PSA on Bump/nest "rules"

kittylove · October 2009

https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/24023365/ShowThread.aspx#24023365

ETA: I was posting this because I know a lot of us break these rules and while I could care less I would hate for some of my favorite nesties to get banned.

My.ABC.Life · October 2009

So glad we don't have problems with this on our boards!

danandkelly · October 2009

I think it's ridiculous to say that someone can not post a link to an etsy site in a post...so for that matter can we also no post links to retail stores...or recommendations for products anymore?

How is posting a link to an etsy store any different than a link to a sweater at BR...

I think her interpretation went a little far IMO.

My.ABC.Life · October 2009

From what I see... the rule is this "No soliciting of any kind on the message boards or in the chat room -- it is neither allowed nor appreciated by the community."

I don't see any details about not being about share recommendations, etc.

If that really is the case, that's too bad. I think we all have gotten a lot of our the recommendations from (and to) people here on the Board.

KellyMRocks · October 2009

I obviously think the rules are ridiculous. I'll have my link in my siggy until I get banned or asked to remove it, I suppose.

I personally think biz links are fine, unless your sole purpose for being on the board is for business gain. I don't even reply to posts asking for photographers...so I really don't think a little link should be an issue. and i love Etsy links, I love the sharing of creativity!

danandkelly · October 2009

My.ABC.Life:

From what I see... the rule is this "No soliciting of any kind on the message boards or in the chat room -- it is neither allowed nor appreciated by the community. If you are interested in advertising opportunities, please contact salesinfo@thenest.com."

I don't see any details about not being about share recommendations, etc.

If that really is the case, that's too bad. I think we all have gotten a lot of our the recommendations from (and to) people here on the Board.

I agree, I just read the terms of use and see nothing about links to vendors.

SweetieP · October 2009

What's REALLY lame is she says that "SHE" can post her blog because it's not just a 'for sale' blog (or whatever she said) - because she writes about other things. How is that any different than mine? I guess I'll have to add even more of my own commentary? Stupid.

KellyMRocks · October 2009

SweetieP:
What's REALLY lame is she says that "SHE" can post her blog because it's not just a 'for sale' blog (or whatever she said) - because she writes about other things. How is that any different than mine? I guess I'll have to add even more of my own commentary? Stupid.

Ditto, my site is a blog site. I'll have to throw in a three line post about how brilliant my husband is so that I can skirt the rules.

SweetieP · October 2009

KellyMRocks:
I obviously think the rules are ridiculous. I'll have my link in my siggy until I get banned or asked to remove it, I suppose.
I personally think biz links are fine, unless your sole purpose for being on the board is for business gain. I don't even reply to posts asking for photographers...so I really don't think a little link should be an issue. and i love Etsy links, I love the sharing of creativity!

ditto...I try to stay out of the posts that say "recommend your invitation site" or whatever. Feels lame to say "oooh - pick me pick me pick me". My stuff isn't for everyone - if you want to look at my blog - feel free - if you want to use it for inspiration and make your own - go for it (don't steal it though) - if you want me to make you something...cool. I'll do my best.

linnychanel · October 2009

I don't really see the point of posting the rules. I have never felt like anyone on here pushes their products on us bumpies. Maybe not all the boards are as luck!

Celyn · October 2009

I think it would be impossible to police people linking to stores that are not their own. The NorCal boards have had a long history of giving our own Nesties our business -- years ago there was even a NorCal Nestie business directory for personal businesses and for general recommendations. It was an awesome resource. I think it's absurd that only the etsy vendors get crap all the time. I don't see any difference if I say that I got the cutest little hat at so-and-so's shop on etsy or if I say I got it at BRU. I go way out of my way not to mention my products at all when people ask about babywearing, even though I often respond to those posts on the AP board, and I think that most posters on this forum do the same thing.

2bearichards · October 2009

linnychanel:
I don't really see the point of posting the rules. I have never felt like anyone on her pushes their products on us bumpies. Maybe not all the boards are as luck!

This.

KaseyBrent · October 2009

I also don't get it, she says you cannot recommend someone else...BUT she has a photographer link in her siggy...isn't that a reco???

NotJustAnAuntie · October 2009

Does she work for thenest.com? I'm a little unclear on who handed her that high horse she's riding.

SweetieP · October 2009

NotJustAnAuntie:
Does she work for thenest.com? I'm a little unclear on who handed her that high horse she's riding.

hahahahaha - that's great! Neeeiiighhhhh!

StefandTodd · October 2009

SweetieP:
NotJustAnAuntie:
Does she work for thenest.com? I'm a little unclear on who handed her that high horse she's riding.
hahahahaha - that's great! Neeeiiighhhhh!

hahaha....she's the board "moderator" ...I (as I'm sure some remember) hate that entire concept. So ridiculous. They tried to give the newlywed board a babysitter once too...that was back when I was asked to remove my photo CREDIT for my wedding photo in my siggy.

But yeah, pretty silly (if you ask me) that her siggy says like Click here for my card making blog... hmm... ?!?!

ashleyhuney · October 2009

2bearichards:

linnychanel:
I don't really see the point of posting the rules. I have never felt like anyone on her pushes their products on us bumpies. Maybe not all the boards are as luck!

This.

Ditto. Even with the ETA I don't understand why this is posted to this board. I have a hard time believing that there is somebody out there policing siggys that aren't called out and we've had no reason to call that stuff out here.

And lol Lizz, seriously, her interpretation of the rules?? She must be someone super special.

MarksGrrl · October 2009

There's no board moderator here and I don't think anyone has been offended by another member's actions over here. If so, everyone knows how to report someone. I think we're fine.

Meg_Meg · October 2009

I'm not really sure why this is even being brought up? Does someone on our board have a problem with nesties also being vendors? I don't think ANY of us push our craft on others. I, for one, find having people with varying expertise to be helpful.

pink.dutch.tulips · October 2009

Meg_Meg:
I'm not really sure why this is even being brought up? Does someone on our board have a problem with nesties also being vendors? I don't think ANY of us push our craft on others. I, for one, find having people with varying expertise to be helpful.

ditto

bringing this up publically brings unnecessary attention to us here.

danandkelly · October 2009

pink.dutch.tulips:

Meg_Meg:
I'm not really sure why this is even being brought up? Does someone on our board have a problem with nesties also being vendors? I don't think ANY of us push our craft on others. I, for one, find having people with varying expertise to be helpful.

ditto

bringing this up publically brings unnecessary attention to us here.

I have to ditto this as well.

I agree that all of our vendors here do a great job of not pushing their business on anyone. AND I for one am more than happy to give my business to a nestie over any other company if I can.

kbrodie06 · October 2009

This was the same for theknot.com and thats how projectwedding.com got started. It was a big thing about 4 years ago on theknot message board. Its nuts!

alibee09 · October 2009

danandkelly:
pink.dutch.tulips:

Meg_Meg:
I'm not really sure why this is even being brought up? Does someone on our board have a problem with nesties also being vendors? I don't think ANY of us push our craft on others. I, for one, find having people with varying expertise to be helpful.

ditto

bringing this up publically brings unnecessary attention to us here.

I have to ditto this as well.

I agree that all of our vendors here do a great job of not pushing their business on anyone. AND I for one am more than happy to give my business to a nestie over any other company if I can.

I think it's great she posted this... ignorance of the law is no excuse, etc. It's better to know and disagree than to live in ignorance of the Nest's policies, no matter how ridiculous.

danandkelly · October 2009

Uh the "law" have you read the TOU?

It does not say in the TOU that vendors can not have links in siggys, nor does it say anywhere that you can't link to vendors in the TOU. It simply says no soliciting. To date I have never seen a nor cal nestie actively solicit business on the board. If anything when recos are asked for those who are in the biz decline to post.

And FTR, I don't think anyone who posted in this link was "living in ignorance".

alibee09 · October 2009

danandkelly:
Uh the "law" have you read the TOU?

It does not say in the TOU that vendors can not have links in siggys, nor does it say anywhere that you can't link to vendors in the TOU. It simply says no soliciting. To date I have never seen a nor cal nestie actively solicit business on the board. If anything when recos are asked for those who are in the biz decline to post.

And FTR, I don't think anyone who posted in this link was "living in ignorance".

Take a chill pill, ffs. I certainly didn't know that they had weird (and, imo, ridiculous) rules about who could post what sort of links/recommendations.

Also, the first sentence ("ignorance of the law") is a SAYING. I'm not being literal here.

danandkelly · October 2009

alibee09:

Take a chill pill, ffs. I certainly didn't know that they had weird (and, imo, ridiculous) rules about who could post what sort of links/recommendations.

Also, the first sentence ("ignorance of the law") is a SAYING. I'm not being literal here.

No need for a "chill pill" over here, I was just clearing things up. ie there is no "law" that prohibits the things mentioned.

And I'm familiar with the saying...I guess I just found it a bit self-righteous in this situation.

SweetieP · October 2009

alibee09:
danandkelly:
pink.dutch.tulips:

Meg_Meg:
I'm not really sure why this is even being brought up? Does someone on our board have a problem with nesties also being vendors? I don't think ANY of us push our craft on others. I, for one, find having people with varying expertise to be helpful.

ditto

bringing this up publically brings unnecessary attention to us here.

I have to ditto this as well.

I agree that all of our vendors here do a great job of not pushing their business on anyone. AND I for one am more than happy to give my business to a nestie over any other company if I can.
I think it's great she posted this... ignorance of the law is no excuse, etc. It's better to know and disagree than to live in ignorance of the Nest's policies, no matter how ridiculous.

Wow. Just wow.

alibee09 · October 2009

My point is that I'd rather have Ariel point this out than get banned because I didn't follow this (stupid on their part) rule! Who wouldn't? (besides the two people I quoted

Dragonfly_Bride · October 2009

alibee09:
My point is that I'd rather have Ariel point this out than get banned because I didn't follow this (stupid on their part) rule! Who wouldn't? (besides the two people I quoted

I think it just comes down to the culture on this particular board. We all know to fly under the radar, and the more things are pointed out & drama started the more exposed we are... we like the way things are, and even if someone is banned it doesn't mean they can't show up 3 days later with another name, and as far as I know no one locally has been banned in the 6 years I've been on the Nest/Bump.

alibee09 · October 2009

I didn't even know they had hall monitors here until this post! Which makes me O_o to an extent, seriously... this board is so tame I can't imagine such a thing would ever be needed here.

Dragonfly_Bride · October 2009

alibee09:
I didn't even know they had hall monitors here until this post! Which makes me O_o to an extent, seriously... this board is so tame I can't imagine such a thing would ever be needed here.

Exactly - we just sort of ignore everything else & enjoy the bubble! As of right now we don't have a moderator, and I'd like to keep it that way. So ixnay on the rule talk

pink.dutch.tulips · October 2009

Dragonfly_Bride:

alibee09:
My point is that I'd rather have Ariel point this out than get banned because I didn't follow this (stupid on their part) rule! Who wouldn't? (besides the two people I quoted

I think it just comes down to the culture on this particular board. We all know to fly under the radar, and the more things are pointed out & drama started the more exposed we are... we like the way things are, and even if someone is banned it doesn't mean they can't show up 3 days later with another name, and as far as I know no one locally has been banned in the 6 years I've been on the Nest/Bump.

my point exactly ! that's what bothered me the most .. this board is pretty darn good at flying UNDER the radar - we know the rules, we don't need to have them pointed out only drawing attention to us.

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