SD has a doctors apt with her pediatrician on Tuesday. I told BM today (she is supposedly attending the apt), that she needed to consider whether SD should get the flu and H1N1 vaccinations because the dr will probably mention it at her apt.
I am of the opinion that SD SHOULD get the vaccinations. The main reason is because when she is at her mother's there are three teens that live there that all go to diffrerent schools and as a result all of the kids come into contact with a HUGE number of other kids/teachers/germs etc. There has been a massive outbreak of H1N1 in the town next to ours, so many cases in fact the district is considering closing if they get many more.
I would prefer SD not getting sick especially since she is here most of the time and I do not feel comfortable with the information I am hearing about getting the H1N1 vaccination myself since tests have not been completed on pregnant women yet. I will be getting the flu vaccination however.
So, with your kids and stepkids will they be getting the flu and H1N1 vaccines?
Re: your kids/sk and the H1N1 vaccine...
I would like SD to get the vaccine but I am definitely leaving that up to BM. She is a hypocondriacte anyways so I'm sure she'll take SD to get it. (Not saying if you get the vaccine that it makes you a hypocondriacte, just speaking on past incidents by BM)
I never even get the flu shot but have been considering getting that this year at the very least.
Our BM is a hypocondriac as well. SD noticed a lump in her breast, right underneath the nipple last week while she was taking a shower. I did a LOT of research to figure out what it *could* be and made an apt with the dr the following Monday for a full physical and thought we would bring up the issue then.
According to my research it is breast buds, her symptoms match perfectly and she is at exactly the right age since she hasn't started puberty just yet. SD then told BM and I guess BM assumed we had known for weeks about it (which we didn't). She wanted us to make an apt for SD to see an OB/GYN. Instead I had made an apt with a pediatrician (which BM seems to be annoyed about she would prefer her seeing the OB/gyn) and spoke with someone who said it was most likely breast buds but BM is CONVINCED her 9 year old has breast cancer. I am all for being cautious but there needs to be some common sense and she FREAKED SD out completely.
Then again this is the same woman who tipped her head upside down and worried she had an aneurism because she could feel her head move around inside her skull when she did this.
And before I get flamed for "it could be really serious and you are taking it too much in stride" or whatever. At the age of11 I had a tumor in my leg removed and at age 19 I had 4 tumors removed from my breasts and COMPLETELY understand what it is like to be terrified and have to go through that but as my dr told me BC at such a young age (19yo) while not unheard of is just not that common, not that it can't happen but it is more likely it is something else so chances are pretty good it SD doesn't have breast cancer (not that it can't be something else serious).
Why would you be comfortable getting the regular flu vaccine and not the
H1N1?
You do realize that the flu vaccine is "new" just like the H1N1? In that, every year the flu vaccine is new. The H1N1 is no different, except that it is carrying a different strain of flu, that is all. The make-up is the same.
Please read up on the vaccine and the actual virus at the cdc's website.
I have read the cdc's website, as well as OTHER medical websites discussing the subject. The flu vaccine is the same vaccine they do every year just with 2009 viruses. The H1N1 vaccination is not the same although they are making it similarly. The CDC itself says that the H1N1 vaccination is UNTESTED on pregnant woman yet are STILL recommending it in ANY trimester.
I have also read that these companies are rushing to get this vaccination out. I find it strange that people are promoting a vaccination that hasn't been tested on a target group of people that are supposed to be the 1st in line to get it.
ETA: I am not uneducated on the subject and have done my own research.
This is the first year that I didnt get the flu shot (due to the Leukemia) and I am sicker than a dog... I feel absolutely horrible! I wish that I could have gotten the flu shot...
No advice here, just wanted to tell you that I will say a little prayer for your SD that everything turns out okay!
I think we're going to all get vaccinated. I've done a lot of reading/interviewing/brain picking and I can't at all convince myself that any risk outweighs the potential benefit.
I'm not 100% sure WHEN, I'll get vaccinated. I'd been planning to do it while pregnant, but I have seen some discussion about choosing to get vaccinated after delivery and pass antibodies through nursing. Since it was anecdotal, I need to find legitimate info.
But my kid and my husband will get shot up whenever things become available.
Please show me where it says this, because what I am seeing is this:
The 2009 H1N1 flu vaccine is being made in the same way and at the same places where the seasonal flu vaccine is made. Just like the seasonal flu vaccine is every.single.year. It is made with new strains of flu, but in the same manner as it is every other year. It is NOT a totally different vaccine.
I would love to see some of your "other" sources for this, as I find it fascinating. I also find it fascinating that anyone can read the cdc's infomration and take only what they want from it. Since when did we become a nation without experts?
If I had kids in school, daycare etc...I'd have them get the shots. I would too. But it's just DH and me and my doctor is supporting our decision not to get the flu shots for reasons we discussed in depth little over a week ago.
DH and I are healthy for the most part and rarely get any flu so we're going to take our chances and be real smart and pro-active to prevent getting it and treating it if we do.
www.thevaccinebook.com
www.fda.gov/.../biologicsbloonvaccines/vaccines/...ucm182406.pdf
In Scientific America it says regarding pregnant women "Information about the safety and effectiveness of these anti-influenza drugs is scarce. But the general consensus in now that the benefits of treatment with these drugs are likely to outweigh potential risks to the fetus" which came from a study by the CDC.
Just because people can read information from a source other than the CDC doesn't mean that they have no merrit. It is a choice, MY choice and I personally don't feel comfortable. These are experts, experts who say themselves that it isn't tested. At first the CDC was saying that the drug was fine in ANY trimester, now they are saying it should be given in the second trimester...well why? Why all of a sudden are they saying no to the first trimester? If they were wrong about that why can't they be wrong about other issues with this vaccine?
Several decades ago Thalidamide was given to pregnant women who were told it was safe to take to help with morning sickness. That medication caused severe defects not only in those unborn babies but in their baby's babies.
Why is it so hard to believe that people are concerned about something that is just now being tested? Why is that SO off the wall?
The flu shot has been throughly tested on all segments of the populations, for many years. It is retested every year when the new strains are added to the vaccine. So, no I don't understand how this is different. Same vaccine structure, new strain, just like every year.
Most experts are saying it is safe, and that it is safest to get the vaccine. So while not all agree (when do they?), it seems it would be better to get the vaccine then get the actual flu...which I am pretty sure I currently have, and I would not wish this on anyone, especially not a pg lady. As for this But the general consensus in now that the benefits of treatment with these drugs are likely to outweigh potential risks to the fetus" which came from a study by the CDC- nothing in life is 100% certain, and there is no way they can say it for fact that it is 100% better to get the vaccine than it is to get the actual virus.
That being said, what are the potential risks that people are afraid of?
I have had the flu in the past so I am well aware of what it is like. The risks are unknown, which is what people are concerned about. The studies they are doing on pregnant women while they have been started and are showing a good response so far, those studies will not be completed for 7 months according to something else I read (which is the start of the study to delivery of the baby).
If it is supposedly not a big deal then why are they doing studies to begin with? Why aren't they just saying "well it is the same as the flu shot so it is fine"?
Obviously they are doing testing for a reason, to ensure the safety and effectiveness of the drugs on a certain group. Well why shouldn't people be concerned that it isn't safe if that is exactly what they are doing the tests for, to see if it is safe? I don't see how the CDC can have it both ways. BTW, I have a friend whose father works in the upper crust of CDC, so I have nothing against the CDC.
I just think that they are in such a rush to get this vaccine out that they aren't willing to acknowledge that there could be issues. The CDC was saying to get the vaccine before anyone even knew what companies were going to end up manufacturing it and before anyone knew what process was going to be used to make the vaccine, I think that is jumping the gun a little bit.