2nd Trimester

Help me with this paternity question...

A girlfriend of mine is caught in a situation, and I keep trying to steer her in the right direction, but maybe I am not to certain.

This is the situation:

She is due about 2-3 days before me, so around December 3rd. When she conceived she was dealing with her ex boyfriend... She later, had sex with another man she was dating, without protectionIndifferent, but she said this was March 26th.... If she is due around my due date, she was ovulating between March 9th-about March 15th...So I keep telling her that the father would be her ex, because of the gap, but she is having trouble understand this...because technically, she was already pregnant when she had sex with the other man....

Is this about right?.....Confused

ugh....this is why some need to use a condom. 


 

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Re: Help me with this paternity question...

  • it depends on her cycle. 

    The only way she'll know for sure is a DNA test when the baby is born.

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  • this sounds JUST like a friend of mine. She did the SAME thing.
  • Her last period was Feb 23rd, is what she is telling me....
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  • no way to tell really. get thetest
  • I agree with needing the DNA test. If she has a normal cycle where she ovulates in the middle, then you're probably right, but I've know women who actually ovulate  very close to the beginning or end of their cycles. It just depends.
  • It sounds like that the baby is the ex's but to be sure there will need to be a paternity test when the baby is born.

    Which father believes it is their child at this moment?

    BUT.. ovulation can vary. Not every woman ovulates mid-cycle.  How long is her cycle?  When was her period due that month?    It could well be the fling's child if she ovulated late. 

  • imageMsMoseley:
    Her last period was Feb 23rd, is what she is telling me....

    doesn't matter.  Unless she was charting or was seeing an RE, there's no real way to tell when she ovulated.  She could have ovulated late.

     

  • Tell her to get out a calendar, look up her due date, and count backwards 38 weeks. That gets her to March 12th. That should be right around the time of conception. Unless she has crazy long/short cycles, that calculation should work out right. March 26th is two weeks after that, which should have been right around the time of her period. Obviously the only way to know for sure is a paternity test once the baby comes, but I'd be willing to bet it's not the March 26th guy.
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  • Yep. I was a late ovulator with the cycle that I got my BFP (apparently). No way to tell without getting a DNA test.

    And yes, you're right...ONE of the reasons women should make men wear condoms.

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  • imageamoureux:

    It sounds like that the baby is the ex's but to be sure there will need to be a paternity test when the baby is born.

    Which father believes it is their child at this moment?

    BUT.. ovulation can vary. Not every woman ovulates mid-cycle.  How long is her cycle?  When was her period due that month?    It could well be the fling's child if she ovulated late. 

    She has a normal cycle, that she knows...her missed period was March 23rd...so she was already late when she "stepped out"...and the ex is the one who thinks he is the father...I told her to get the test, but based on the dates..I would think the ex is the father...but Im not certain. 

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  • imageMrs.tlcS:

    it depends on her cycle. 

    The only way she'll know for sure is a DNA test when the baby is born.

    This.

    I cousin got her period on May 13th.  She has sex with her boyfriend unprotected on June 2nd (21 days later).  I thought this was way off - but she got pregnant anyway.  You never know - only way to find out via a DNA test.  Sorry for your girlfriend. 

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  • I found a calculator where you can put in your ovulation date. Assuming this date matched the day she had sex with the other man, her due date would be 12/17/09. There is a two week gap, but she could have been easily measuring big and actually have 12/17/09 as her EDD. It's so messy. Paternity testing would really be the only way to know for sure. My guess is that it is the (ex)BF and not this other man, but there are too many factors that could effect it one way or the other.

  • So she had unprotected sex with two men inside a few weeks' time? The only way to know for certain is to have a paternity test done after birth.  She should also check to be sure that a baby isn't the only thing she got out of these little trysts. Indifferent
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  • she'll need a DNA test.  Besides you don't know how many other men or times she had sex that she is neglecting to mention or forgetting about.  Before she gets any child support she'll need a DNA anyway.
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  • imageMrs.tlcS:

    it depends on her cycle. 

    The only way she'll know for sure is a DNA test when the baby is born.

     This.  My sister was in a similar situation.  Based on her due date, we actually thought it was her current boyfriend, but when the baby came out, it was definitely the ex's. 

  • This whole thing is a hot mess. She really needs to think before she acts..
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  • imageNicole731:
    Tell her to get out a calendar, look up her due date, and count backwards 38 weeks. That gets her to March 12th. That should be right around the time of conception. Unless she has crazy long/short cycles, that calculation should work out right. March 26th is two weeks after that, which should have been right around the time of her period. Obviously the only way to know for sure is a paternity test once the baby comes, but I'd be willing to bet it's not the March 26th guy.

    I forgot to mention she got her BFP on the 28th of March... 

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  • imageMsMoseley:

    imageNicole731:
    Tell her to get out a calendar, look up her due date, and count backwards 38 weeks. That gets her to March 12th. That should be right around the time of conception. Unless she has crazy long/short cycles, that calculation should work out right. March 26th is two weeks after that, which should have been right around the time of her period. Obviously the only way to know for sure is a paternity test once the baby comes, but I'd be willing to bet it's not the March 26th guy.

    I forgot to mention she got her BFP on the 28th of March... 

    Seriously? She thinks the bfp is from a guy she had sex with two days prior?? Unless she is omitting some details, it is not the second guys.

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  • imageNicole731:
    imageMsMoseley:

    imageNicole731:
    Tell her to get out a calendar, look up her due date, and count backwards 38 weeks. That gets her to March 12th. That should be right around the time of conception. Unless she has crazy long/short cycles, that calculation should work out right. March 26th is two weeks after that, which should have been right around the time of her period. Obviously the only way to know for sure is a paternity test once the baby comes, but I'd be willing to bet it's not the March 26th guy.

    I forgot to mention she got her BFP on the 28th of March... 

    Seriously? She thinks the bfp is from a guy she had sex with two days prior?? Unless she is omitting some details, it is not the second guys.

    Lol...this is what I said...I told her if she really isnt sure to get the test...but if what she is telling me is the truth..then is should be her exs...I said no one gets a BFP two days after the fact lol... 

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  • My conception date was March 26th and I am due on Dec 18th.
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    imageMsMoseley:

    I forgot to mention she got her BFP on the 28th of March... 

    Well, that changes everything. I was agreeing with the pp's until that. It couldn't possibly be someone she had sex with on 3/26. However, if there's any chance she's lying or 'misremembering' her dates she still might want to get a paternity test. 

  • If she had sex with a guy on March 26th there is no way she could get a BFP on March 28th and be pregnant by the guy she had sex with on the 26th.

  • imageibis:
    imageMsMoseley:

    I forgot to mention she got her BFP on the 28th of March... 

    Well, that changes everything. I was agreeing with the pp's until that. It couldn't possibly be someone she had sex with on 3/26. However, if there's any chance she's lying or 'misremembering' her dates she still might want to get a paternity test. 

    I kinda feel like she isnt telling me the whole truth, because when I was talking to her, I was thinking that there should be no question as to who the father is, going by her dates and info...but she is soooo nervous, it kind of makes me wonder if she is being real with me... 

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  • that would be right if the world were perfect and we all ovulated on day 14 of a 28 day cycle, which is what most doctors base your due date on. however, if she happened to ovulate late just that one cycle, it could be that other guy, she'll need a test when the baby is born to know for sure.
  • imageCJ2008:
    that would be right if the world were perfect and we all ovulated on day 14 of a 28 day cycle, which is what most doctors base your due date on. however, if she happened to ovulate late just that one cycle, it could be that other guy, she'll need a test when the baby is born to know for sure.

    The question is really whether her due date was simply based on the date of her last period or based upon an ultrasound that dated the pregnancy.  If it's based on her last period, then yes, its completely possible she ovulates late in her cycle and could be pregnant by the other guy.  However, if an u/s dated the pregnancy and that is how the doctor determined her due date, then she would ovulated just where you think she did and it seems like her ex would be the baby daddy.

     

     

     

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  • I ovulated on day 19 - can't really use the calendar as a way of knowing. She could have easily had sex on day 15 and have the sperm last until she ovulated. There is no way she can know who the father is unless she has a DNA test.
  • well, when did she get her BFP? If it was around the time of the unprotected sex it was the ex. If it was a week or two after that...could be the new guy or the ex.
  • imageAnna&Matt:
    well, when did she get her BFP? If it was around the time of the unprotected sex it was the ex. If it was a week or two after that...could be the new guy or the ex.

    March 28th, so two days after the fling  

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  • Has her pregnancy been dated with an u/s? wouldn't that partially answer the conception question to begin with?

    Anyways, sounds like the ex, but she should still get a test nonetheless, just in case she got the dates wrong.

  • imageMsMoseley:

    imageAnna&Matt:
    well, when did she get her BFP? If it was around the time of the unprotected sex it was the ex. If it was a week or two after that...could be the new guy or the ex.

    March 28th, so two days after the fling  

  • imageMsMoseley:

    imageAnna&Matt:
    well, when did she get her BFP? If it was around the time of the unprotected sex it was the ex. If it was a week or two after that...could be the new guy or the ex.

    March 28th, so two days after the fling  

    If this is true, then you my dear have asked a very silly question. She had sex on 3/26 and a BFP on 3/28 - it's impossible for guy #2 to be the father. You can't get a positive HPT two days after conceiving. (Unless 3/26 wasn't the 1st time she got it on with guy #2 of course)

  • Its probably the ex, but she should get the test for a) piece of mind and b) proof if she decides to seek child support.
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