormar · November 2009

ruthy5489:
Slow down and take some time to learn?? WDYT this board is for?? The main purpose for this board is for newbies like me to come ask "stupid" questions.. I don't get why you people think you need to jump down my throat everytime I ask a question..Most of the time I just laugh the bitchiness off because it's stupid & I could care less but I think you all need to chill out.

Yes, this is here for you to learn but at the same time, more than likely what you are asking was asked before many times. People get tired of answering the same thing over and over. Their advice is to learn. That is not a bad thing. It helped me so much! GL TTC, but simmer down. Most of the people who responded to you were nice and calm, and you were flipping out. Not a great way to make friends and a good support team.

Abc15379 · November 2009

I really tried Willow, but it fell on deaf ears. As usual. Oh well.

ruthy5489 · November 2009

Yeah most people were calm, but I wasnt directing my response to them. There were a couple that were just rude in how they were answering my question. In face a couple didn't even answer my question they were just talking to me like I was stupid. I don't appreciate being talked down to.

willowcormar · November 2009

ruthy5489:
Yeah most people were calm, but I wasnt directing my response to them. There were a couple that were just rude in how they were answering my question. In face a couple didn't even answer my question they were just talking to me like I was stupid. I don't appreciate being talked down to.

I understand that, but try to just let it roll off.

ruthy5489 · November 2009

Thankyou for the advice, I actually have let so many comments go from these people but now its just geting rediculous..i'll try my best tho. Im not the only one either I've seen others get shot down for their questions and they were just as offended as I am.

Abc15379 · November 2009

Pretty much everyone gets flamed at some point. You move on, and eventually become part of the board. this was nothing until you blew it up. If you want P&R try the Nest GP.

ruthy5489 · November 2009

but for every question I ask?? Im sorry I guess that was my breaking point. when I come on here for help and every one is just responding rudely...I didnt even think I blew up on here..I over-reacted on kdodges post but I still stand by what I said that people on this board are a way too rude to the newbies.

willowcormar · November 2009

Abc15379:
Pretty much everyone gets flamed at some point. You move on, and eventually become part of the board. this was nothing until you blew it up. If you want P&R try the Nest GP.

oooh yeah. I got flamed wondering if we should "try" for a special due date/month. lol. I learned quick and moved on. Now I have gotten to know most people who are on here often and love it. I get to tell them all I'm PG! It helps. lol.

Abc15379 · November 2009

Ruthy, I'm gonna level with you here. Firstly, people weren't rude to you with every question you asked. Your post on 1st tri was welcomed by polite posters with honest answers. This post was the same. If you really think I was that rude to suggest you hang around and learn more, then I don't know what to tell you other than you're going to need a thicker skin. Not to mention the fact that you posted about the same exact thing earlier, and Mixie flat out told you that you need to temp at the same time everyday. Yet you still posted this question. You don't make much sense.

ruthy5489 · November 2009

I was talking about every post on GP. 1st tri was very polite when they answered.. also I don't recall posting the same question twice... As far as I know that was my first question that had anything to do with charting.. in fact that was my first question today besides a poll about re-gifting. Idk. I'm over this... I guess this site isn't what I thought.

willowcormar · November 2009

MaybeBaby2 · November 2009

To answer your OP, yes it is very important to take your temp as close to the same time as you can. Apparently you're not able to do so with your fluctuating work hours? If you know of a time you're asleep for 3 hours prior, set your alarm clock for then and go with that.
FWIW, no one was rude to you on this post. I think you're reacting to the fact you're not receiving the answers you want.
And you did ask this question (generally speaking) yesterday morning. Where another poster and myself both told you that to get the most accurate chart, you need to take your temp at the same time everyday.

https://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/26742218.aspx

KatieM1106 · November 2009

I don't worry about it that much.

Of course, I am in month 7 and no BFP, so I am not one to ask

KatieM1106 · November 2009

cndmexbaby:
I chart at different times, even four hours apart and I see a clear shift that matches with my opks. I don't feel as confident with my chart but its the best I can do.
ruthy5489:
So then I shouldnt even bother charting? is it really that critical to be within 30min? because my sleep schedule is so different every night.. (3 nights ago went to sleep at 5Am, 2 nights ago went to sleep at 10Pm, last night went to sleep at 4Am.) so since my schedule is that off and i decide on say 7Am every morning I risk not sleeping 3 hours prior. isn't that more important??

I should also add that, with crazy differences in wake-up times on weekends, I usually still see a clear thermal shift confirmed with OPKs and CM.

ruthy5489 · November 2009

ohhh thats why Im confused. My question yesterday was whether I should test again or wait it out. I never asked anything about temping. But..since you and the other user mentioned that I had to temp the same time I decided to ask others what they did. This original post was supposed to be more like a poll to see who temps the same time and who doesn't... and it turned into a discussion of why I didnt temp the same time. So I didnt even mean for it to be the same thing. Anyways, thats no reason for people to be rude, just because they think I am asking the same question Hmm that's why this got so out of hand, because people couldn't just answer my question instead they get on my case.

jennifer_h_rn · November 2009

I work the overnight shift (7p-7:30a), so some days I wake up at 4pm. After a night off, sometimes I wake up when my DH gets up for work, or sometimes not til 10am. My sleep schedule is way crazy.

As you can see from my chart (link in siggy), my pattern was still clear. I would say make sure you temp after at least 3hrs of sleep and worry a little less about the exact time unless your pattern becomes difficult to interpret. Good luck.

ruthy5489 · November 2009

Thats what I thought too.. that it would still be pretty accurate as long as I sleep atleast 3 hours prior to temping.. Im thinking of trying OPK's this month if I haven't gotten KU.

mrs.monica · November 2009

ruthy5489:

How does that in any way say to you that I am taking their experiences and believing its going to happen to me?? Yes, I was geting down about all the negatives and when they said they got a few negatives before a possitive it did give me more hope. I'm just trying to keep myself possitive, and happy...Im sorry you don't seem to understand the meaning of hope.

stay positive! GL!

ruthy5489 · November 2009

mrs.monica:
ruthy5489:

How does that in any way say to you that I am taking their experiences and believing its going to happen to me?? Yes, I was geting down about all the negatives and when they said they got a few negatives before a possitive it did give me more hope. I'm just trying to keep myself possitive, and happy...Im sorry you don't seem to understand the meaning of hope.

stay positive! GL!

Thanks! I am really trying..

used_tampon · November 2009

ruthy5489:
Do you temp at the same exact time every morning or does it change based on your schedule? Anyone set their alarm just to temp and go back to sleep?

Because my schedule changes day-to-day, I just temp when I wake up which is still within the same 2 hours of each morning.. but some people say you should temp the EXACT same time. Just curious to see how many people are that precise and how many don't worry about it that much.

Nah...I think you should temp whenever you want. Sometimes in the middle of the night, sometimes in the middle of dinner, sometimes when you're on your way to work. Sometimes orally, sometimes vaginally. Drink a lot on some days and not on others. Stick all of those temps in a calendar and then take them to your doc for analysis.

You know what else isn't important? Pre-natal vitamins. Take them whenever you want with no particular rhyme or reason. When you're TTC, inconsistency is the BEST!

StephanieB10 · November 2009

May be cold comfort at this point, but I'm with you. I still chart, but if I sleep in on the weekend (or forget to do it at all), I don't stress. And it's still a good tool- something that I don't think FF explains fully. I read Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, and the temp fluctuations can help your doctor diagnose fertility problems. So I figure any information I can give him would help, even if it's not perfect.

Stress, DH laptop usage, caffeine, extra weight or lack thereof, etc. can all affect fertility. I prescribe to the "do your best and let the rest go" philosophy.

And it's been awhile since I started a post, but can you delete individual posts? Anyone who complains that their free speech has been violated recognizes your governing authority over them.

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