2nd Trimester

Refusing to serve coffee to PG women?!?

I heard this on the radio this morning and was shocked!  Apparently there is a coffee chain (they didn't name names) that won't serve lattes to obviously pregnant woman.  Apparently they talked about this on The View recently too. 

A local woman went to buy one and the manager asked her if she should be drinking that since she's obviously pregnant?  She said, yes my doctor has approved this and it's my only caffeniated beverage all day.  They still didn't let her purchase one and gave her a 1/2 caff instead.

Has this happened to you?  I'd be so mad!

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Re: Refusing to serve coffee to PG women?!?

  • Whatttt I'd be pissed!!!!
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  • none of their beeswax IMO
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  • I mean I could see that happening with alcohol at a bar but coffee!?
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  • sounds fishy to me

     

    you can't legally deny a pregnant woman an alcoholic drink, so I doubt this is legal. 

  • Are tobacco companies going to stop selling to obviously pregnant women too? To me, tobacco is more harmful than a little caffine. What if she was buying it for a co-worker or friend?
  • I got a lecture at Panera the other day while getting a pepsi. That pissed me off but it wasn't a store employee at least.
  • I would go off on a rage if anyone ever did that to me!  They wouldn't know what hit them!  I think I would literally throw a fit that could cause the cops to be called.  That's not their place!
  • I would be willing to sue them if they did that to me. 
  • This hasn't happened to me but I know I would be mad. I get so tired of people asking "are you sure you shuold do/have that since you are preggers?" YES!!! and if I wanted your opinion I would ask for it!! I am not fragile.
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  • imageAnna&Matt:
    I got a lecture at Panera the other day while getting a pepsi. That pissed me off but it wasn't a store employee at least.

    Oh hell no, Anna, I wish I had been there!  B!tch, say it again, my pregnant a$$ will whoop your meddling one!  

  • Well, I'm not "obviously pregnant" so it hasn't happened to me, yet, but I would throw a fit if it did.  There's so much ignorance among the general public - even women who've been pregnant before don't know everything!  I mean, who's going to keep up with current research and recommendations unless they are an obstetrician? 

    I think that lady should teach them a lesson and ask her OB to write a letter about what is safe for a pregnant woman to drink - show them to back off of what they clearly don't understand!  How ridiculous!

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  • Strange, i had a dream about this situation last night..but i was at starbucks..i would be pissed. maybe i'd say i was just really fat or it was for my friend.
  • imagenoangel293:
    Are tobacco companies going to stop selling to obviously pregnant women too? To me, tobacco is more harmful than a little caffine. What if she was buying it for a co-worker or friend?

    This! I ran to the liquor store to buy DH some beer for his fishing trip today. I don't drink coffee all that much, but heaven forbid someone tells me know, pregnant hormonal b*tch will come raging out!

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  • FYI, I believe it's even illegal to refuse to serve a pregnant woman alcohol in a bar unless she seems obviously drunk.  It's a discriminatory practice and they can't refuse to serve anyone of legal age.

    I get upset about these things because it's like our society takes away the autonomy of women as soon as they get pregnant.  As if we are suddenly too stupid to make decisions for ourselves and our children.  (One of the reasons I hate the pregnancy brain thing, too.)

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    imageAnna&Matt:
    I got a lecture at Panera the other day while getting a pepsi. That pissed me off but it wasn't a store employee at least.

    Oh hell no, Anna, I wish I had been there!  B!tch, say it again, my pregnant a$$ will whoop your meddling one!  

    You are so funny, I've literally been laughing for 5 minutes over your response!

  • imageAmandaToo:
    I would be willing to sue them if they did that to me. 

     

    This.

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  • When I was 61/2 months pregnant,  my husband and I were in DC on a babymoon.  We went to breakfast and I ordered coffee, which I had not had since I found out I was pregnant, mainly because I had lost my taste for it.  The waitress looked at me, looked down at my stomach and said with a tone "decaf?"  I responded in a tone and said, "No. Regular."  During my pregnancy, I followed all of the suggested "rules" - no lunchmeat, no rare steak, no alcohol, etc., etc, not to mention that I took my prenatal vitamins religiously AND was giving myself daily injections of a blood thinner.  I was beyond angry.  That was 2 years ago and it STILL infuriates me.

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    FYI, I believe it's even illegal to refuse to serve a pregnant woman alcohol in a bar unless she seems obviously drunk.  It's a discriminatory practice and they can't refuse to serve anyone of legal age.

    I get upset about these things because it's like our society takes away the autonomy of women as soon as they get pregnant.  As if we are suddenly too stupid to make decisions for ourselves and our children.  (One of the reasons I hate the pregnancy brain thing, too.)

    I don't think it's illegal, actually. Most restaurants, etc have the right to refuse service to anyone. I dunno, though...I just know I've seen signs in them and as a previous bartender, my boss told me that if I didn't feel comfortable serving someone I didn't have to.

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  • imageAmandaToo:

    FYI, I believe it's even illegal to refuse to serve a pregnant woman alcohol in a bar unless she seems obviously drunk.  It's a discriminatory practice and they can't refuse to serve anyone of legal age.

    I get upset about these things because it's like our society takes away the autonomy of women as soon as they get pregnant.  As if we are suddenly too stupid to make decisions for ourselves and our children.  (One of the reasons I hate the pregnancy brain thing, too.)

    I think in wisconsin you have the right to refuse service to anyone, unless they fall under a protected class.  Which you might be able to extend to pregnant women. 

    But I totally agree that these things are ridiculous.  We still have the right to make decisions about our own bodies and our own children!

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  • I've been asked if I should "really be ordering that" at a restaurant when I ordered a seafood dish.  It was low-mercury and fully cooked, and I'm not even that obviously pregnant.  The Pregnancy Police are seriously my biggest pet peeve--it makes me want to walk around with a beer in my hand and an unlit cigarette in my mouth just to spite them. 

    On an equestrian message board that I occasionally post on, someone mentioned having an occasional doctor-approved glass of wine in their 3rd tri a couple of months ago, and it was an absolute BLOODBATH.  People jumped all over the OP saying she was already an unfit mother, was ruining her baby, etc.  The vast majority of them didn't have kids and knew nothing about pregnancy. 

  • WTF?  If this were to happen to me, I'd flip my $hit. And there's no chance I'd pay for a half caf or whatever they deemed appropriate. I'd move on to a different coffee place.
  • While I personally think this is ridiculous, I would think this falls under the "right to refuse service" category.  You know, like the "no shoes, no shirt, no service" thing. 
  • Well, I know you can't refuse to serve a pregnant woman BECAUSE she's pregnant...that I know.  Its a fine line.
  • I would lose it on them. They would regret not serving me. So rude... what do they know.
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    imageAmandaToo:

    FYI, I believe it's even illegal to refuse to serve a pregnant woman alcohol in a bar unless she seems obviously drunk.  It's a discriminatory practice and they can't refuse to serve anyone of legal age.

    I get upset about these things because it's like our society takes away the autonomy of women as soon as they get pregnant.  As if we are suddenly too stupid to make decisions for ourselves and our children.  (One of the reasons I hate the pregnancy brain thing, too.)

    I don't think it's illegal, actually. Most restaurants, etc have the right to refuse service to anyone. I dunno, though...I just know I've seen signs in them and as a previous bartender, my boss told me that if I didn't feel comfortable serving someone I didn't have to.

    At least in WA it's illegal, I've worked in many restaurants and taken the liquor board class regularly.  If I felt uncomfortable I could have someone else serve her but I couldn't refuse service.  It's only happpened occasionally.

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  • I don't disagree with you all that this is absolutely ridiculous, but it's not shocking.  They are probably trying to protect themselves from some frivolous lawsuit.  I wouldn't be shocked if I heard of a woman suing a coffee chain for serving coffee to her just before she found out she had a m/c.  I mean, just a few years back a woman sued (and won) McDonalds b/c her coffee was too hot.  I think the frivolous lawsuits and slimey lawyers are more to blame.  Just my opinion.
  • What nerve of some people.  Seriously.  I would be seriously peeved about that!  What right do they have to refuse coffee to a pregnant woman?  People need to mind their own business.
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  • Can we deny smokers the right to smoke around pg women? I have been at Starbucks before sitting outside enjoying my drink. Can we kick them out of the area no matter if it's their first cigarette of the day or if it's a public place? I am just teasing but it would be nice to turn it around on people.
  • imageGTBrideKC:
    I don't disagree with you all that this is absolutely ridiculous, but it's not shocking.  They are probably trying to protect themselves from some frivolous lawsuit.  I wouldn't be shocked if I heard of a woman suing a coffee chain for serving coffee to her just before she found out she had a m/c.  I mean, just a few years back a woman sued (and won) McDonalds b/c her coffee was too hot.  I think the frivolous lawsuits and slimey lawyers are more to blame.  Just my opinion.

    There was a post about this a couple of months ago.   I think a pregnant woman did sue a coffee shop for serving her caffiene.   Although I do think it's ridiculous, in our "sue happy" society, this coffee places are probably trying to protect their own butts.

  • Is this manager asking for an ass whoopin?
  • To openly deny a women something because she is pregnant is illegal!  It is discrimination!  Legally you can't deny a pregnant women alcohol as a server, so denying coffee is WAY out of line. 

    If a company/business wants to make pregnant women aware of the dangers or risks of digesting something, they should hand out brochures.

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  • I'd jump over the counter and lose it on them - that is SO crossing a line.. not to mention ignorant. One to two caffeinated drinks a day are fine. How dare they!
  • imageAliliv:
    There was a post about this a couple of months ago.   I think a pregnant woman did sue a coffee shop for serving her caffiene.   Although I do think it's ridiculous, in our "sue happy" society, this coffee places are probably trying to protect their own butts.
    That boggles my mind.  The only way I can see a suit like this having any merrit is if a pregnant woman always ordered decaf but found that they were substituting full caffine because they didn't feel like making decaf.
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  • It hasn't happened to me, but I would definitely cause a stink over it.  People at work bug me all the time about drinking caffeine no matter how many times I have told them and the nurse has told them (I work in a very small school) that it is perfectly fine, they feel it's the major no-no of pg and have every right to stick their two cents in.
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  • imageGTBrideKC:
    I don't disagree with you all that this is absolutely ridiculous, but it's not shocking.  They are probably trying to protect themselves from some frivolous lawsuit.  I wouldn't be shocked if I heard of a woman suing a coffee chain for serving coffee to her just before she found out she had a m/c.  I mean, just a few years back a woman sued (and won) McDonalds b/c her coffee was too hot.  I think the frivolous lawsuits and slimey lawyers are more to blame.  Just my opinion.

    Actually, the McD's lawsuit was proven to be legit and is taught in law classes as an example of such, because the coffee far exceeded the legal maximum..  Just an fyi!

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