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F/U to Obama - healthcare copay post
I had to teach a class, I am back now to defend myself...
First, to the person who wrote that those who work hard are punished- you are implying that those that make less than you (or your DH) don't work as hard. Hate to tell you- but rarely does salary = how hard you work. I am insulted- I have a master's degree, work really freakin' hard and don't make nearly as much as I should. But my salary is not a reflection of how hard I work.
Second, I work at a University and a lot of employees make less than $30,000 a year (custodians, dining services etc). Yes, they get the same health insurance as the rest of us and I am ok with that- I said that I was in the middle bracket so I pay more than they do and pick up some of the tab. I guess I just see it as my way of helping.
Finally, my husband makes good money- so we are considered well off and we pay high taxes and it is something I am ok with- part of what I need to do. Would those of you complaining like to actually make less money so someone else can help you out instead of you being the one to do the helping. Really, some of you sound selfish to me and really obnoxious with the working harder comment- that really annoyed me. My DH doesn't work any harder than some people that make a lot less.
Seriously, ask yourself which end you would really rather be on before you complain!
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Re: F/U to Obama - healthcare copay post
I agree with you 100% Salary is no reflection of how hard you work. In fact, look at all the SAHM's they don't make a dime and we all know how hard they work.
agreed.
can i get a link to your op?
Sorry, I suck at links on here- but it is on the second page now- it wasn't my post originally- it was the Is Obama the new CEO of my company (or somthing similar) post that I replied to.
https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/23262324.aspx
Hope this works...and it is the top of page 3 now.
I missed the OP but yeah, in general, I think it sounds so stupid when ppl say things like "I work hard" as an equivalent of "I make good money." One does not always automatically = the other, unfortunately.
Yes, of course many successful people are successful from lots of hard work, but there is also in many cases, family support, access, opportunity, good timing, luck and/or connections along the way. To not admit that or realize that is seemingly common, sadly.
Agreed- unfortunately, it isn't always equal and fair and some people will get luckier than others.
"I will never understand this way of thinking. So if you work hard and make more money than someone else you should be punished?"
Riiiiiiight, that's how it goes. Only people who make lots and lots of money work hard.
For those of you that missed it...she is quoting pixiedust from the op. Thank you, yes that is one of the quotes that I found really frustrating!
I don't think she said that she works harder than you...she just said you work hard....while I do agree with you that salary does not always equate to how hard you work. However, I do not agree with you that people in the same company should pay more for health insurance if they make more money. Why should they? It makes no sense.
I just want to clear up my title was a joke about the company being a democratic government not a jab at Obama's healthcare plan. It seems like no one got the joke. Also I know all to well about being laid off and not having healthcare. I took a huge paycut giant to get a job with healthcare at this company.
$300 out of no where extra a month would hurt anyone. At least in my world it would. Plus it will be more than that because the out of pocket costs are going up a ton. So I just want to clear up I never said my DH works harder than anyone elses etc. Bottom line is that this is a huge cost out of our pocket when we didn't change anything. They cut the 401k matching too but I am ok with that. I understand that is something that might save someones job etc.and I am ok with that. We have time to worry about retirement. That is why I am not complaining about that.We don't really have $300 a month out of now where next month right before Christmas to just start having them take.
I am upset that this letter came out basically saying to us hey you know what you make X amount of money and you have to pay more now because of it and these other people can get the same thing as you but they don't have to. They might make less but their spouses could make a lot more too.
Also ummmmm I am a SAHM and I am reading this boggled at the thought that as a SAHM I would think that it is not possible to work hard and not get paid. Right here that is me! I am going back to vacuuming. I think this is one of those days where I am writing things and people might not be getting it because I am not writing it well or something.
Also I am really very sorry to anyone who is laid off right now or going through hard times, that is horrible and I hope things work out for anyone in that situation. But I don't think it is fair to say I can't post about this and it is insensitive because people on here might be laid off. What can you post about then?
I understand and I appreciate what you're saying. I'm sorry you have to deal w/ this.
Another reason why reform is necessary- pretty much all of us are paying too much for too little, so hopefully that will change soon! GL.