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wtf why again did your kid just kick me?

I work in a kids er as a nurse. I just triage a super bratty 2 year old with a fever, who has prob the worst mother I've yet to see today and as I am attempting to give him Motrin, he kicks me in the stomach. I stop, go get another nurse to help my hold him down since Mom is worthless (oh and did I mention mom's stupid friend is "helping" too and by helping I mean just sitting there watching) and she just came up to the desk and asked the other nurse for the patient adovate number so she could complain about me. Seriously? Try being the parents and not letting your child call the shots. It's is not an option to take your medication as a child. I can't understand why parents won't act like parents....

Re: wtf why again did your kid just kick me?

  • Working in a school, so I see this all the time.  It's really sad how kids behave these days.  I know that sounds bah humbug of me, but it's true.  Interesting that when you work in a school, you can always pick out the students whose parents are teachers.  They're the ones (at least in my disctrict) who actually behave in class.

    I would definitely document that you got kicked in the stomach.  I think you'd be covering yourself multiple ways, legally and medically.  Don't take what the parent does as a reflection on you as a professional.

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  • Yeah, this is why I hate people. I'm a nurse too. I had a 300lbs woman punch me in the chest, scream at me in Spanish, and then try to turn me in to the nursing supervisor for assaulting her. My crime? I tried to catch her as she was falling out of bed.

    And your post further strengthens my belief that you should have to take an intellingence/common sense exam before procreating.

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  • It sucks that you got kicked.  I can say from experience (and I am a damn good Mom!), that having a sick and cranky two year old is really hard!  I can remember having to hold her down while she kicked and screamed to try and get some medicine in her.  What did you expect the Mom to do?
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  • imagelmpdjc:
    It sucks that you got kicked.  I can say from experience (and I am a damn good Mom!), that having a sick and cranky two year old is really hard!  I can remember having to hold her down while she kicked and screamed to try and get some medicine in her.  What did you expect the Mom to do?

    Um, hold her down, I think.

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  • imagesoko987:

    imagelmpdjc:
    It sucks that you got kicked.  I can say from experience (and I am a damn good Mom!), that having a sick and cranky two year old is really hard!  I can remember having to hold her down while she kicked and screamed to try and get some medicine in her.  What did you expect the Mom to do?

    Um, hold her down, I think.

    Agreed. I took my 2 year old SS to the ER this past summer when he was sick. He DID NOT want the meds, and was flailing about. I helped restrain him myself. I know he is 2, but I am not. And I'm not going to let him kick someone, sick or not. 

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  • imagesoko987:

    Yeah, this is why I hate people. I'm a nurse too. I had a 300lbs woman punch me in the chest, scream at me in Spanish, and then try to turn me in to the nursing supervisor for assaulting her. My crime? I tried to catch her as she was falling out of bed.

    And your post further strengthens my belief that you should have to take an intellingence/common sense exam before procreating.

    lol I LOVE this! hahaha Stick out tongue

  • Im sorry that you had that experience. But as a mother of a 2 year old, who 2 months ago we had to take to the ER for a 104 degree fever, I think the attitude you have about the mother is rediculous. If you wanted her to help you hold him/her, then you should have asked. I have never just stood at the dr or whatever and just watched, i always try to comfort my child and help keep her still while the drs do what they need to do.  When a child that small is sick, feels like crap, and has strange people coming at them with strange things, then yes, they do freak out. My DD kicked and screamed when trying to give her tylenol, so i had to hold her down while they gave it to her rectally, which is even worse to watch than that. Parents do not like to see their kids suffering and some deal withit better than others. So until you are in that womans position with a sick, scared kid in the ER, maybe you should have some more compassion and patience, and if not, maybe you shouldnt work with kids.
  • imageEllasmommy07:
    Im sorry that you had that experience. But as a mother of a 2 year old, who 2 months ago we had to take to the ER for a 104 degree fever, I think the attitude you have about the mother is rediculous. If you wanted her to help you hold him/her, then you should have asked. I have never just stood at the dr or whatever and just watched, i always try to comfort my child and help keep her still while the drs do what they need to do.  When a child that small is sick, feels like crap, and has strange people coming at them with strange things, then yes, they do freak out. My DD kicked and screamed when trying to give her tylenol, so i had to hold her down while they gave it to her rectally, which is even worse to watch than that. Parents do not like to see their kids suffering and some deal withit better than others. So until you are in that womans position with a sick, scared kid in the ER, maybe you should have some more compassion and patience, and if not, maybe you shouldnt work with kids.

    I agree 110% with this.  When we took my son to urgent care earlier this year the nurse kept trying to get his pulse and she couldn't b/c he kept squirming, but I was hesitant to step in b/c I didn't want to get in her way since that's her job and I figured she didn't want parents to take over. 

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  • imagesoko987:

    imagelmpdjc:
    It sucks that you got kicked.  I can say from experience (and I am a damn good Mom!), that having a sick and cranky two year old is really hard!  I can remember having to hold her down while she kicked and screamed to try and get some medicine in her.  What did you expect the Mom to do?

    Um, hold her down, I think.

    Well then she should of asked.  It's hard to know if you're "helping" or just "getting in the way" in that situation. 

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  • imagelmpdjc:
    imagesoko987:

    imagelmpdjc:
    It sucks that you got kicked.  I can say from experience (and I am a damn good Mom!), that having a sick and cranky two year old is really hard!  I can remember having to hold her down while she kicked and screamed to try and get some medicine in her.  What did you expect the Mom to do?

    Um, hold her down, I think.

    Well then she should of asked.  It's hard to know if you're "helping" or just "getting in the way" in that situation. 

    She probably didn't ask because she naturally assumed the parent would act like a parent and attempt to control their own child, or at least help if the kid freaks out. And because the mom didn't help, the nurse ended up getting kicked in the stomach. But oh, well, her fault for not asking for help, right?

    Unbelievable.

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  • imagettimmerman:
    imagelmpdjc:
    imagesoko987:

    imagelmpdjc:
    It sucks that you got kicked.  I can say from experience (and I am a damn good Mom!), that having a sick and cranky two year old is really hard!  I can remember having to hold her down while she kicked and screamed to try and get some medicine in her.  What did you expect the Mom to do?

    Um, hold her down, I think.

    Well then she should of asked.  It's hard to know if you're "helping" or just "getting in the way" in that situation. 

    She probably didn't ask because she naturally assumed the parent would act like a parent and attempt to control their own child, or at least help if the kid freaks out. And because the mom didn't help, the nurse ended up getting kicked in the stomach. But oh, well, her fault for not asking for help, right?

    Unbelievable.

     I have never not had a nurse tell me what they need me to do. I've never been to a "kids" er, but even in a normal hospitals er i have always been directed to hold her the wayws they needed her to be held, and as someone who works in a "kids" er, one would think she knows how to deal with children. And im sorry but until you are a mother and have to deal with that, you really have no clue. I was terrified for my child to have a fever as high as she had, and having someone come in who apparently has no patience is frustrating. And you can say that the mother wasnt being a parent, but even me being a parent and holding and comforting my daughter in a situation like that doesnt make it any better. Until you have to wrestle a frightened 2 year old with strangers coming at her, then you truly have no clue. The type of parent doesnt change the situation. And like the mother in the ER, I too would be pi$$ed if instead of directing me, a nurse had someone else come in and hold my child down.

  • imageEllasmommy07:
    imagettimmerman:
    imagelmpdjc:
    imagesoko987:

    imagelmpdjc:
    It sucks that you got kicked.  I can say from experience (and I am a damn good Mom!), that having a sick and cranky two year old is really hard!  I can remember having to hold her down while she kicked and screamed to try and get some medicine in her.  What did you expect the Mom to do?

    Um, hold her down, I think.

    Well then she should of asked.  It's hard to know if you're "helping" or just "getting in the way" in that situation. 

    She probably didn't ask because she naturally assumed the parent would act like a parent and attempt to control their own child, or at least help if the kid freaks out. And because the mom didn't help, the nurse ended up getting kicked in the stomach. But oh, well, her fault for not asking for help, right?

    Unbelievable.

     I have never not had a nurse tell me what they need me to do. I've never been to a "kids" er, but even in a normal hospitals er i have always been directed to hold her the wayws they needed her to be held, and as someone who works in a "kids" er, one would think she knows how to deal with children. And im sorry but until you are a mother and have to deal with that, you really have no clue. I was terrified for my child to have a fever as high as she had, and having someone come in who apparently has no patience is frustrating. And you can say that the mother wasnt being a parent, but even me being a parent and holding and comforting my daughter in a situation like that doesnt make it any better. Until you have to wrestle a frightened 2 year old with strangers coming at her, then you truly have no clue. The type of parent doesnt change the situation. And like the mother in the ER, I too would be pi$$ed if instead of directing me, a nurse had someone else come in and hold my child down.

     

    I agree again.  When we take ds in to get his shots the nurses tell us exactly how he needs to be held b/c if they didn't he would fling his arms legs all over the place.  That isn't b/c we aren't good parents, it's b/c we don't know how the he is going to react in these situations and the nurse DOES b/c she sees it several times a day.   So she tells us and we do it.  We hold his arms down and his legs down just like they ask us too. 

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  • imagettimmerman:
    imagelmpdjc:
    imagesoko987:

    imagelmpdjc:
    It sucks that you got kicked.  I can say from experience (and I am a damn good Mom!), that having a sick and cranky two year old is really hard!  I can remember having to hold her down while she kicked and screamed to try and get some medicine in her.  What did you expect the Mom to do?

    Um, hold her down, I think.

    Well then she should of asked.  It's hard to know if you're "helping" or just "getting in the way" in that situation. 

    She probably didn't ask because she naturally assumed the parent would act like a parent and attempt to control their own child, or at least help if the kid freaks out. And because the mom didn't help, the nurse ended up getting kicked in the stomach. But oh, well, her fault for not asking for help, right?

    Unbelievable.

    I didn't say that it was her fault she got kicked, now did I?  I just think as a nurse in a childs ER, she could of better handled the situation.

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  • imageEllasmommy07:
    So until you are in that womans position with a sick, scared kid in the ER, maybe you should have some more compassion and patience, and if not, maybe you shouldnt work with kids.

     Wow, what a horrible thing to say.  Nurses are spit on, punched, pooped on, swore at, and yes....occasionally kicked.  All you can do is just have to stand there and take it.  I can't think of many another careers that prepares you better for motherhood or that require SO much compassion and patience. 

    Never mind if the woman is a bad mother or not.  What kind of a human being just stands there and watches a pregnant woman get kicked in the stomach.   

  • Why is that a terrible thing to say? If she cant handle a sick child, then she shouldnt be working in a "kids" er. How is that horrible. I have worked with mentally disabled patients, and after about a week, im sorry but you learn better ways to handle certain patients, and you learn how to be cautious to protect yourself, especially while pregnant.
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    imageEllasmommy07:
    So until you are in that womans position with a sick, scared kid in the ER, maybe you should have some more compassion and patience, and if not, maybe you shouldnt work with kids.

     Wow, what a horrible thing to say.  Nurses are spit on, punched, pooped on, swore at, and yes....occasionally kicked.  All you can do is just have to stand there and take it.  I can't think of many another careers that prepares you better for motherhood or that require SO much compassion and patience. 

    Never mind if the woman is a bad mother or not.  What kind of a human being just stands there and watches a pregnant woman get kicked in the stomach.   

    she's 18 weeks pregnant, I doubt the mother even knew that she was pregnant.  

    If the nurse (the OP) didn't expect to get kicked in the stomach then I doubt the mother expected her child to kick someone in the stomach.  If I was in the situation I might not have expected that and it could have happened, but that doesn't mean I would let it happen over and over.  I can see it happening once though.  With a 2 y/o it's easy to be caught off guard especially in situations like this.  I honestly would expect someone who works in a child's ER to be more prepared for something like this.  They deal with this every day while the mom probably hasn't had a sick kid all that often.  

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  • Also, called a 2 year old sick with a fever bratty is very inapproiate. Motherhood is going to be a shock for her.
  • Also, calling a 2 year old sick with a fever bratty is very inapproiate. Motherhood is going to be a shock for her.
  • Your right..maybe she should get a sign to hang around her neck, and wrap her bump in bubble wrap. 

    I was just appaled that anyone would say that an ER nurse has no compassion.  Having done it before, there is nothing you can do to prepare for what any patient is going to throw at you. 

  • If you work in a "kids"er, you have seen kids with a fever before, and you should know what type of things to possibly expect. And being pregnant you would probably be more cautious. To sit there and call a 2 year old bratty because of the way he was behaving sick and miserable is disgusting to me. And if the mother wasnt comforting her child, you would think one who works with children everyday would try to comfort him instead of taking the attitude that you are child, and you dont get a choice in taking medicine. That child has no clue what is going on.

  • I think the responses to this post are perfect examples of the problems I see as a teacher in schools.  I honestly think an ER pediatric nurse has more of a gauge of appropriate and inappropriate behavior for a toddler than parents with experience with their own 1 or 2 children.  She sees hundreds of children a week and has a pretty good idea about how they should behave, along with their parents.  Kicking is never appropriate behavior, sick or not.

    As a teacher, I see this constantly.  Parents assume the naughty behavior of their children is appropriate for the age, when in reality, it is only normal for their child.  They do not see the behavior of children of similar age to serve as a comparison. A nurse, or a teacher, sees children across the spectrum. However, it is typical behavior of parents to blame the person in the service profession, rather than apply the blame where it belongs, with their own child and their parenting.  I do not think this nurse is lacking compassion.  I also do not think she is out of line in expecting the parents to step in.  That is part of parental responsibility.  Finally, I definitely agree that taking medication is not an option for a child.  It is the parent's responsibility to calm the child down so the nurse can do her job. 


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  • As a police officer, I have seen first hand that ER nurses and EMT's are some of the most disrespected and abused people, yet, they can't give any of it back.  At least when I am kicked, you better believe you are getting kicked back and arrested.   

    I'm not a mom yet, so I won't say what the mom should have done.  But, I can see how OP is upset that even after being kicked by the child, and still doing her job and getting the medicine down, the mom goes to complain about her. 

     I think she was just trying to vent a little bit.  No need to jump all over her.

  • Well I don't think anyone deserves to be kicked but he was 2! For those of you w/o 2 yr olds, about 99% of them kick and hit and some bite. Especially under stress. It's normal! Not norm for a 5-12yr old but very normal for a 2 yr old. I think the mother should have helped but the OP should have directed the mother and friend to help. I agree nurses get the short end a lot but I think the situation could have been handeled better and calling a 2 yr old a brat for behavior normal for a sick, stresses 2 yr old is not ok either.
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  • imagespring_time:

    I think the responses to this post are perfect examples of the problems I see as a teacher in schools.  I honestly think an ER pediatric nurse has more of a gauge of appropriate and inappropriate behavior for a toddler than parents with experience with their own 1 or 2 children.  She sees hundreds of children a week and has a pretty good idea about how they should behave, along with their parents.  Kicking is never appropriate behavior, sick or not.

    As a teacher, I see this constantly.  Parents assume the naughty behavior of their children is appropriate for the age, when in reality, it is only normal for their child.  They do not see the behavior of children of similar age to serve as a comparison. A nurse, or a teacher, sees children across the spectrum. However, it is typical behavior of parents to blame the person in the service profession, rather than apply the blame where it belongs, with their own child and their parenting.  I do not think this nurse is lacking compassion.  I also do not think she is out of line in expecting the parents to step in.  That is part of parental responsibility.  Finally, I definitely agree that taking medication is not an option for a child.  It is the parent's responsibility to calm the child down so the nurse can do her job. 

     

    I agree. I work with special needs children at a preschool. Probably some of the most difficult kids to deal with, and you definitely learn a lot about how kids in a certain age group should behave when you see so many of them a day. And you can definitely tell which parents care and which ones don't. Pretty sad, actually.

    However, I do agree that it is very difficult to hold a two year old down when they're sick. I took my niece to the ER a little while ago (she's 23 months) for a stomach virus that dehydrated her. They tried giving her one of those ice pops to settle her stomach and she kicked and screamed. They also had to try three different places to give her an IV because she just wouldn't stay still and there is only so much you can do to hold a baby down when they're that sick. BUT if the mother was doing absolutely NOTHING to help you, that's different. 

  • imagespring_time:

    I think the responses to this post are perfect examples of the problems I see as a teacher in schools.  I honestly think an ER pediatric nurse has more of a gauge of appropriate and inappropriate behavior for a toddler than parents with experience with their own 1 or 2 children.  She sees hundreds of children a week and has a pretty good idea about how they should behave, along with their parents.  Kicking is never appropriate behavior, sick or not.

    As a teacher, I see this constantly.  Parents assume the naughty behavior of their children is appropriate for the age, when in reality, it is only normal for their child.  They do not see the behavior of children of similar age to serve as a comparison. A nurse, or a teacher, sees children across the spectrum. However, it is typical behavior of parents to blame the person in the service profession, rather than apply the blame where it belongs, with their own child and their parenting.  I do not think this nurse is lacking compassion.  I also do not think she is out of line in expecting the parents to step in.  That is part of parental responsibility.  Finally, I definitely agree that taking medication is not an option for a child.  It is the parent's responsibility to calm the child down so the nurse can do her job. 

    Very well said and I completely agree.

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  • We have such a great chidren's ER where I am.  I have had to take my daughter a couple times and they are so warm and caring.  Abby had an allergic reaction to her cake on her 1st birthday, it was so scary, she was covered in hives and purple and red all over.  The nurse had to give her Benadryl, and of course it was a struggle, I held Abby, and the nurse nicely told me the best position for me to hold her in order to get the meds in.  The entire time she was kind and compassionate with my baby.  If she had an attitude that showed she thought my child was "bratty" because she was uncomfortable and sick, you bet I would have a problem with it.

    Parents can easily pick up on how you feel about their child. 

  • You ladies realise we are talking about a sick 2 year old, right?  You can't compare that to school aged childs behavior. 
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  • imagelmpdjc:
    You ladies realise we are talking about a sick 2 year old, right?  You can't compare that to school aged childs behavior. 

    Exactly. I dont think anyone said that is appropriate everyday behavior. My daughter doesnt act liek that, but when she is ill with a 104 fever and in a stressful situtation, with strangers in her face poking at her, she does. Like i said in a previous post, when you are actually the parent of a toddler who is ill, then I would love to hear about your first trip to the ER. Should be amusing.

  • If you need to be told to control your own two year old, I would hate to see you when the kid's a teenager. Should be amusing.
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  • imagespring_time:

    I think the responses to this post are perfect examples of the problems I see as a teacher in schools.  I honestly think an ER pediatric nurse has more of a gauge of appropriate and inappropriate behavior for a toddler than parents with experience with their own 1 or 2 children.  She sees hundreds of children a week and has a pretty good idea about how they should behave, along with their parents.  Kicking is never appropriate behavior, sick or not.

    As a teacher, I see this constantly.  Parents assume the naughty behavior of their children is appropriate for the age, when in reality, it is only normal for their child.  They do not see the behavior of children of similar age to serve as a comparison. A nurse, or a teacher, sees children across the spectrum. However, it is typical behavior of parents to blame the person in the service profession, rather than apply the blame where it belongs, with their own child and their parenting.  I do not think this nurse is lacking compassion.  I also do not think she is out of line in expecting the parents to step in.  That is part of parental responsibility.  Finally, I definitely agree that taking medication is not an option for a child.  It is the parent's responsibility to calm the child down so the nurse can do her job. 

     Yes X1000

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  • imageEllasmommy07:
    imagettimmerman:
    imagelmpdjc:
    imagesoko987:

    imagelmpdjc:
    It sucks that you got kicked.  I can say from experience (and I am a damn good Mom!), that having a sick and cranky two year old is really hard!  I can remember having to hold her down while she kicked and screamed to try and get some medicine in her.  What did you expect the Mom to do?

    Um, hold her down, I think.

    Well then she should of asked.  It's hard to know if you're "helping" or just "getting in the way" in that situation. 

    She probably didn't ask because she naturally assumed the parent would act like a parent and attempt to control their own child, or at least help if the kid freaks out. And because the mom didn't help, the nurse ended up getting kicked in the stomach. But oh, well, her fault for not asking for help, right?

    Unbelievable.

     I have never not had a nurse tell me what they need me to do. I've never been to a "kids" er, but even in a normal hospitals er i have always been directed to hold her the wayws they needed her to be held, and as someone who works in a "kids" er, one would think she knows how to deal with children. And im sorry but until you are a mother and have to deal with that, you really have no clue. I was terrified for my child to have a fever as high as she had, and having someone come in who apparently has no patience is frustrating. And you can say that the mother wasnt being a parent, but even me being a parent and holding and comforting my daughter in a situation like that doesnt make it any better. Until you have to wrestle a frightened 2 year old with strangers coming at her, then you truly have no clue. The type of parent doesnt change the situation. And like the mother in the ER, I too would be pi$$ed if instead of directing me, a nurse had someone else come in and hold my child down.

    this!!!

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